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I would continue to be picking out stuff about the Alex Kister situation and spreading awareness but i have been really stressed lately, and the Alex stuff just makes it harder to handle tbh

anyways the only reason donut is backpedaling and telling people to not look for the nsfw shit is because it’s extremely likely mitchie made the account.

a simple look at mitchie’s art will give away the congruent artstyles in both images. the uncensored image also showed a clear inability to draw proper male genitalia, implying that the person who drew it didn’t draw NSFW content regularly. Given that mitchie is a minor, it adds up.

people weren’t looking for the picture, they were looking for the account because it was made a couple days before any of this doc bullshit happened. I have statements from others, saying that it was made March 9th. people are trying to fact check shit because if proven true, mitchie just blew a massive hole in their defenses.

They got caught with their guard down and are backpedaling as much as possible.

While they are right to be upset that such offensive material was being spread, they only have themselves to blame, since one of their victims made it.

just by speculation, it’s possible mitchie made this to defend their point, saying that the pro-Alex side is bad and evil, when in reality they quite literally made CP of themselves. And so far, people are falling for it. Comments such as “omg this is so horrible, Alex defenders are the worst” are spreading, and it’s only enabling their bullshit.

also an interesting observation: mitchie has no images of their sona anywhere. yet this other account knew what their sona looked like, and donut CONFIRMED it was mitchie. if an account was made a week ago, how would they be able to properly draw mitchie’s sona when there are zero photos of it on their page? not to mention, mitchie’s pfp isn’t even their sona.

Legally speaking, making porn of someone without their consent is without a doubt sexual harassment, but im not sure if it’s also considered revenge porn. Given that there’s already word going around that this whole callout was a revenge porn plot, it’s not looking good for the victims.

mitchie went on to double down, saying that they contacted an organization about the art. They stated they would be taking a break until everything cleared up, and said accusations made against them would be documented.

MIND YOU, THEY DIDNT DENY SHIT.

So basically, they’re removing themselves from everything because they possibly got caught.

You’re not slick, mitcha.

A little analyzing I did during literature class. Please, if you have any info to add onto this list, LMK.

Allegations false?:

1. Major keypoints were brought out in a different setting after the document was released, attempting to defend everything in a logical manner; which seemed too specific to not be mentioned in the OG doc. For now though, the defences and explanations for any flaws were deleted by Ven.

2. Mitcha had advised someone who was pointing out flaws to harm themselves as defense.

3. The matter was never taken to the police, and instead exposed to the whole Internet in hopes that Alex Kister would lose his career. So, potential malice?

4. Ven used emotionally manipulating dialogue in the document, assumably trying to make the reader feel bad and pick sides blindly.

5. Text font was different in many screenshots,which could indicate to it being faked.

6. Apparently the picture of Alex in feminine clothing was photoshopped.

7. They're refusing to show Alexs face for some reasons, however in the past Alex hadn't had an issue with it, as far as I'm aware.

8. One of the victims apparently lied about age?

9. There are some switches of narrative and in general situation being changed.

10. The voice msg to some sounded like AI. (not sure.)

Allegations might be true?

1. Alex posted on Twitter, in a rather defensive tone about the situation and called the call out baseless.

2. Ty spoke out about it, but it mightve been blindly aswell to keep the fan base, knowing it'll get huge backlash if he didn't support victims.

3. Gabriel's VA also spoke out about it (unsure about this)

4. One of the people working on TMC weren't paid. (not exactly related but could've been a factor.

5. So many people are defending and relating, apparently.

I'll edit this later but please tell me more of what yall have to either defend or protect or deny.

This person went hard on these people whoops

!!!!!!

everyone who believes that absolute bullshit callout that publicly humiliates and outs alex kister and POSTS THEIR PRIVATE SEXUAL PHOTOS AND TEXTS WITHOUT PERMISSION needs to go to hell im so serious. literally its a bunch of fucking ADULTS making shit up about her being a "predator" to minors when the only people theyve sexually interacted with were CONSENTING ADULTS. literally all fucking transmisogyny

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mitcha, the 16 year old victim mentioned in the allegations, is currently tearing down their own credibility on twitter. From mocking and egging on the potential suicide of another user

Encouraging self harm for other users

And now drawing CP art and posting it to other victims posts

This behavior is unacceptable for anyone, but especially a victim trying to state their case and support other victims.

