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Alexander Hamilton, His Name Is Alexander HamiltonThere's Not A Thing I Wouldn't Have Done To Keep Him
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Alexander Hamilton, his name is Alexander Hamilton There's not a thing I wouldn't have done to keep him safe, keep him safe
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i definitely think abigail adams took on her husband's enemies as her own, but i think it was less of reassurance and more of mutual, genuine dislike lmao. she was incredibly passionate, and held grudges longer than adams himself did. i mean she ripped into thomas jefferson like nobody else, right? she sent a consolation letter when his daughter died and still hinted at her grudge, said she was one "who once took pleasure in subscribing Herself your Friend.” and then when jefferson responded with his own grievances with adams, abigail absolutely blew up and basically said that he's not the person she thought he was, his presidency campaign was "utter abhorrence and detestation...blackest calumny and foulest falshoods".
john and abigail adams? dare i say power couple.
and i do think hamilton's charming, flirty personality + rumors + background hit a specific, puritan nerve in the adams that made their dislike even more potent. his west indian background was a major part of the criticism he faced! i read some really interesting articles about american perception and stereotyping of the west indies, which adams definitely took part in when he went on hamilton's lust and abundance of secretions lmao.
but abigail hating hamilton + jefferson reminded me of betsey never forgiving james monroe. they might've been friends if not for their husbands.
this is way too long, sorry about rambling 😭
some of my group chat's obscure and inaccurate amrev (hamilton centric) fancasts part 1
the result of five students procrastinating and commenting "hey this guy could play hamilton". not very accurate and based on vibes. we are not scouting agents for good reason.
Alexander Hamilton
We know from people's descriptions and portraits that he most likely: had very red hair, was 5 ft 7-ish, and was slender with a "fine figure". Fun fact, some historians say that people calling him 'small' was more in regards to his slimness than his height, which was more or less average at that time period. Need to find a source for that.
From paintings we do see that he had a prominent nose...and perhaps more of a pointed chin with a slim face, as a young man? It seemed to have broadened out with age. Portraits of him seem wildly inconsistent, and the one Betsey said was very like him was later in life. Damn you Charles Wilson Peale, you never got his face right! tbh I didn't see much of Hamilton's face (especially young Hamilton) in amc Turn's Sean Haggerty who had too much of a round face, and I think he was casted based off of the peale painting lmao.
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And of course, who can forget his beautiful beautiful anime blue-violet eyes. Abigail Adams saw the devil in them, Fisher Ames seems to have spent way too much time staring into them. Both accounts can be seen as complimentary.
I've yet to find an actor that really captures an older Hamilton well, so I'm not even going to go there. Honestly, i've yet to find a really spot-on young Hamilton either, so I have no fan-cast. But my friend has one she advocates for a lot:
Tom Blyth based on these specific paintings (and a de-aged one with dark hair). Her words: "he has really piercing blue eyes and we know he can pull off lighter hair from the hunger games movie! he's also very slender which would work well, even though he's pretty tall. we can do perspective work with height it's okay."
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And apparently Hamilton's son (William? it's not Philip right) looked quite a bit like him. And in the sketch below I think we can see Blyth's face there!
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Not too bad, I think. Especially since his face seems to have filled out more. Main concern is if the hypothetical project would characterize Hamilton well, and if he'd deliver that complicated energy lol. He is charismatic so a point in his favor?
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Valentijn Dijkman is another one of my friend's fancasts so I don't know much about him besides the screenshots they shared. Apparently he is a model and tiktoker, and he certainly checks the ginger + blue eyes requirements! A bit of a yassified Hamilton, I think, but some contemporaries called him almost feminine and some descriptions of him are wild so that might be okay.
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Elizabeth Hamilton
Now, we know that Betsey was very petite and had lovely dark curls and eyes that Hamilton and even Tilghman, I believe, commented on. It seems like she had a slim face and a strong T-zone. Even in the portraits we see her dark eyes. Portraits of her when she was younger:
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My personal fav fan cast is actually Meg Tilly, specifically Meg Tilly in Valmont 1983. She has the dark hair and dark eyes and her facial structure itself is also similar enough to me.
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There's also something in her performance here that would serve well for Elizabeth - a sweetness and patient quality plus a hidden playful streak.
John Laurens
We are all stumped for him lmao. We don't have a lot of paintings of him and the main one is a Charles Peale and I don't trust him 100%. We do know he was most likely blonde, taller than Hamilton, and was very handsome.
Coward's way out. Seth Numrich is a popular one and I wouldn't be angry about it!
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George Washington
It ain't accurate but I loved Ian Kahn's Washington so much that I don't care. He's way too hot to be Washington but let's just pretend it's that hero-worship coming through.
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And to round it all out, Turn Lafayette was also suprisingly accurate in face shape I think. You can see we ran out of steam at the end.
is ides of march airborne? because my friend who's not into hamilton or roman history, merely suffered through hours of me rambling, sent me this text:
you've corrupted me by osmosis because i just got a crazy idea. if caesar's assassination was to happen in the amrev world, how would it go? caesar's obvious. it has to be george washington, beloved general of the people. washington if he got corrupted by power and decided "fuck the continental congress, they didn't do shit for us during the war, i'm taking charge of this town."
then who has to be brutus? not jefferson or madison, that's too predictable. they would be screaming crying from the start. it has to be hamilton. someone who wants a strong executive power, even petitioned for that during the convention - someone who washington thinks would totally understand, since he's been there during the war. so he's quietly by washington's side and then BOOM he deals the final blow.
where did this come from?? at first it seemed implausible but now i'm like...wtf 😭 the angst opportunity here?
if any fic writers see this then boy do i have the story for you-
do y'all ever think about how abigail adams was a pioneer and said hamilton had slutty eyes 200 years before the rest of humanity caught up?
Context:
"O I have read his Heart in his wicked Eyes many a time. The very devil is in them. They are laciviousness itself, or I have no skill in Physiognomy."
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/04-11-02-0271
screaminggg i was rereading the fisher ames quote on hamilton's eyes and i forgot that it was basically him going
"some dumbass said hamilton's eyes were gray when they were azure. unforgiveable. the most beautiful eyes god has ever gifted to humanity and you're talking about gray?"
I'm not joking, here's the quote from the New York Mirror:
The same writer remarks that General Hamilton’s eyes were grey. This is a mistake. They were of a deep azure, eminently beautiful, without the slightest trace of hardness or severity, and beamed with higher expressions of intelligence and discernment than any others I saw oscillate in the “human face divine.”
"This is a mistake." with the hard stop is killing me for some reason.
Link
hamilton's eyes according to fisher ames and horny contemporaries
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