The Issue With Overhaul Is What He Did To Eri. No Amount Of Sob Story Fixes That

The issue with overhaul is what he did to Eri. No amount of sob story fixes that

Of course nothing fixes what he did, but nothing will fix what any of the villains do. Yet, Shigaraki, Toga and Dabi are seemingly being set up to be saved, and the manga going toward a 'everyone deserves to be saved' message. If that's the case Overhaul should be saved too, and it's kind of bizarre that Hori ignored him, despite him being a really good first candidate for a villain being saved.

And sure, what he did to Eri was unforgivable, and she is under no obligation to forgive him, neither is Izuku, but at this point it's almost cruel to not help him. Unlike Shigaraki and Pals, Overhaul is defenseless. He is a danger to no one, and can barely function. He is a broken man, who just wants to fix his dad.

There are logical reasons why Izuku or any of the Heroes continue to have giant, violent fights with the LoV, particularly Shigaraki. I can't fault Star for trying to kill Shigaraki, or not trying to reach out to a person who has not just leveled a country and is trying to rule the world, but is also actively trying (and succeeded) to kill her and steal her power. Despite what the stories themes are, I don't think it reflects badly on someone to defend not just themselves but billions of people from a really terrible fate.

But that's not the situation with Overhaul. Yes, he hurt Eri, but he's not doing it now, and physically and mentally can't harm anyone. Continuing to deny him basic human decency and lock him back up in prison is kind of terrible. I mean, I was floored that Izuku didn't even seem shocked by Overhaul's state. This is the guy who turned himself into a huge ass monster to kill him, and now he can barely hold a conversation because he's been so fucked up.

I just don't understand how Izuku can see a small child in Shigaraki, who is actively trying to kill him and everyone he loves and decide to save him, but not look at a disabled man that is mentally not all there anymore and not feel anything. If the point of this manga is that villains are people, and that Heroes save everyone, regardless of what they've done, Overhaul should not only count, he should be a wake up call for Izuku.

And it's not like he hasn't forgiven abusers before. I mean he defended Enji's right to change and be a better person to Dabi--the kid Enji neglected until he set himself on fire. How is Overhaul somehow not deserving of the same chance?

If Shigaraki and Co. get to be happy after all the horrible things they've done, why is Overhaul excluded? Especially when he has a similarly tragic past and a super tragic present?

Sob stories can't be a factor when it comes to someone actively trying to hurt you or someone else, but that's no longer the case with Overhaul. Helping him and treating him with basic human dignity is just the right thing to do. Letting him suffer doesn't fix what he did to Eri anymore then treating him humanly does.

I'm not saying Izuku should be his best friend, all I want is for him to see Overhaul's humanity like he did Shigaraki's--because saying everyone deserves to be saved is a far better message then saying only a select few deserve to be saved.

Dabi: i’m gonna need a human skull and I can't have you ask any questions why.

Chisaki: only if you also don't ask why

Chisaki: *pulls out 7 pristine human skulls* take your pick.

Dabi:

Chisaki:

Dabi: this one looks fine

Finally you understand why the villains redemption arcs feel unearned.

Please don’t insult me. I’ve understood it for a looonngggg time. It’s why I’ve always hated the character of Izuku Midoriya; it’s why I’ve ranted about Heroes again and again. I’ve never understood the decision to make Deku a foil to Shigaraki (2019); he has never been the kind and ‘desire to save that surpasses all common understanding’ that the manga liked to talk about (2019). It had never been acknowledge as a flaw and never addressed or developed. He’s barely thought about the ‘whys’ of saving a Villains as a Hero and when he does, it’s a forced psychic connection (2021). The story doesn’t work because Deku hasn’t put any single consideration into the flaws of Hero Society that would allow him to understand the Villains as the products of this society and it’s his duty as a government-sponsored law enforcer to give a fuck (2021). I’ve complained about the kids too, because all of them are the same (2022).

From a thematic perspective, the Heroes have utterly failed. They wanna save the Villains because the plot requires them too, not because they worked hard to come to this decision. I admit I’ve been solely focusing on that and not the character-centered aspect of the characters meditating this, in which it’s also lacking because, once again, the plot requires them to suddenly develop an awareness to move the plot along and not because of any internal journey. But that ties into the former, because they should’ve incorporated both of these elements into the one conviction to save.