Comments on the posts that these drawings were on that questioned or challenged the accusations in any way were immediately removed, whereas this art was left up by the poster.

I do not support mitcha's actions and i cannot take their accusations seriously anymore. This has been an unfortunate blow to the credibility of any real victims of these accusations. Mitcha, i hope you are ashamed of yourself and your actions.

!!!!!

Analysis of the way the screenshots were made.

Btw i didnt make this

IM-FUCKING-PORTANT!!!!!

Look guys, i get that some of yall still believe in the victims and think Alex is this boogie woman that hurts kids (even tho this was proven false and confirmed by Ven themselves but whatever) , but for gods sake DONT DOXX PEOPLE

You all realize how dangerous that is? Doxxing a Trans woman and telling everyone how shes a pedo??? That shit gets people killed.

Im not american, but from what I see online, that country is a dangerous place for Trans people, and you guys seem to have no issue with sending a possible innocent woman to a possibly deadly situation.

Doxxing, death threats, none of this is even remotely justifiable or ok.

And btw, this also applies to the victims.

As much as i think Donut, Micha, Ven and DB are deplorable people for what they are doing with this situation, dont doxx or harrass them either. Be better than them. Fire with fire just creates more destruction.

I genuenly hope alex is ok and safe. Im still staying neutral, but i dont want anything bad to happen to her especially before she even give us her side

"I've also noticed that there's emotionally manipulative language used throughout the document meant to evoke a strong emotion and make the reader feel sorry for Ven." now that's the thing. Throughout reading the doc for the first time, and 2nd time, it seemed so" I felt so bad" instead of explaining what was done wrong and instead stretched out to 27 pages of almost what seemed like nonsense; allat for people to believe it. Which, successful. Now Alexs career is basically ruined! Great! /sarc

Let's talk about the doc. I'm going to share the notes I've made as I read through it. (just in case disclaimer that Alex said that he uses any pronouns so sometimes in this I refer to Alex with she/her and sometimes he/him)

Okay I'm reading the doc and the part I'm currently reading talks about Alex' gender identity and the screenshots provided are just... Alex talking about being confused about her gender identity, and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with that? This feels kinda transphobic. The perceived problem is Alex being parasocial, not Alex being trans

"Before Alex left Server B, he publicly explained that Amelia was a joke after a member expressed they were uncomfortable that Alex shared their dead name. People who were supportive of the change would feel weird about this." WHAT

I don't blame Alex for backtracking on the new name after SOMEONE SAID THAT THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT.

Like I understand that seeing your dead name can be uncomfortable but it's not like Alex wanted to upset them. Alex was (presumably) just experimenting with going by a name she liked.

Even if Alex is a bad person, can we not be transphobic against her?

So far, the way the doc is worded makes me think that stirringjuice wants people to think that Alex talking about her gender is a part of the reason why we should dislike her.

Compare "I decided to release some information into this server because I was tired of hiding everything. These were my friends as well. From the beginning, we planned to release this publicly..." to "Originally, I decided against talking about my side of the story especially when I promised to keep quiet, however, I feel like it is necessary to understand the context. I and several others have noticed this behavior pattern that Alex exhibits. This was dealt with in private many times before coming to a conclusion."

It comes off as Ven trying to make people think that the 16 year old mentioned is DB. The "this was sent to a 16-year old" is squeezed conveniently between Ven talking about DB. And then, after the doc is released and people assume (logically) that the 16 yo mentioned must be DB, Ven basically says "btw DB is an adult and I don't know why anyone would assume that they're the 16 yo mentioned".

"I do not want my name to be associated with this situation and all other names will be censored (the victims are allowed to come forward if they wish to). I understand it will be impossible to hide and that’s why, afterward, I will be leaving my accounts associated with this name" and then Ven went on to post many more messages on his Twitter and some on Tumblr (some of which he later deleted)

I've also noticed that there's emotionally manipulative language used throughout the document meant to evoke a strong emotion and make the reader feel sorry for Ven.

The annotated document I saw (a reblog of it can be found on this blog) sums everything up perfectly.

"He understands power dynamics" except for all those times Ven said that he didn't

"A quote from DB’s father, who is a lawyer consultant" it's a quote from justia dot com

Also why did Ven censor his username and profile picture in some of the screenshots, even though it's not censored in other ones? (this includes censoring his face, why would he censor Alex's face when we all know what Alex looks like?)

