Ninjago, The Realm Where Anything Is Possible And Potential Is Limitless, Where Destiny Is Defied

Ninjago, the realm where anything is possible and potential is limitless, where destiny is defied

And the Cloud Kingdom, the realm where everything is pre-written and narrative is limited, where destiny is defined

Heyyyyy. I have a Ninjago theoryyyyy.

So, I'm pretty sure it's said/implied in Season 14 that FSM didn't create the realm of Ninjago, but rather he showed up and then created the continents of Ninjago and the Dark Island, which eventually split to seal away the Overlord.

Now, we also know from Season 6 that sister realms exist, because the Cursed Realm and Djinjago are sister realms. I read somewhere that people think these two have no similarities, but that conversation will be shelved for now.

I think Cloud Kingdom and Ninjago are sister realms.

Why do I think that? First off, the only destinies we've seen Cloud Kingdom work on so far has been people in Ninjago or the Cloud Kingdom. Not saying that it isn't possible that they write destinies for other realms, just thst we haven't seen it yet.

Now, remember that conversation we shelved? Yeah, my cat knocked it off the shelf and splayed it out on the table, so now let's talk about the "relations" (?) between the Cursed Realm and Djinjago, and how that can sort of apply to Cloud Kingdom and Ninjago.

First off, let's think about what the Cursed Realm and Djinjago literally are. The Cursed Realm is the place where you get sent to when you've done many horrible things in your life, and get placed into what I assume is a brutal, choiceless dictatorship, judging by the cages and chains we see. Djinjago is a land filled with djin's, people similar to genies that can grant three wishes for you.

The Cursed Realm strips you of your choices, while Djinjago essentially makes your choices limitless (within the three wish parameters, of course). Their inhabitants (from what we've seen from Seasons 5 & 6) are very cruel and manipulative. They have strong similarities and opposites.

So, how does this apply to Ninjago and Cloud Kingdom? First off, Ninjago and Djinjago rhyme, and Cloud Kingdom and the Cursed Realm are two words, thee first word starting with a "C" and the second word being some form of big location. Second, Ninjago was originally a realm completely covered by water, and Cloud Kingdom is literally a kingdom in the clouds! What's more opposite than the sky and the sea??

Speaking of the sky and the sea, the two elements the FSM never mastered were wind and water. Wind being sky aka Cloud Kingdom and being very tied into destiny (cough cough Morro who literally rewrote destiny and Euphrasia who is a destiny writer cough cough), and water being sea aka Ninjago. Yeah, Wojira basically controlled both, but she's a serpent that has dragonlike wings.

My conclusion? Cloud Kingdom and Ninjago are sister realms, because I've found evidence that supports my theory and none that disproves it.

Sorry for any typos, I am eepy.

@ninjago-events happy holidays!!! I hope you have a great day and an amazing new year :)

OOOOOO I love your thought process so much (Cole & theatre works SO WELL- Apollo could work too because song and dance, and Lloyd as Apollo fits super well too)

In the version I've got with @genderfluidkai, we've been playing around with-

Hephaestus Kai and Poseidon Nya (with the same mortal parent) who got locked in the Lotus Casino for a bit

Automaton Zane built by Daedalus/Dr. J, blessed by Boreas (Greek god of the North Wind)

We thought about Gaia or Demeter for Cole, but settled on the Earthshaker epithet of Neptune (yeah, Cole's a Roman demigod everyone mistakes for a Greek and takes to Camp Halfblood!)

Same with debating Jay for Zeus, Hephaestus, or Hermes, but we decided that he's actually a child of Thor that everyone mistakes for a Zeus kid (he and Cole get brought to CHB after outrunning a norse lindwyrm and a Strix- Cole football-tossed Jay through the camp barrier)

And for Lloyd- or at least young S1 Lloyd- we thought Dionysus because chaos and gremlin energy while still having life (and also Mr. D being a very tired Garmadon who only has a soft spot for his son was just too funny)

Oh, and Morro's an eidolon (son of Notus) who was friends with Kai and Nya in life before they got stuck in the casino and he died via monster attack

[[Bonus movie!Dorksquad because we merged the show and movieverse for this AU-]]

Kai = Venus (roman Aphrodite)

Nya = Victoria (roman Nike)

Zane = Norse Frost Giant in disguise

Cole = Apollo (roman)

Jay = Jupiter (roman Zeus) and a praetor (we gave him SO MUCH ANGST lol)

Lloyd = Pluto (roman Hades)- Morro hangs around him because Green Cousins go brrrr (in this AU, the show and movie Lloyds are cousins - and fun fact, the two Jays are half-brothers through Cliff on their mortal sides)

Have you ever read any of the Percy Jackson books or the like? If so-

Any thoughts on a Ninjago Demigod AU?

