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All I'm Seeing In These Replies You're Getting Is A Bunch Of Deflection From Your Original Point. Nobody
All I'm seeing in these replies you're getting is a bunch of deflection from your original point. Nobody is talking about Orochimaru, Kabuto, or the other villians in Naruto. In this post Sasuke Uchiha is the one being discussed, not the rest of them, so it makes no sense to keep playing this "but what about so and so and what they did" game.
A criminal by definition is someone who has committed an unlawful act. Terrorism is the usage of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, usually for political reasons. The fact of the matter is that Sasuke meets the criteria of both those terms. He became a criminal of Konoha when he killed their acting Hokage Danzo. He became a terrorist of Konoha(and the shinobi world) when he affiliated himself with an organization that invaded their village and attempted to abduct their jinchuuriki. He further associated himself with terrorism when he attempted to kill Konoha's current kage(and the other kages), enslave the tailed beasts, and basically use his power to force Konoha(and the rest of the world) to succumb to his vision of what the world should be with no regard to any of their opinions on this matter.
Even if these acts of terror in the end remained only attempts thanks to Naruto, that's still considered punishable. Criminal attempt is a thing that you can be charged for, especially when the attempted crimes are such high level crimes as Sasuke's one. (Seriously, try a fraction of the things Sasuke did in real life and see where that lands you. Hope you have a blonde friend in high places and an angry alien mom you partly defeated to get you absolved of all your wrongdoings.) It is for these reasons that Sasuke was imprisoned for a time by Konoha, stop acting obtuse about this.
And before someone starts writing up some reply talking about the Uchiha Massacre and Konoha's part in it, just stop right there. You can acknowledge the horrors of the Uchiha Massacre and Konoha's role in it and still condemn what Sasuke did and was planning to do. A select few members of Konoha's government being implicit in an inhumane crime does not mean that there's an anything goes rule when it comes to crimes committed towards an entire village of people. Sasuke was wronged by Konoha in his past but he was also in the wrong for what he planned to do to Konoha in his future. He can be both a victim and an oppressor, it doesn't have to be one or the other.
So with all this being said, is there anyone who can explain to me what was so awful and unforgivable about Sasuke's imprisonment? It's not like it was some Greek mythology level of eternally cruel punishment. He was imprisoned for what couldn't be more than a few months and then released to do as he pleased, with a little admonishment also given by Kakashi. He then decided to go on that redemption journey, Konoha didn't make him. I don't even see what's so bad about the filler scene added in the anime. Sasuke is a powerful shinobi with some powerful dojutsu, it's only common sense that they'd try to restrict him. And we all know that if Sasuke wanted to he could break those restrictions easily. I'm just not seeing the outrage fandom is having for what is Sasuke essentially getting a time out.
Like, my pet annoyance with fans of Naruto and more in particular fans of Sasuke, is the whole ‘he didn’t deserve to be imprisoned’ thing.
You need to understand that even though the show concentrates on this very small group of ninja there are thousands of people in the Hidden Leaf.
What Sasuke does threatens all of them, including children. Saying he doesn’t deserve to be punished despite completely planning to destroy the village at some point, killing an active hokage and attempting to keep the entire world under his control whilst aiming to kill everyone powerful enough to stop him is fucking ridiculous.
I get he has reasons. Reasons are not excuses. To an average person in that world he posed a massive fucking threat to everybody and what do the officials do to stop this powerful, fucking God-like ninja who has only one true equal? Well, kinda just hope he’s going to keep his word about changing his mind,
tldr; Sasuke is a criminal, stop letting your love of him blind you to the fact that he is very dangerous and has done things that in the real world you don’t get away with because you ‘changed your mind’.
tldr; stop treating Sasuke like he’s your ~baby~ who can do no wrong and Konoha is evil for punishing him.
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I think it's a weird combination of all the things you listed, and from my experience with SNS shippers, your posts being by default anti ss are definitely one of the reasons. SNS shippers do love Sasuke. 2/3 of their posts about Sasuke are them fangirling over him(Ironically something they claim to detest. I guess it's all in good nature when they do it, only for Sakura does it show the shallowness of her feelings). The other third are apologist essays for his attempted murder of his teamates, actual murder of those samurai, planned murder of the kages and innocent civilians, awful fathering, other wrongdoings I can't recall at the moment(but he most certainly has done), and his asshole behavior towards people.
They only trash talk Sasuke when it's in the context of him not being in a relationship with Naruto. I think the sentiment behind it is to show how bad of a character Sasuke has become once he was "forced/guilted" into a relationship with Sakura. They do the same thing with Naruto. Pre 698 Naruto is a ball of sunshine, post 698 Naruto is a scumbag. It's a part of their whole mantra that the ending of Naruto ruined the integrity and quality of the characters and story.
Personally though, I don’t get why they’re so adamant that Naruto was ruined when Ch 699&700 was released. Tobi=Obito should’ve been the alarm signal and “He was the coolest guy” was the death knell.
tbh i don’t understand sasunaru shippers’ logic. they keep liking my anti sasuke posts (the ones in which i call him every name under the sun, renounce him as a shitty father and shitty human being in general, a douchebag undeserving of redemption, undeserving of naruto and sakura’s love and devotion, undeserving of the countless second chances he’s given, the people he takes for granted, and even the ones where i claim i ship him with death), but if sasuke is half of their otp, why do they seem to hate him so much? if they agree with my interpretation that sasuke is an irredeemable piece of shit, why do they ship him with naruto?
is it because my anti sasuke posts are also anti sasusaku by proxy? so it’s a weird case of ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’? is it ‘it’s not abuse with sasunaru bc naruto is a dude/naruto can stand up to sasuke’? (which is incorrect anyway, when it comes to sasuke, naruto is as much of a wuss as sakura is, if not more. see: him getting on all fours in front of A, begging him to spare a dangerous criminal’s life just bc he and said criminal used to be best buds once upon a time. seriously, that should’ve been a sure sign that naruto would be a shit politician one day, acting on sentimentality rather than reason).
or have those yaoi goggles impaired their reading comprehension to the point where they are unable to recognize that my posts are specifically shitting on half their otp?
every attempt to write an emotionless character i've ever seen has failed if just for the fact that humans are so emotional by nature that imagining the truly "emotionless" is near impossible and they just end up writing a character who is super autistic instead