"OMG U Support Alex!! U Support A Pedo/groomer/whatever Along The Lines!"

"OMG u support Alex!! U support a pedo/groomer/whatever along the lines!"

THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY. this rant is going to be so ugly but people FUCKING DOXXXING HIM?? The document has so many shitty gaps in it. And a lot of people are pointing out it's flaws. Alex is a 20 year old mentally unstable young adult, if mentally even that. Someone who had a whole career. Only to be pushed over by someone making some allegations that might as well not be true,considering the latest edits and news.

People are fucking heartless. All this Internet drama and people believe everything they see. I'll be honest I'm petrified. I'm petrified for his health. Do people not realize how dumb it is to just immediately go "listen to victims"!!! When the victims could be lying. Just with no other side of a story, and a 27 page long document with huge gaps in it, people just love to hate. It's true that Alex was mentally ill and is. And then Ven decides to do fucking this? ADMITTING THAT THEY WANTED TO END HIS CAREER? And then mention in the document that they want no threats to him. Fuck them. And as mentioned before, Alex had a suicide scare apparently some time not a while back. And with this. What the fuck.

People love to see the downfall. Fuck those people. Actually fucking fuck those people. What the fuck is wrong with them and their logic.

This shit is horrifying. Doxxing is so so so fucking terrifying. No one knows Alexs part of the story. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY? SPEAKING FROM A STABLE MIND.

This person went hard on these people whoops

"I've also noticed that there's emotionally manipulative language used throughout the document meant to evoke a strong emotion and make the reader feel sorry for Ven." now that's the thing. Throughout reading the doc for the first time, and 2nd time, it seemed so" I felt so bad" instead of explaining what was done wrong and instead stretched out to 27 pages of almost what seemed like nonsense; allat for people to believe it. Which, successful. Now Alexs career is basically ruined! Great! /sarc

Let's talk about the doc. I'm going to share the notes I've made as I read through it. (just in case disclaimer that Alex said that he uses any pronouns so sometimes in this I refer to Alex with she/her and sometimes he/him)

Okay I'm reading the doc and the part I'm currently reading talks about Alex' gender identity and the screenshots provided are just... Alex talking about being confused about her gender identity, and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with that? This feels kinda transphobic. The perceived problem is Alex being parasocial, not Alex being trans

"Before Alex left Server B, he publicly explained that Amelia was a joke after a member expressed they were uncomfortable that Alex shared their dead name. People who were supportive of the change would feel weird about this." WHAT

I don't blame Alex for backtracking on the new name after SOMEONE SAID THAT THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT.

Like I understand that seeing your dead name can be uncomfortable but it's not like Alex wanted to upset them. Alex was (presumably) just experimenting with going by a name she liked.

Even if Alex is a bad person, can we not be transphobic against her?

So far, the way the doc is worded makes me think that stirringjuice wants people to think that Alex talking about her gender is a part of the reason why we should dislike her.

Compare "I decided to release some information into this server because I was tired of hiding everything. These were my friends as well. From the beginning, we planned to release this publicly..." to "Originally, I decided against talking about my side of the story especially when I promised to keep quiet, however, I feel like it is necessary to understand the context. I and several others have noticed this behavior pattern that Alex exhibits. This was dealt with in private many times before coming to a conclusion."

It comes off as Ven trying to make people think that the 16 year old mentioned is DB. The "this was sent to a 16-year old" is squeezed conveniently between Ven talking about DB. And then, after the doc is released and people assume (logically) that the 16 yo mentioned must be DB, Ven basically says "btw DB is an adult and I don't know why anyone would assume that they're the 16 yo mentioned".

"I do not want my name to be associated with this situation and all other names will be censored (the victims are allowed to come forward if they wish to). I understand it will be impossible to hide and that’s why, afterward, I will be leaving my accounts associated with this name" and then Ven went on to post many more messages on his Twitter and some on Tumblr (some of which he later deleted)

I've also noticed that there's emotionally manipulative language used throughout the document meant to evoke a strong emotion and make the reader feel sorry for Ven.

The annotated document I saw (a reblog of it can be found on this blog) sums everything up perfectly.

"He understands power dynamics" except for all those times Ven said that he didn't

"A quote from DB’s father, who is a lawyer consultant" it's a quote from justia dot com

Also why did Ven censor his username and profile picture in some of the screenshots, even though it's not censored in other ones? (this includes censoring his face, why would he censor Alex's face when we all know what Alex looks like?)

While I absolutely wish that the news about Alex Kister could have broke in a way that hadn't outed her, I feel like it's important to mention that the doc contains evidence of her having entered a relationship with a 17-year-old, admitted to getting off on nonsexual images of this child, and talked about desires to meet this child alone in a hotel room. It also feels important to note that several of the people coming out about Alex's behavior are themselves transfeminine, a few of which are also children.

go fuck yourself. this is a proven lie that is being spread specifically to paint alex as a pedophile.

any&all parties engaging in sexual relationships with alex were consenting adults.

[id: tweet from stirringjuice - "i wanna clear up some things. i am an adult and db is an adult. if there were people that were minors, it was clearly stated."

this is incredibly transmisogynistic. the entire document was incredibly transmisogynistic. again, if anyone would like to contact me off anon, i am perfectly willing to give an in depth explanation of this. i am not trying to obfuscate anything here.

ABOUT THE ALEX KISTER SITUATION

Just found out about the situation, and this might give me hate, but I think its important to say:

LETS WAIT TO HEAR ALEX KISTER

As disgusting as the allegations are, we shouldnt turn this into another Kwite situation. People are already jumping the gun and claiming that him being a creep is the absolute truth, but we all need to wait.

I hate saying this, but this could be fake. I don't like thinking this but after so many cases of shit like this I can't help but have to doubt and wait.

If the allegations are true than I will post here and apologize for doubting the victims. As someone who suffered with stuff like that before, I hope to God that no one ever goes through something like those people did.

Anyway, I might go to bed now, I hope he responds soon so I can have the full picture

Please, please check out these statements and analyzment before immediately going "support victims" and being a disgusting human being.

https://twitter.com/Kirby_PPG/status/1768254346314105302/photo/1