In Dreams Defense, If I Had A Wedding And AFTER The Objections My Best Friend Shouted OBJECTION!!!!!

In Dream’s defense, if I had a wedding and AFTER the objections my best friend shouted “OBJECTION!!!!!” way too late, then gave me a chicken, pulled me behind a pillar and the kissed me…

I’d freak out too! My fight or flight instic would activate and I would just yeet myself out of this uncomfortable situation.

... Okay I know I said I would post this yesterday... but time is just a construct and isn’t real!

Morning! I hope you’ve had a great day or night, If not don’t worry it’ll get better! Like I said I just wanted to talk about Tommy and Tubbo’s friendship and how we got to where we are in the plot. I won’t waste your time so let’s just start. 

Also keep in mind that they are just playing characters and Tubbo and Tommy are still good friends!

(Also I just realised someone who I've followed for a while and think is genuinely funny reblogged one of my posts and I'm so fucking happy, thank you so much you made my day!) 

Okay so in the DreamSMP, Tommy and Tubbo arguably have the strongest friendship, like a dynamic duo. But I think everyone at this point knows what has happened in their most recent streams if not, go watch the VOD’s since I don’t want to cause spoilers for people who haven’t seen the VOD’s but TLDR: Tommy fucked up and Tubbo isn’t happy with him. 

With it came kinda a divide in the fandom on who was in the right and who was in the wrong. I already made it clear I agree with the Tubbo side of the fandom in this since when he called Tommy out on being selfish I 100% agreed with him also, to be blunt Tommy’s characters was just acting like a over confident dick. I get that Tommy’s character has suffered a lot and deserves some happiness but, he just acted reckless and also dragged Tubbo into a deeper mess then he was already in.

At the start of the war, as in when it was just Dream vs Tommy (feels like a long time ago actually) Tubbo could’ve easily backed out since it really had nothing to do with him but, he decided to help because of how close him and Tommy were. I wanna bring something up I said: “Through most of the story Tubbo has been the most calm and rational as well as has arguable sacrificed a lot for Tommy and when it came time for Tommy to finally repay Tubbo he basically spat in his face and showed that at his worst Tommy can be incredible selfish.” and even now I stand by that! Tubbo lost his wooden house after Dream burnt it down (during the war Tommy had a hand in starting), he spent hours collecting materials and was killed multiple times (in the same war Tommy had a hand in starting). 

Even Tommy couldn’t seemingly think of anything notable he had done for Tubbo since all he said was that he had put his disc’s aside for 2 conflicts he had a hand in starting “I put them to the side every other time when there was a crazy man when there was a dictator every time” he and Wilbur chose to have the election. Tubbo even brought it up himself “You couldn't do one thing for me! You couldn't do one just one thing and it was for your own good” and even when Tubbo was upset with Tommy and was proven that he only cared about his disks Tubbo still tried to help him get out of a bad situation which falls in line with who he his as a person. I will admit there are possibly some moments where Tommy did do something for Tubbo but, either they were too minor to remember or they never happened (really if anyone can think of anything give me a heads up, I don’t want to sound like a bigger moron.)

Speaking about personality, I’ve seen people bring up the fact that Tommy would never exile Tubbo, and ya! 100% fair and valid point Tommy needs Tubbo as much as Tubbo needs Tommy but, bring up the stream again Tubbo said: “so you know what if the if the roles were reversed as you said (...) you wouldn't exile me because I would have actually listened to you and done what you said” Tubbo has pretty much always made an effort to listen to his friends, and to help them but like I said “You can only push a person so far before they push back” Tubbo’s character has listened for a while and has finally pushed back against Tommy.

I feel like this has started to become a “Bullying TommyInnit’s character post” I don’t mean that I just started typing and here we are. So before it does turn into bullying I should move on. Now, I know when it comes to who is morally right between them, there isn’t really a clean cut answer. While Tommy has proven himself to be incredibly selfish at his worst, Tubbo has done things that could make him look like bad friend but, in my opinion he hasn’t reached his lowest point.

... Soooo I don’t really know how to end something like this, I mostly have short responses and not long carefully typed out ones. I’m sorry if I sounded harsh during this I just started typing and wasn’t thinking fully. Thank you for reading!

(By the way please keep in mind that no matter if Tommy does get exiled please don’t hate on Tubbo also, they are just playing characters at the and they are still friends. )

“we get the blade“

... or Tommy get’s over cocky again and say’s they try to talk to Techno! (because that went well in the past)

Tommy should be exiled for three reasons

1) He messed up, he needs to be punished, Tubbo asked for one thing and he messed up. He was in the clear.

2) The Theseus parallels. Let’s not forget Technos amazing speech shall we? How Tommy is Theseus? How Theseus was exiled? Guys imagine the plot, the angst. Also he could go be with Techno idk but PLEASE

3) What other choice do they have? Legitimately, yeah they can take exile, but then what? Dream isn’t an idiot, and he’s certainly powerful, I just don’t see it ending well

Oh boy, here's my hot take :)

Yes, I'm both a Tubbo and a Techno apologist

I can’t tell if Tubbo is actually going to go through with Tommy’s plan or not

... and that scares me slightly