OHHHH DUDE I LOVE PERCY JACKSON I GREW UP WITH IT!

Man a demigod AU…….. that’d be so fascinating omg

My first thought is Kai and Nya being children of Hephaestus. The god of blacksmithing and fire? Perfect for Kai. Craftsman, metalwork, so Nya. I considered Nya being a child of Poseiden but I couldn’t bear to separate her from Kai GDKSHDK

Jay is VERY obvious. Child of Zeus, he hates Zeus tho cuz he sucks so he spends all his time crafting with the Hephaestus cabin kids instead

Zane would be an automaton I feel, perhaps one given life by one of the gods? Maybe Athena?

Ngl I had a hard time placing Cole. The big earth deity that sticks out to me is Gaia, but she’s a Titan and I’m trying to stick with gods. I ended up going with Dionysus, his godly parent being the god of theater just hit to me

With Lloyd I’d go with a child of Apollo. Prophecy. Healing. Apollo is practically the sun itself, the thing that gives Life to everything on earth. Idk it feels very Lloyd to me

The Lego Ninjago Movie but it’s a D:BH AU

@finn-m-corvex ask and I shall ramble :D

So basically— the Ninjago movieverse is styled like the world of Detroit:Become Human. Dr. Julien (who I hc in the m!verse is actually a good dad to his sons) builds Zane and Echo as the first sentient androids and takes great care of them— until his old coworker turns on him. This coworker, Jacob Harvey (nicknamed “The Mechanic”) captures Zane and wipes his memories while Dr. J and Echo manage to escape. Now armed with the plans to make nindroids, The Mechanic builds Cyberlife and starts his nindroid-selling empire.

He also has Cyrus captured to make more plans for him, leaving him with two assistant nindroids (Pixal “Pel” and Sentry, who obvious Cyrus goes “my kids now” and helps become deviant)

Zane was the original deviant in the sense that he was the original nindroid built to be sentiment and free (aka he didn’t need to be deviant), but after getting semi-reset he forgets and will need to become deviant to regain that ability

Now moving onto the others—

Lloyd is human (well, maybe still part oni-dragon because this IS Ninjago— the dragon is from his mom’s side, btw) and lives with Koko. Nya is his semi-adopted sister (Koko helps caretake for Maya and Ray while they travel on business trips).

Nya’s younger twin brother, Kai, is a nindroid (one of the “kid” models who’s specialty is “aging with human kids as a sibling so they don’t get lonely”). He originally does the chores at home because he’s expected to, but Nya and Lloyd help him become deviant because he’s scared he’ll get replaced if he doesn’t do the chores right. Kai’s the closest equivalent to “Kara’s story”, though less extreme, where Nya (who might secretly be a nindroid too, I’m not sure) runs away with him and Lloyd because a civilian finds out Kai’s deviant during the whole deviant situation and he becomes wanted.

(Side note— along with Kai came a 2-for-1 of the same model, a faulty nindroid names Kaigami who Koko took in for a while— this is the equivalent of movie!Bizarro Kai and later becomes the adopted sibling of movie!Cryptor)

Speaking of movie!Cryptor (or Zero, as I call him), he and Zane are the equivalent of “Connor’s story” where Zane needs to learn how to be deviant (again) while Zero is an incredible efficient deviant hunting nindroid (except, plot twist, he’s actually deviant and has been helping deviants escape for years by pretending to kill them). He was built by the Mechanic and he wants to take down his creator who sees him as nothing more than just a machine.

Rest of the Dorksquad time— Cole is human, though more of a cyborg after an accident (he’s kind of the ‘Cole Anderson’ equivalent, except he lives), and he stumbles upon Jericho by accident and befriends the nindroids there. He brings supplies from outside and updates them on news, and sometimes he DJs a bit for moral.

