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And There It Goes My Al-Hanna Sketch Was Complete

And There It Goes My Al-Hanna Sketch Was Complete
And There It Goes My Al-Hanna Sketch Was Complete

and there it goes my Al-Hanna sketch was complete

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10 months ago

do you have any pictures or resources on what yuan dynasty hanfu looked like? i see a lot of song and ming, but rarely yuan. i know it was ruled by the mongols, but i don’t think i ever read that the han were forced to wear mongol clothing like they were manchu clothing during the qing dynasty.

Yes. Han was not forced to wear Mongolian clothing in Yuan dynasty, but before the Mongolians conquered all of China, the northern part of zhongyuan regions was conquered by Jin Dynasty of the Jurchens, who enforced rules to wear only Jurchen clothing. Hence, in Yuan dynasty Han people from the north and the south (previously ruled by Song dynasty) had different dressing habits. At the same time, for various reasons people might switch to Mongolian clothing. Hence, Han clothing during the Yuan dynasty was a mix and match of various cultures, depending on where those people were from. Those from the north would wear clothing predominantly influences by Xixia, Liao, Jin dynasties, while those from the south would wear clothing evolved from Song.

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Men usually wore cross-collar or circular-collar robes, similar to Song dynasty.

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Woman often depicted wearing ao/shan with mamian qun, often with a short-sleeves parallel collar jacket. There is not many ao/shan excavated from Yuan dynasty. On the other hand, many short-sleeves did. These short-sleeves came in a variety of size (sleeve-length, fitting), and could have side vents. These short sleeves was probably inherited 貉袖hexiu of the Song dynasty.

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The blue and brown colour short-sleeves represent two important colours in Yuan dynasty wardrobe. The Mongolians hold blue-green in high regard, while brown was one of the most common colour for the commoners (because Yuan dynasty banned commoners from wearing many bright colours and could only wear the natural colour of the fibre or dark colour).

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There might be other type of skirts around that was not mamian qun.

Do You Have Any Pictures Or Resources On What Yuan Dynasty Hanfu Looked Like? I See A Lot Of Song And

Left or right

Interestingly, from the figurines and murals, women often depicted as wearing the right lapel over their left lapel (左衽zuǒrèn). While men wore their clothes like Han people, with the left lapel over the right lapel (右衽yòurèn; the collar forms a y shape).

It was speculated that Mongolians used to wear zuoren, but later they officially pushed for youren, due to Han influence. It is possible that the switch did not affect women and commoners, although there are drawings of high-ranking Mongolian women in youren.

In addition, unlike Han people of the time, they actually regards the right side as the more important side, although later they switched back to the left side. Hence the position of the husband and wife depicted on murals was used as an evidence to place the period of the tomb.

At the same time, the Jurchens actually worn zuoren exclusively. Thus women wearing zuoren might just be something left over from Jin dynasty.

Effect of Yuan Dynasty

Yuan dynasty introduced many new elements into Han people’s wardrobe, and some even stayed firmly in Ming dynasty (much to the effort of the Hongwu Emperor). Some examples:

Terlig, jisun and others gave rise to tieli, yesha, dahu, zhaojia etc.

The closing of cuff 收祛

钹笠帽Bólì mào (don’t know what its Mongolian name) became damao

The Nasich textile weaving technique form Persia

The golden collar and upper arm decorations (云肩)

The golden rectangular decorations on the chest and the back became buzi

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This is a very brief introduction to Han clothing during the Yuan dynasty. I am not particularly familiar with this dynasty and I hope I did not made any glaring mistake.

Some References

北方地区蒙元壁画墓研究_洪淑莹

关中元墓出土陶俑研究_蒲洋

蒙元关中服饰文化研究_赵学江

蒙元时期随葬俑的研究_徐正宇

穹庐一曲本天成_张宏瑜

中国古代设计中的_胡化_与汉胡融合现象研究_陈筱娇

元代妇女服饰简论(上)——服装和化妆

Archeology reports

苏州吴张士诚母曹氏墓清理简报_郭远谓

邹县元代李裕庵墓清理简报_王轩

江苏无锡市元墓中出土一批文物_钱宗奎

河北隆化鸽子洞元代窖藏_田淑华

洞藏锦绣六百年之——两件元代对襟半臂短袄的保护与研究_ 贾汀

On youren and zuoren

北方地区蒙元壁画墓研究_洪淑莹

北方蒙元墓葬墓主人形象与族属问题的再思考_赵丹坤

蒙元关中服饰文化研究_赵学江

蒙元时期周边文化对蒙古族服饰影响探析_陈晓

穹庐一曲本天成_张宏瑜

Pictures of the women in slide 4 and 5 were from 清荷今天成为蛇蝎美女了吗 on weibo, used with permission.

24/05/21 Edit slide 7, add more references.


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10 months ago

Talking about the Qabā'. Again.

The last time I talked about the Qaba was in another post where i was very excited to have found a miniature from either Syria or Egypt that matched an extant piece of fabric from a close time period. Today I'm going to talk about the garment itself more, and it's relatives. The impetus for this is that a few months ago, I was scrolling through hanfu blogs- if you've read the article I published in Egyptian Migrations, you know I have an interest not just in Egyptian fashion, but how other cultures navigate fashion, both in their unique subcultures and traditional styles. While doing so I came across the tieli (貼裏), and quite liked the look of it, so I searched up the garment and began looking more at it. As I was scrolling through the many pretty pictures, I realized hey- I've seen this before. This looks a lot like that coat with the red foliage pattern!