It’s not that the Villains haven’t demonstrated enough sympathy to be deemed ‘worthy of being saved’. It’s that they should be helped even if someone believes they’re undeserving - and the story needed to be more convincing of this when it resolved to have Deku save Shigaraki.

The Villains have earned their role in the story. The heroes? not so much. I’ve held out for a long time to believe that Hero Society should consider Villains loathsome - but when we’ve got Tartarus guards calling Villains ‘beasts in human skin’, it really shows the gaping crack they’ve contributed to create the conditions for Villains to be made.

It’s a tough sell to readers that Heroes should care about the Villains, I get that; but that is what the story should’ve achieved in order to match it’s message and themes.

“Finally”? I’ve understood it in the meta, story-efficiency sense since before Deku even had he’s first thought of “Gee, Shigaraki looked like he needed saving :( Why did I never consider that he had once been a child who probably went through hell to develop such despair.” I foresaw this outcome, and I still resent it. If you’ve bothered to exert even an once of reading comprehension when reading my posts, you would’ve realized. ‘Finally’. Yes, indeed, I see that so far we’ve been forced to accept protagonist-centered morality and even then it was unconvincing.

Warning: Leave my blog if you’re an anti.

The next bitch to say Overhaul purposefully misgendered Magne (a trans woman whom he didn’t know was trans and also was trying to murder him) is gonna get blocked. I cannot stand such ignorant behavior and if you spread lies like that then you cannot enjoy any part of my blog. None of my posts are for your consumption. No memes, no writing, no art, no nothing.

Because people, (yes, criminals and villains and gang members are humans) make mistakes, and Magne is a very masculine presenting woman. She’s comfortable with her body, and will clarify to people she likes to call her Big Sis Magne. She didn’t like Overhaul, on a personal level she hated him because he was, by monologuing, challenging what her friend had said about her (being brave and strong enough to actually be ok with herself and her job) and because of that, she felt the need to defend herself. She was fairly confident too, her talk with her friend motivated her to act without thinking, so she did, not telling her pronouns or her name before attacking.

So, seriously, if you think Overhaul purposefully misgendered Magne, fuck off my blog. And also, Overhaul was indeed raised in a gang, making his awareness of such things as being transgender, very limited.

I was raised in a neighborhood with racists and criminals and gangs, it’s taken me 18 years of my life to actually be knowledgeable about trans people, because I was raised where no one was trans, and anyone who was was most likely shot. There’s still trans people being shot in my old neighborhood. (Thanks Dallas) It wasn’t until I met someone and started to date them, and then they transitioned during our relationship, that i was able to learn about trans people and all that that comes with it. I’m still not the best, but I had to learn from a personal experience about trans people and the culture surrounding them. (And also I learned not to be a racist around 10 so that also took a while)

Chisaki didn’t get that chance, and while you cant simply say he’s blameless in the matter, you also must realize that Overhaul is corrected, and Magne rests in peace with her pronouns in place and Overhaul taking blame. (He kept the scar he gave her, that scar is a major reason why his hairline is so fucked in the anime, he kept it despite being able to fix it, because he wanted to take fault for what he did wrong, it’s what you might call ‘the Yakuza way of admitting fault’)

Y'all can’t forget that villains are capable of making mistakes, have I accidentally misgendered someone after they tried to murder me and I killed them in self-defense? No. Obviously not. None of us have been through that.

I have accidentally misgendered people though, from a random woman at Walmart whom I asked 'Sir, can you please get that down for me?’ since they appeared tall and I was very short, amd she turned around and asked me to call her 'ma'am’ before grabbing my cereal and giving it to her. I did indeed say 'thank you ma'am’ and go back to shopping. Another time I accidentally misgendered a young guy, who, because of his skirt and makeup, I thought was a girl, but when I attempted to talk to him, he notified me of his preferred pronouns, and I continued talking to him using he/him pronouns. I still talk to him, and I’m over the phase of accidentally using the wrong pronouns.