And Jay is the “Markus” equivalent. He’s an advanced prototype model that was gifted to Cliff Whoredon Gordon and worked for him for a little bit until he stumbled upon a meeting between Cliff and a mafia leader (named Master Chen). Cliff had him thrown to the junkyard in very rough shape where he managed to patch himself up with spare parts and was found and adopted by the young couple (Ed & Edna) running said junkyard. He then meets the rest of the squad and sorta accidentally becomes one of the leaders of the nindroid revolution as part of the “Secret Ninjaforce”.

Bonus— Chen (the Cheerleader) is also a nindroid who eventually gets kicked out by his human family, the Ambers (including movie!Skylor, who is an evil girlboss, and her dads, Master Chen and Clouse) and finds his way to Jericho as well

And yeah that’s the main basics, not too much else planned out yes (it was originally a SPBNR AU too, so show!Kai and show!Zane might show up, much to the latters bewilderment at how there are more nindroids but they are treated worse, and sometimes other show!nindroids make an appearance)

What do y’all think?

Nya stands in the centre of the warehouse, watching with the sort of amused horror one would get watching a firework spiral toward a bag of marshmallows (that had been quite the mess Wu had forced them to clean up). Around her, her friends and brother struggle with their suddenly swapped powers.

Jesse stands next to her, his expression leaning more toward the horror side. “What even happened?”

Nya pop a bubblegum bubble she’s been chewing to stay calm. “Garmadon, most likely. We just woke up to them swapped.”

She flicks her wrist, hosing down the trail of fire her boyfriend leaves with each step. He bounces around the warehouse with boundless energy, flames licking at his heels like an excited puppy chasing a butterfly, and Nya’s had to put out more than a few fires.

Jay suddenly steps into one of these fires and disappears, pyroporting in front of Nya. “Nya Nya Nya love of my life hey Nya hi you’re beautiful today like always hi hey—“

Jesse’s expression manages to get more horrified. “How many cups of coffee did Walker have?”

Nya shakes her head with a sigh. “Zero.”

It certainly doesn’t look like it, the way Kai’s firepowers drive him onward like a wind-up toy that never stops.

Speaking of her brother— Kai sits in the corner of the warehouse, unmoving as if he were nothing but a statue made of ice, and shivering as if he actually was one. He’s wrapped in about a dozen blankets, a cocoon of warmth that doesn’t seem to warm the chill in his soul. His teeth clatter so loud Nya can hear it over the rest of the chaos. The only good news is his suddenly-arctic-blue eyes aren’t glowing— in fact, there’s no signs of his new frosty element at all despite his shivering.

It’s in stark contrast to Cole. Despite his calming meditation on the far side of the warehouse, each time Jay runs too close with pounding footsteps, Cole’s mouth twitches just the slightest bit and lightning sparks erupt from his body. Each failure to contain the sharp crackles under his skin only irritate him more, and if Jesse wasn’t so worried about accidentally being shocked (or making a lovesick fool of himself), Nya guesses he’d probably be sitting almost in Cole’s lap trying to calm him down.

Zane probably looks the most comfortable on the surface— excluding Jay, who looks far too giddy and restless for Nya’s liking as the fire messes with his head— but even he struggles, temperature fluctuating at random. He has a relatively good grip on his new element as he tries to tidy the warehouse, except for the slightest bit of dirt he keeps leaving behind that he’s stuck cleaning in an endless circle. Nya can see the strain starting to wear on him as hints of magnolia yellow blossom in his eyes.

“Any luck on finding a reversal?” Jesse asks, fidgeting with a flower he suddenly produces from nowhere.

Nya shakes her head. “I sent Lloyd to look through Wu’s scrolls for anything, but all he’s texted me so far is that he caught a sniffle from all the dust.”

A loud CRASH emanates from outside. Nya and Jesse have just enough time to look at each other before a large hole is blasted through the doors.

“HEYYYYYYY BEACHES!”

Nya groans at the familiar cackle. “Olivia. Why does it have to be her? Why right now?”

Her eyes flare cyan with frustration. Jesse throws his hands up in a calming gesture. “We can handle this, with or without the guys.”

“They’re never going to stay out of the fight, you know.”

“Uhhh—“

Jesse hates to admit it, but Nya is right.

This is not good.

Out of curiosity, who would you swap on a bodyswap/element swap?