Please, please check out these statements and analyzment before immediately going "support victims" and being a disgusting human being.

https://twitter.com/Kirby_PPG/status/1768254346314105302/photo/1

I really dont understand all the blind support for the callout. I actually read the whole thing when it first came out and i cant believe everyone's takeaway was "ALEX IS A MONSTER" when Ven in the early (unnecessary) section was actively lying to him in screenshots, purposely misconstruing his words, trying to make calls about his mental health (it is literally no ones call on whether alex needs to take his meds), and then the weird "he doesnt respect my boundaries" while having screenshots showing there was no boundaries being made until its too late. AND THE ONE TIME A BOUNDARY WAS MADE, ALEX APOLOGISED AND TRIED TO STICK TO IT ONLY FOR VEN TO GO BACK ON IT (that being keeping a friendship after ven actively told Alex that there was no desire for one).

And the DB thing. Yikes. Like just putting it out there, Ven said in the doc that after seeing Alex exhibiting what was assumed to be "dangerous behaviour" around assumed minors in a discord that VEN HIMSELF WAS A MOD FOR, that it's "not my (ven's) responsibility". And actually reading every screenshot of what looks to be someone actually exploring his gender identity and actively being lied to about boundaries (DB saying in messages to Ven that Alex was clearly told NO vs. "omg stooooooppp 💖💖💖💖😭😭😭😭") then outing Alex?

Yeah. This whole callout seems actively malicious at times. Even if Alex does come out and says the allegations are true, that doesn't make DB and Ven innocent. Their actions are just more insidious. Especially when you remember Alex's own paranoia about his own messages being used against him (which was made out to be irrational when social media is just like that these days) actively being proven justified by Ven dropping this document after promising not too is really the icing on the cake.

The blind support for the call out is freaking insane, dude. I actually feel sick to my stomach because of how much of this will negatively affect someone whose POV we don't even know about. I mean, Alex got practically doxxed. And there is so much backlash. The whole call-out is, in my opinion, malicious. And most of the time it's pointless points aswell, just blabbering for like 10 pages to make a point seem legit.

"OMG u support Alex!! U support a pedo/groomer/whatever along the lines!"

THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY. this rant is going to be so ugly but people FUCKING DOXXXING HIM?? The document has so many shitty gaps in it. And a lot of people are pointing out it's flaws. Alex is a 20 year old mentally unstable young adult, if mentally even that. Someone who had a whole career. Only to be pushed over by someone making some allegations that might as well not be true,considering the latest edits and news.

People are fucking heartless. All this Internet drama and people believe everything they see. I'll be honest I'm petrified. I'm petrified for his health. Do people not realize how dumb it is to just immediately go "listen to victims"!!! When the victims could be lying. Just with no other side of a story, and a 27 page long document with huge gaps in it, people just love to hate. It's true that Alex was mentally ill and is. And then Ven decides to do fucking this? ADMITTING THAT THEY WANTED TO END HIS CAREER? And then mention in the document that they want no threats to him. Fuck them. And as mentioned before, Alex had a suicide scare apparently some time not a while back. And with this. What the fuck.

People love to see the downfall. Fuck those people. Actually fucking fuck those people. What the fuck is wrong with them and their logic.

This shit is horrifying. Doxxing is so so so fucking terrifying. No one knows Alexs part of the story. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY? SPEAKING FROM A STABLE MIND.

Yeah this stuff is getting ugly. The call out was legit for a bit but it's fucking insane how it's most likely not even true and Alex, almost not even mentally an adult, a 20 year old, is getting doxxed and shit while also losing his career. How fucking heartless can people be.

Ven (the author of the callout) deleted his post as of this morning. The post in question clarified some aspects of the document where Ven revealed that some of his wording was confusing and cleared up misconceptions about pedophilic or grooming claims.

One of the things that was clarified was that he and DB (the other main victim in the document) were and are both adults. I dont know why Ven took this post down, but another post that was linked on that one was also taken down, and the user who made that post had said they removed it as they were receiving threats. That post was about the transphobic comments in the document.

