The Dynamic Of Ascended Astarion And Tav

The dynamic of Ascended Astarion and Tav

Is a pacifier better than a blood bag?

Patch 6 has me feeling things. these are just my opinions and random thoughts.

Consort is just Ascended Astarion’s pacifier: an object he uses to feel safe, loved, to comfort him when he needs it. I don’t think Astarion, in his evil route, would likely ever open himself up to anyone again.

He loves Tav, he tells you as much during his Act 2 confession. That he’s fallen for you. A!A will also tell you “You’re the one I want, the one that I love.” (this is different than his “I love you, that’s what you’ve been waiting to hear? that’s what you want?”) And idk i just think it’s interesting he will say that to you.

Also - Astarion tells you that he going to do the ritual so that you’ll both be safe- forever, for good. (He tells you this right after his siblings attack) You can’t tell me that man wasn’t already planning on eternity with Tav at that point. I think it’s very likely he’s already thinking he will make Tav a vampire if he can.

I think it’s interesting how Larian just added to Astarion’s objectification of Tav, and now it’s very obvious WHY Astarion won’t let you go if you break up with him post tadpole.

If Tav leaves him, his ending is essentially the same in the epilogue, so he doesn’t need Tav for protection or help planning or anything like that.

Tav is his pacifier!!!

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That person reblogged one of your posts and tagged it "can't even talk to me like an adult, but gotta subtweet" Why would anyone treat them like an adult? They deleted replies off their post and seem to be incapable of reading more than a few paragraphs. Also they seem to be confused about what website they're on if they're talking about subtweeting.

I did talk to them like an adult. I was one of the first to do so to tell them to stop stirring the pot by posting that crap to the main AA tag. I also told them that they're a hypocrite for telling AA fans to shut up but then say to "please refrain from trying to control another's blog" as if they weren't rude as hell in their post and proceeded to use Larian as an excuse for their poor behavior. They deleted my messages. How else would I have known about their replies and what was said without snooping? XD Yeah, not a very adult way of handling things if you want to be talked to like an adult. Now, they get ignored as they were just doing it for attention. I hope all of this sounds familiar for them.

Oh god, I should have known they were from twitter...

The kiss of the Ascended Astarion is coming, folks. That means a new batch of fixers poison scrolls.

About the kiss itself, the new movements and phrases afterward if any are to be made.

In repertory:

- He's cringe and gross, ew - His kiss is creepy - He's abjusively kissing - He's manipulatively kissing - It's the honeymoon phase of the abusive cycle - He fakes feelings because Mephistopheles took his soul\all good - Kiss with Cazador 2.0. - It's not Astarion's kiss, it’s a husk's kiss - He not himself anymore - He's mimics feelings because he's stuck in trauma - He's like a True Vampire obsessively kissing, it's not love - He has no feelings, he's incapable of love. - Tav is humiliated in his eyes, he doesn't love - He despises Tav and considers Tav a degenerate pet-property, he doesn't love, the kiss isn't real love - It's an act of possession, not a love-kiss - It's a power play, not a love-kiss - He's kissing misogynistic\plain hateful - *Something passive-aggressive, provocative, snide* - Hot, BUT I love Spawn, his kiss is genuine, true and better wuw - It's sad to see that. Heartbreaking - Pathetic - He closes his eyes, he doesn't love - He opens his eyes, he doesn't love - He has eyes, he doesn't love etc.

This tasteless song is sung about everything the Ascended Astarion does. Generally from those who hate the "romanticization" of dark romances with the vampire-decadent who is Astarion. So it's anything, but one single nice romance with the "evil" man for the "path of evil" (like Minthara) in the game and a sincere kiss of Dark Love.

It's funny if Spawn and Lord kiss is no different. And it's not fair if one of them gets a kiss and one of them doesn't. I hope I didn't miss anything. Post will be edited if so

Many Doms become Doms to feel better, it's a kind of therapy with someone who trusts you. I wouldn't be surprised if Astarion has this. But in romance this is not revealed. Astarion is very fragile, so it looks harsh.. Fanservice. Even if Dom, ok, literally needs one tender kiss to have balance.

The face Tav - victim a cringe and an February 14th. Ethical miss - February 14 - victim. Or not? Logical miss - Tav approached and chose a wild lion for a kiss, before that sent 7k souls to Meph for lunch. A Doe face?

The miracle of a good DE will help. But with this approach, we have no chance.

There’s something ugly and morbid about how Larian is actively retconning Ascended!Astarion to make him a daddy dom. (Link to what I’m referencing here) Like, nobody has an issue with your Master/Sub kink, but Astarion’s story line dips way too much into topics like lack of consent and sexual abuse for this shit to be acceptable. Astarion’s story is about breaking cycles of abuse, and so for Larian to needlessly sexualize Ascended!Astarion for a subsect of BG3’s fandom is weird. It spits in the face of the character.

What’s grimey is them lying in our faces about their reasons for this. “Oh we made this obvious kink daddy dom material to illustrate that ascended!Astarion isn’t good”. Bro, no the fuck you didnt. Sex sells and Astarion is the most sexualized male character besides Halsin. They did this secure the bag from Ascended!Astarion thirsters. They’re lucky that everybody already knows this is for the Daddy Dom Astarion crowd, because it’s either an obvious kink scene for Ascended!Astarion fans, or they’re just throwing a sexual assault scene at us (because we see how terrified the character looks when this kiss scene happens). Neither is good, but one is more eye roll inducing than the other.

Again, there’s nothing wrong with some daddy dom kink shit. BUT, this is not the character to do with this with. Like nobody would be calling this out if it was character who didn’t have a storyline that delves into sexual abuse, or if it wasn’t between a vampire god king and their established puppet.

Larian was already playing with fire when they went this story route with Astarion. They didn’t have to add the sexual abuse aspect to his story, he coulda just been a vampirespawn puppet who persuades mfs to go to Cazador’s Mansion, there didn’t have to be any sexual abuse involved. I think that Larian went with a cheap “mature and deep” trauma for Astarion but they don’t have the integrity to treat the character with respect.