VOTE LLOYD THE PROPAGANDA DOESNT EVEN MENTION HALF THE SH!T HE GOES THROUGH (including Straight-up Dying

VOTE LLOYD THE PROPAGANDA DOESN’T EVEN MENTION HALF THE SH!T HE GOES THROUGH (including straight-up dying— kinda multiple times) NOR ANY OF THE MOVIE WHICH, TO SUMMARIZE—

He's the second most HATED PERSON IN THE CITY (second only to the dad he’s never known who’s an evil warlord) just because he’s the son of said warlord no matter how much he tries, has songs bullying him REACH THE NUMBER 1 CHART MULTIPLE TIMES, has a mental block on catching/throwing because of his absent dad, gets told by his uncle on his birthday (which his dad also attacks on) that his hands are the wrong hands, constantly defends a city that hates him as the Green Ninja, accidentally causes the destruction of his city, watches/thinks all his friends DIED because of him, gets bullied by said friends (we ignore this part), goes on a dangerous quest, loses his uncle, has to team up with his dad who bullies him in front of his friends, gets captured and nearly thrown into a volcano by crazy generals, LOSES HIS DUCKING ARM, gets locked in a crumbling and unstable temple with no food by his dad after he thought he broke through to him, watches his dad (who he still cares about despite Garmadon being a sh!tty dad) get eaten by a cat, and just...

Poor Lloyd. There is so, so much trauma.

Have I mentioned he’s had visions of all his friends and family dying? And has had to watch his family die multiple times? Believed them dead on different multiple occasions? Is the DEFINITION of “prophecy chosen one” who gets put through SO MUCH by the universe?

PROPAGANDA UNDER THE CUT: [SPOILERS AND POSSIBLE TRIGGERS AHEAD]

ANTIGONE:

LLOYD GARMADON:

🥷CALLING ALL NINJA🥷

Spread this like wildfire! I want all you faithful loyal Ninjago fans to vote for LLOYD in this tournament poll >> HERE << for most tragic character!!!

We need to spread the tag #NINJANEVERQUIT to all platforms with the link attached so we may reach out to our community!!!

If you aren't a ninja and need convincing as to why you should vote for Lloyd, then please read this >> google doc << I so heartedly put together on all the bullet points to his tragedies!

@ninjago-events happy holidays!!! I hope you have a great day and an amazing new year :)

Made a chart collecting all the Imperium photos on the wiki if people wanted to compare some of them

Based on how the emperor markings are mirrored versions of the princess markings, it’s interesting that Beatrix didn’t double her marking

The Advanced System Lab seems to have the same markings no matter the position (aka LaRow’s markings aren’t more special than Jordana’s)

WOAH. I wonder if they have some kind of tracking circuitry in them. Well, if anyone was curious...

Do you want to hear movie!bruise headcanons @angeldrawsstuffs, @fanfalc-616, and I have because it is exactly what you describe because Blue is an anxiety potato who is very good at sitting in his crushes’ lap and Black is a dense laidback guy who nods along to music and pets Blue’s hair and thinks “man I’m so lucky to have a good friend like Jay”

no cuz every bruise story i've read is jay being completely oblivious to cole's reciprocated feelings. where's cole being oblivious to jay's reciprocated feelings. where's them staring at each other a little too long and jay blushing and cole going "man i wonder if he has a fever." where's cole bending over backwards to justify every one of jay's more flirtatious behaviors because "he's touchy-feely, he does that with everybody, it doesn't MEAN anything" in an effort to not be disappointed. where's cole pulling away from jay out of fear and not understanding that the hurt that flashes through his eyes isn't from being best friends, but from feeling like a rejection of his own romantic feelings. do you see it. do you See My Vision.

A fair opinion! If I may make a counterargument with context—

There’s inherent tragedy in the reason WHY Lloyd has to kill his dad. It’s interconnected in one MASSIVE series arc that is incredibly tragic in terms of the themes of family Ninjago has always strived for.

Lloyd, young 8-year-old Season 1 Lloyd, once looked up to his father. He wanted to be just like him, evil and all, even when Garmadon was banished to the Underworld Lloyd’s whole 8-year-old life. He finds out he has to fight his father (possibly to the death),something his father, corrupted by evil, does not want. There’s struggle on both sides to avoid this fight, but destiny finds a way. Lloyd is a child when he has to fight his possessed dad, and after a very emotionally grueling battle, manages to win. His father is finally free from evil. Everything should be happy.

Except Lloyd is trapped forever by destiny, by the narrative, by the cycle of war and grief and tragedy that Ninjago writes (seriously, cycles and spinning are central themes in this series). And he only gets his father back for a short while before he has to sacrifice him to save his home, has to banish him to the Cursed Realm & therefor get him “killed”. It’s a theme of sacrifice that Lloyd has always had to do— sacrifice his childhood to the prophecy of the Green Ninja, sacrifice his powers, sacrifice his father, sacrifice his life, all for “destiny” (which is literally written as a narrative in-universe by the Cloud Kingdom).

And then the next season, his father dies when the cursed realm is destroyed, all because Lloyd opened the portal there in the first place allowing some ghosts to escape & sent his father to that realm.

And Lloyd grieves.

A few seasons later, Harumi (you’ve seen her mentions in Lloyd’s propaganda, it’s this whole other tragic thing) resurects Lloyd’s father, but only the evilness. There is no trace of the man he once was. Lloyd fights him again, tries to reach out to him the way he once did in the prophecy battle—

And is beaten within an inch of his life and thrown through multiple walls by his father. His father takes over the city, destroys it, sends a vicious manhunt after an injured Lloyd. His father (at least from Lloyd’s perspective, unaware they escaped) murders multiple members of Lloyd’s family. Over and over, Lloyd is hurt by him.

And then we see a mirror that shows your deepest, darkest fear. And when Lloyd stands before it, he sees himself becoming his father. The thing he once wanted more than anything has become his greatest fear. He is scarred, never to recover, having lost all hope and love for the person he once loved more than anyone, his idol, his hero, his father.

(And that’s not even touching all the stuff with Garmadon in the movie, nor all of Lloyd’s other traumas like dying multiple times or getting possessed or being isolated for years thinking all his friends/family is dead or watching said friends and family die multiple times or everything else)

I recognize that there can be debate over how to define tragedy, like Greek tragedies hardly all followed Aristotle's definition and those were in turn different from things like Shakespearean tragedy or modern definitions of "tragic character" but I think at the very least a tragic character should have a coherent arc, quality over quantity. A bunch of UNRELATED bad things happening to a character just because a show has gone on for a really long time isn't really telling a coherent tragic story. Especially when some of the bad things happening are literally repeats of each other. Like I haven't watched Ninjago but I keep hearing about how Lloyd had to kill his father 3 times, but I think reusing a "he has to kill his father" plot point over and over again while not having him die for real just to give each season a new plot is a lot less tragic than a more coherent narrative where someone just has to kill their father once and this ties into their overall character arc.

Very valid opinion