I dont know why all these posts were removed. If it was because of threats being made, that really sucks. But if they are clarifying information in them and supporting their claims, i wish they would have kept them up to support their arguments.

The document was also edited as of 7:30 this morning (march 17th)

It goes to say, i dont think i can put much faith into this callout anymore. The subreddit for tmc has also gone through a lot of information and do not support the callout

Nothing atm enrages me more than every single person claiming that Alex Kister is shit leaking and just talking shit about them. It's so fucking dumb, you haven't heard the fucking other side of the story, neither were any of yall intelligent enough to pick out obvious holes in the documents (as @byyliss said b4 (hope the pings alr)

Ah yes, the tmc subreddit. Yeah, no chance of bias there.

Go outside for once, I promise it’s not that bad

The tmc subreddit was on the side of the victims just like everyone else, but then when discussing the evidence they started seeing the holes in the story. Before that all the posts were about how disappointed they were with Alex.

The only bias is on Twitter that is refusing to take it into account. We have screenshots of the victims giving a lot of evidence of this all being a hoax, and yet you all refuse to believe it.

Using your brain doesn't hurt.

While I absolutely wish that the news about Alex Kister could have broke in a way that hadn't outed her, I feel like it's important to mention that the doc contains evidence of her having entered a relationship with a 17-year-old, admitted to getting off on nonsexual images of this child, and talked about desires to meet this child alone in a hotel room. It also feels important to note that several of the people coming out about Alex's behavior are themselves transfeminine, a few of which are also children.

go fuck yourself. this is a proven lie that is being spread specifically to paint alex as a pedophile.

any&all parties engaging in sexual relationships with alex were consenting adults.

[id: tweet from stirringjuice - "i wanna clear up some things. i am an adult and db is an adult. if there were people that were minors, it was clearly stated."

this is incredibly transmisogynistic. the entire document was incredibly transmisogynistic. again, if anyone would like to contact me off anon, i am perfectly willing to give an in depth explanation of this. i am not trying to obfuscate anything here.

And funny you assume I need some kind of obvious reminder. Forcing a fetish is never alr, nor did I ever justify that. The thing is ya don't know. No one but the actual victim and Alex know, so that's ironic u hopping to conclusions immediately. There's such a huge chance none of this is actually fucking true.

Friendly reminder since you clearly need it, forcing your fetish on someone without their consent is never ok. No, already being in a relationship with them isn’t consent.

Alex doesn’t think you’re hot lil bro

Bro what the fuck? When have I ever mentioned something about thinking that Alex thinking I'm hot? 💀 Did you even think once while you were writing this ass ask. And nah it ain't normal I'll tell ya that but where's the acc proof that isn't just a pity-talk for 10+ pages. Nothings actually confirmed yet, bro.

Friendly reminder since you clearly need it, forcing your fetish on someone without their consent is never ok. No, already being in a relationship with them isn’t consent.

Alex doesn’t think you’re hot lil bro

Bro what the fuck? When have I ever mentioned something about thinking that Alex thinking I'm hot? 💀 Did you even think once while you were writing this ass ask. And nah it ain't normal I'll tell ya that but where's the acc proof that isn't just a pity-talk for 10+ pages. Nothings actually confirmed yet, bro.

This whole Alex Kister allegations stuff is becoming messy. Messier than it was. The allegations that in the doc apparently were true aren't true? Huh? And now Ven is all in defensive mode. Also, why in the world would anyone just butter over it and make a fuss about it on the Internet rather than go to the freaking police if your uncle or brother whatever is a lawyer and knows about it. This whole thing is starting to get less and less more believable.

Imagine one thing. If Alex Kister was not at all the horrible things people tend to call him. Imagine how fucking much that can mess with your health. Your own FANDOM just knocks you over because some ex of yours decided to most likely overexagerrate the past relationship. Considering Alex Kisters mental health already, this is fucking horrifying. Even if he is the awful person everyone is "hoping" for him to be, apparently, then that can screw with it aswell. So much. Like, the suicide scare, some time. This won't make it any better, right? And all the "victims" knee about his mental health. And then the way to fix it is just BOOM he's a horrible person oh he's predatory!! Like holy shit. That's awful.