And who’s the most likely to have an accidental elemental outburst because the element & emotions that respond strongest to that outburst is different than their usual outbursts?

I think swapping the opposites (Cole+Jay and Kai+Zane) would probably yield the most chaotic results. Jay just constantly causing earthquakes just cuz he’s happy, and Cole trying to bury all his emotions but they keep coming out in sharp crackles at even the smallest bit of provoking. Or Kai being the coldest he’s even been in his life but the Ice isn’t responding to his extreme distress because Ice thrives with less emotion. And then Zane being unable to keep still with the thrum of Fire constantly burning in him, always itching to do something, anything, and disagreeing with Zane’s natural instinct to wait and watch.

But, them swapping with an element more “adjacent” to them could be super fun too! And, honestly, in this very specific scenario they’d probably have more Outbursts from being out of tune with their newfound elements.

Kai with Lightning would be chaotic—while both Fire and Lightning can hit high intensities, Lightning is meant to be temporary while Fire is meant to persist. He’d get a rush on all that power and energy all at once (especially while flying/teleporting ahaha) but then he would not be able to handle the following crash. If he had an Outburst, regardless of emotion, he’d be in pain trying to push through it or tap out completely

With Earth, both thrive with endurance, but there’s the obvious difference in fluidity. Kai would feel powerful with Earth, sure, but it would also come off as suffocating. And he, quicker to get emotional than Cole, would never feel like he could get all his emotions out, further frustrating him (which in turn would also probably cause an agonizing outburst)

For Jay, having Fire would probably make him even more jittery, except he wouldn’t have a cap on his energy, so he’d be go-go-go and never stop (and he wouldn’t know how to regulate it, meaning he’d hit a point where he’d need a break eventually but the Fire in him would oppose that). Moreover, if Fire reacts with his feelings of Sadness, then all the stuff he tries to hide behind his jokes and smiles? Yeah that’d all get bumped right up to the surface.

And then, if Jay had Ice he’d feel like he’s been slowed down too much. Always trying to do more but he can’t (similar to Kai with Earth). Inversely, Jay’s tendency to constantly distance himself from his less pleasant emotions would make the Ice in him stronger, so the more he tries to play things off the further he’d push himself towards an Outburst (instead of it being the opposite way with his Lightning)

Cole with Fire would be fascinating, cuz all the things he normally keeps buried would have no cap/filter/limitation anymore, meaning he couldn’t hide how he really feels even if he tries catch him flaming up just trying to talk to Zane or dealing with his dad lol). He’d feel comfortable with the amount of power Fire gives him, just not super strength

Cole with Ice, though—similar to Jay, Cole distances himself from feelings he doesn’t want to feel (or thinks he doesn’t want to), so he too would probably push himself closer to an Outburst without actively trying. But otherwise I’d think Cole would find Ice as a refreshing change of pace; it’s still got some solidity of Earth, so that’s familiar, but he wouldn’t have to be as rigid with it either (he prefers the guarantee of support over the fragility of Ice, but it’s a little nice to let loose)

Same with Zane and Earth—Earth has the same semblance of structure that Ice does, so he can work with that, but he’d struggle with the permanence. He’s committed, but not necessarily stubborn, so having less room for some flexibility would come off as stifling to him. Plus, Earth can either be hot or cold, so Zane would probably hate the inconsistency of temperature

Zane with Lightning—here he can understand the “temporary” principles of Lightning easily enough and use it to his advantage, but with Lightning being so erratic and without consistent form, he’d struggle to manipulate it for himself. And with Lightning, he’d also be less able to hide what he’s feeling—even the slightest grievance or joy would be punctuated with sparks, haha

And now having written all of this out, Lloyd swapping with any of them wouldn’t be nearly as fun given that he’s already able to connect and/or use aspects of their Elements, so he wouldn’t struggle nearly as much—he just might feel limited but not like there’s a gaping hole of something missing either.

Made a chart collecting all the Imperium photos on the wiki if people wanted to compare some of them

Based on how the emperor markings are mirrored versions of the princess markings, it’s interesting that Beatrix didn’t double her marking

The Advanced System Lab seems to have the same markings no matter the position (aka LaRow’s markings aren’t more special than Jordana’s)

WOAH. I wonder if they have some kind of tracking circuitry in them. Well, if anyone was curious...