Felt Like Drawing Roose And Theon Again - Wish Wed Had Some Of Their Interactions Described During AGoT-aSoS,

Felt like drawing Roose and Theon again - wish we’d had some of their interactions described during aGoT-aSoS, since Theon reminisces on making fun of him… similar theme to one of my older pieces

I think it’s kind of interesting how they are intersecting in later books, with grrm both paralleling and opposing them

“What … what do you owe me, m'lord?” - “The north. The Starks were done and doomed the night that you took Winterfell.” - Reek III, aDwD

It all seemed so familiar, like a mummer show that he had seen before. Only the mummers had changed. Roose Bolton was playing the part that Theon had played the last time round, and the dead men were playing the parts of Aggar, Gynir Rednose, and Gelmarr the Grim. - a Ghost in Winterfell, aDwD

seeing official art of jon snow is always like. I dont know who that man is.

Hey uh, so I've been living in the messianic comuinity for all of my life, my grandfather wrote some of the most popular messianic bibles and my dad works for Netivyah which is one of the biggest messianic orginaztions in the world I think. However, I lived my whole life with messianic versions of Jewish holidays and traditions (especially cos I lived in a more Jewish part of Isreal for the last 13 years) and I do want to continue living with these holidays and traditions, since they do mean a lot to me, but from what I heard from jumblr, the messianic comuinity has been harmful to Jews. Could you (if your willing) explain to me how messianic-nes is harmfull and what steps could I take to take the messianic part out of these Jewish traditions? Thanks ^-^

If you’ve seen this statement around Jumblr, you’ve already seen this explained, so I don’t know what you’re looking for here except for someone to tell you there’s a way to do it, and I’m gonna disappoint you and tell you there’s not. Messianic “Judaism” is not Judaism, it’s xtianity with an appropriative veneer. Not only that, but many of those traditions messianics have clumsily pasted into their own religion are ahistorical; for instance, at the time of the crucifixion, the Pesach Seder we use now was not around, but messianics use it thinking it’s authentic to the 2nd temple period.

I’m not going to say messianics aren’t Jews, because unfortunately, many are. What I mean by that is that many are ethnically Jewish, and that is because messianics have specifically targeted and misled them, especially Jews who didn’t grow up with a strong Jewish education. But messianicism isn’t Judaism, and their religion is xtianity. If these ethnic Jews want to deepen their connection to Jewish rituals, and I hope they do, it is their birthright to do so, but they need to seek out actual Jews/Jewish sources to teach them. If you are in Israel, you have no shortage of opportunities to do so. I also suggest groups like Hillel for college students and Chabad for everyone, keeping in mind that Chabad is Hasidic and that’s not everyone’s speed, but as a group they are particularly dedicated to helping Jews connect with Judaism and Jewish life, and they are pretty much everywhere.

People who are not Jewish who are messianics are…not Jewish. That’s that. If you are interested in Judaism, it is possible to convert, and in the process you will learn a lot about Jewish life and what it means to be a Jew. But it’s not compatible with belief in Yoshke.

You can be xtian and celebrate xtian holidays, but there’s no way to be an xtian and celebrate Jewish holidays/rituals without being appropriative. You have to decide if you want to be a Jew or xtian. Judaism does not have any kind of belief that non-Jews have to become Jewish or that non-Jews are less moral than Jews. It’s fine to not be Jewish. Judaism is an ethnoreligion. It is a culture and ethnicity in addition to being a religion. Just like, say, a Mexican person doesn’t think everyone must/should live a culturally Mexican life, Jews don’t think non-Jews must/should become Jewish or do Jewish things. It’s simply not part of the belief system. And just like it would be ok for a non-Mexican person to participate in Mexican cultural celebrations at the invitation of actual Mexican people, it’s ok for non-Jews to take part in Jewish things they have been invited to, but it’s not ok for non-Jews to pick up random Jewish things and start doing them on their own without real Jews and for their own, different religion. Do you see that?

Appropriation is not the same as cultural sharing or exchange. Consider the examples of indigenous American practices that non-indigenous people have taken as part of their own spiritual hodgepodge. It is not JUST that people are using smudging for instance in their practices without having the cultural background to understand it. It is also: overharvesting threatened species to do so, acting as an authority on someone else’s culture, treating that culture as an exotic accessory rather than a living thing that should be respected, and so on. But most importantly, it is a group of colonisers — people whose history is of systematically trying to destroy these cultures and oppress the people in them — claiming this thing as their own. Xtianity has done this same thing to Jews. So it’s not JUST that you have no idea what you’re doing and it’s disrespectful to play dress-up with our culture. It’s that YOUR group — xtians - have a long history of trying to wipe out Judaism. Messianics for the most part aren’t even actually trying to be “more authentic;” their DELIBERATE goal is to pretend to be Jewish so they can convert Jews through trickery and deceit. They claim to be Jews and that belief in Yoshke and the whole xtian cosmology is compatible with Judaism and that’s a bald-faced lie. Some even fake credentials and backstories to pretend to be Jews just so they can proselytise to Jews under a false guise. Xtianity is fundamentally based on the idea that everyone has to become xtian and that it’s part of a “new covenant” that supersedes the covenant between Gd and the Jewish people. This is called supersessionism and you can look it up for more detailed discussions of why it’s bad and how it’s harmed Jews for centuries. This group’s goal is the destruction of our group, and that goal is no different whether it’s through conquest, genocide, segregation, or conversion. There is simply no way you can continue to practice “Jewish” things while being an xtian without being an active part of this.

I get that this is how you grew up, and that makes the choice harder, but it doesn’t change the reality that “messianicism” is fundamentally antisemitic. It’s hard to break with your family and your upbringing, but when those things are wrong, you have to choose whether you will continue to uphold those wrongs in the name of family attachment or if you are going to break the chain. If you’re in Israel, and I’m going to assume that’s true, you’ll have no shortage of Jewish friends who invite you over for Purim parties and stuff like that and that’s fine. But don’t do it yourself and don’t claim it’s part of your religion and don’t try to convince anyone else to become messianic.

I reckon this is not the answer you were looking for, and I reckon I’m not the only person you asked, and I reckon you’ve heard this all before. The only reason I’m bothering re-explaining this is because there might still be people out there who haven’t heard it and need it explained, but none of this is new information that’s never been said before. You’ve seen it on Jumblr, so you know this. I’m not trying to be cruel, but I’m not going to pat you on head and tell you it’s ok to do what you’re doing, either. If you decide to become Jewish, then I welcome you. If not, that’s fine. It’s no skin off my nose what religion you are. Go celebrate Xmas and Easter. But if you truly want to be more respectful of Judaism, then you need to stop looking for loopholes to this question and for someone to give you the official Jew Approval stamp, and you need to face the real question before you: are you going to be Jewish, or are you going to be xtian? You can’t be both.

#orion that doesnt make any fucking sense is my biggest hobby... and my greatest fear.