Do i deserve to die because society has taught me that masculine = male and feminine = female? Do i deserve to be hated on because I addressed a person as the wrong pronouns before they could tell me of their preferred ones?

If you have common sense, the answer to those two questions is obviously no.

So, stop trying to make Overhaul some sort of transphobic villain, because even though he is indeed a villain, he isn’t transphobic. Quit telling people to kill themselves over liking Overhaul, quit being actual fucking criminals on the internet, because if that person does indeed kill themselves, guess where you’re going? Jail. You’re going to be the very thing you hate the most: a villain.

Anyways, please feel free to block me now or I will find you and block you myself! I’ll be going though tags and selecting random tumblrs to check for suspicious posts that try to spread misinformation about Overhaul and Chisaki, plus I’ll just check the top of like every Tumblr that follows me because usually antis put that they hate overhaul right on top. I seriously cannot stand Antis, so even if you’re an anti on my blog that just likes my non-Overhaul stuff, get off. I’ve been mostly accepting of everyone as long as they don’t start drama but with the new season coming soonish, it’s better i make this blog as safe as possible sooner rather than later.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and for the people who are cool: I’ll see you after this mini-purge with new content. (And also maybe a master list of all my Overhaul analyzation stuff)

People: Overhaul misgendered Magne on purpose!!!

Magne upon meeting Overhaul and not even telling him her pronouns before assaulting him:

(SHE LITERALLY TRIES TO MURDER HIM BUT GO OFF I GUESS)

(also his glove is oddly big for some reason just look lmao)

He doesn’t even misgender her but once, and he is immediately told of her preferred pronouns by Twice afterwards. I’d also like to point out that even Horikoshi felt the need to point out that he took responsibility for her death by keeping the scar that she gave him when she tried to kill him to admit the fault to himself for it.

I’d also like to add that Magne’s death is pretty sad, but fitting. She just reunited with her friend and was full of new boldness because of it. She had found a place to fit in and where she could stay, and so she acted without even thinking. She was aiming to seriously hurt Overhaul, maybe even kill him.

(look at Overhauls fucking feet lmao)

And now notice that he’s taking off his right glove in this top right panel:

One touch. That’s all it took. And that not even his full hand. Looks like two fingers at most. And at least? Just his one index finger. That’s all it took to cause this:

And Overhaul is correct to say this afterwards:

Because Magne is the one to attack him first, he didn’t actively provoke her, she just took his mini monologue to heart because of the conversation with her friend, she wanted to stay as ‘unchained’ as the person who her friend said she was. So her new confidence due to talking to her friend made her act up to defend the league with everything she had.

And she paid with her life. She didn’t think he’d be able to best her that easily, and she rushed in without even knowing about his quirk or anything, no one knew she was going to either, the decision Magne made was spur of the moment, and no one could’ve stopped it.

(and yes I’ve checked, no one mentioned that Magne was female until Twice did back at the Yakuza base, that is literally the only time gender is brought up at all during this time)

So basically, fucking read the manga. Stop assuming Overhaul is some sort of anti-trans bitch just because he misgendered Magne one (1) time.

I’ve accidentally misgendered people and I love when they tell that oh shit! You’ve made an oopsie doopsie mistake! You fuckwad Calamity my preferred pronouns is (insert pronoun here) and I’m “like oh shit! I’m so fucking sorry I’ll never do it again!” And then we continue our conversation with me using their correct pronoun and that’s that!

You cannot blame Overhaul for assuming Magne was a 'him’ because Magne does have a stereotypical male figure, and this man was raised in a gang, so honestly he may not be all that aware of people out there who are trans or the such, he just saw a masculine figure attack him, so he (rightfully) assumed that a man had attacked him. He was corrected, and tge subject is never brought up again, happy?

Also, guess what? Overhaul never talks about Magne and her gender is never brought up again, why? Because she’s dead. Y'all she’s dead. What more can be done? I’m sorry folks but she’s gone. RIP my girl Magne, next episode that comes out next year is gonna be her death episode. Cheers.

Thanks for coming to my Magne talk, now stay comfy.

Kurono: saw you hanging out with nemoto the other day

Chisaki: hari it's not what you think

Kurono, pulling out a gun: I WON'T HESITATE BITCH