The docs were so long, as if it was trying to just forget the main point of it, and then the person reading tgat goes on about it and thinka "it was explained in a long text so it must be right, and SUPPORT AND BELIEVE VICTIMS". And well, if you yourself were to be in a situation of trying to bring someone down or expose someone for no named reason, and you've already fallen into this pit where most people believe you, then you'd do anything to defend it and make up logical excuses for a lot of things. But trying so so hard to defend little things and having some actually major reasoning behind it which you don't mention in the doc, is like looking for an excuse. Like the situation with the Alex Kister pfp in some screenshots being like that. Why wasn't that mentioned in the doc?

The wya I see this, is that Alex did do damage. And things weren't great, he over stepped boundaries. But to make the 'victims' support larger, they tried to escalate the situation, adding on some stories of Alex being a disturbing person. None of which could be fake, but just overexagerrated because yk, no ones gonna hear ya out if its just a small thing, right?

To everyone from Twitter saying "oh your source came from reddit? Then it can't be trusted"

Your sources came from TWITTER. The toxic hole where everything is a cancelation. It's pretty arrogant of you all to act like Reddit is somehow worse and less believable then a Google doc from Twitter. One which, btw everyone jumped in with no second thought, going around saying shit they even didn't know about.

The TMC subreddit didn't create proof or evidence of it being fake, they compiled all the info from the original doc and analyzed it, not only that but you know what helped? Juice here on tumblr proving a lot of it is possibly bullshit.

Reddit, unlike Twitter, is actually staying neutral. Analyzing evidence isn't taking a side, it's looking at things logically and actually thinking about what was said in the original doc.

You guys can't just ignore that there's a lot of fishy shit on the doc just because you have this whole narrative about supporting victims. We dont even know if those people are victims

Why would you be defending someone using parasocial relationships to gain sexual partners? Is that what you want to do or something

Nah, it's not. And once again I'm not defending. I'm just bringing out keypoints that seem strange to me and for the sake of Alex themselves if they do end up being innocent. And dude it's not confirmed. Really, just wait for both sides. There's no point to gloss over it so bad when all of this could easily be faked. Which for your brain; doesn't exactly mean that it is.

Alex Kister.

My thoughts on this entire situation might end up invalid, but it's always support victims. Controversial as it is, no, you can't always do that. I'd like to point out that I've read every document. And a lot of people just assume that it's all true because it's long and many people are coming out to speak about it. Buuuut each have a small story at the start and then the same story about the server. And in many moments, the 'victims' dont even say what was exactly said or done, just briefly mentioned it and claimed to feel u ncomfy speaking about it. But what the heck is the point then? I agree that Alex was probably really mentally ill. And most likely still is. But all the proof? It's just screenshots. Most of the ones that are from servers aren't as harsh as the DM ones. But it's easy to fake DMs isn't it? And I'll note it here again. I don't defend Alex Kister. Some screenshots have dots on Alex's profile picture. Why? And then there's story about how Alex didn't want people to see his face or anything. But as much as I'm aware, they're pretty fine with it??? Another thing I'd like to note is that he's a young adult. A really, really young adult. 20,someone who got pretty famous in a small amount of time. And probably doesn't really understand boundaries. That being said, also the mentally ill part. It's no excuse but it could be an explanation.

So in conclusion of this ramble, I really just want to see what Alex has to say. Don't want this to be another Kwite situation. I believe the explanation, maybe an apology, will be rather solid. Might not. But we'll see.

And if someone claims that I am defending him, and trying so hard to make him seem innocent. That might be it, because I'm working on a project of mine with a friend that is quite similar to TMC. And once we do ever make something bigger out of it, I am not ready for the Alex Kister 2.0 comments or something. It's also because I love the fandom and idea.

ABOUT THE ALEX KISTER SITUATION

Just found out about the situation, and this might give me hate, but I think its important to say:

LETS WAIT TO HEAR ALEX KISTER

As disgusting as the allegations are, we shouldnt turn this into another Kwite situation. People are already jumping the gun and claiming that him being a creep is the absolute truth, but we all need to wait.

I hate saying this, but this could be fake. I don't like thinking this but after so many cases of shit like this I can't help but have to doubt and wait.

If the allegations are true than I will post here and apologize for doubting the victims. As someone who suffered with stuff like that before, I hope to God that no one ever goes through something like those people did.

Anyway, I might go to bed now, I hope he responds soon so I can have the full picture

Got a friend into TMC, how we feeling guays