Turns out this was because they're related.

They're not the only ones either- the Qabā' (as both Farsi and Arabic call it), the Tieli, the Indian Jama, the Korean Cheolik, and more, all bear a resemblance to each other. Covergent evolution happens plenty of course, but in this case there's something of an established link. In fact while doing my research, I found a paper specifically about this garment family (The Dress of the Mongol Empire: Genealogy And Diaspora of the Terlig by Woohyun Cho, Jaeyoon Yi, and Jinyoung Kim), though without explicit mention of the Qabā'.

Talking About The Qab'. Again.
Talking About The Qab'. Again.

The name and garment Tieli come from the Mongolian Terlig and Jisün (also called a Zhama (诈玛 or 詐馬), establishing a possible linguistic connection to the Jama) during the Yuan dynasty. Like many Mongolian traditional garments, it's well suited to horseback riding, which which what many Mamluk depictions also show the Qabā' being worn during. It could be round or cross collar (the combination of the two is unique to the Qabā'). The key features of the garment were a knee to calf length skirt that was gathered or pleated, a close fitting bodice cut separate from the skirt, close fitting sleeves, a corded waist which usually lead into the ties that closed the garment. According to the aforementioned trio, the garment was originally made of hides, and the waist detail found in the original Terlig, lost in other cultures renditions, is an indication of this. The Terlig, known before this point, was introduced to China, India, and Korean when the Monglian Empire was an active political entity in the 13th century and onwards, and this is the case for this style of Qabā' as well. During the 13th century, the Ilkhanate was established in the former territory of the Khwarazmian Empire, after a political incident where the Shah ordered the execution of a group of merchants sent by the Mongolian Empire lead to a long military conflict. The Ilkhanate went on to control large portions of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and the Caucasus, as well as Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, and Pakistan. Ultimately the Ilkhanate tried, but never did, conquer Egypt, which was ruled by the Mamluks at the time.

However, it did leave a cultural influence behind. Reference to this origin for this style of qaba can be found in one of the two names for the Qabā': al-aqbiya al-tatariyya or qabā' tatarī, meaning the Tatar coat or Tatar way of wearing a coat. Tatar, in this instance, is being used to refer to Mongolians. A similar distinction can be found in the Jama, where Muslims fasten it on the right in the Mongolian style (brought to my attention by the paper mentioned before). The tatarī is fastened in the same way, ties on the wearer's right of the body. The other style of Qabā' (al-aqbiya al-turkiyya) is the same, but fastens on the opposite side of the body. The Mamluks preferred the tatarī, but it was not the exclusive style worn. Along with this, some Qabā' fastened in the center front.

The Jisün was a type of Terlig, made of one color of silk and gold, worn as a robe of honor by officials during the Yuan dynasty. During the later Ming dynasty, it became the dress of certain military officials. It had different varieties for seasons and social status. It also progenitated the Yesa (曳撒), which was longer and more widely worn than the Jisün. The Feiyufu (飞鱼服) was a Ming variant of the Tieli, and another type of honor robe. The Qing dynasty Chaofu also seems to have taken the terlig into account when it was designed.

Talking About The Qab'. Again.

The Cheolik has a crossover collar, pleated skirt, and may have quite long, wide sleeves. Political marriages with Mongolian courts likely helped this garment take root. This garment is still worn today as Korea, like China, has revitalized its traditional clothing. It is mostly by women today as far as I can tell, though historically it was a masculine garment. It has a longer hem than the Terlig. It also sometimes had a higher waistline.

Talking About The Qab'. Again.

The Jama was introduced by the Mughal dynasty, and unlike the other garments listed here which typically used rectangles and triangles for constructing clothes, the one pattern I've seen for it taken from an extant garment (as opposed to being a guess) shows a skirt made of gores and set in sleeves with a gusset. Another example, laid flat, shows rectangular sleeves with a gusset, but the skirt cannot be determined. It was later renamed to sarbgati. It typically has a crossover fastening, though I have seen one that closed in the center front. The ties are especially prominent and decorated, which overall is not the case in the rest of the garment family. Gold bands on the sleeves and collar are sometimes found as decoration. It also has a longer hem and higher waistline than the Terlig.

Talking About The Qab'. Again.
Talking About The Qab'. Again.
Talking About The Qab'. Again.
Talking About The Qab'. Again.

In my previous post I noted a similarly to this robe and the Central Asian and Persian robes I'd seen from a different century, but was hesitant to connect them. Now I'm sure of a connection. The waist seam is confirmed! There are still several stylistic differences, though:

1. The Qabā', in Syrian and Egyptian depictions, typically combines a round neckline with the cross over collar. The Persian Qabā' typically does not have a round neckline.

2. The Qabā' usually has what looks like a gathered skirt, not a pleated one, as the Tieli does. The Terlig sometimes has a gathered skirt as well, as does the Jama.

3. The Syrian and Egyptian Qabā' is decorated with strips of gold, not with a cloud collar. The Persian Qabā' often has a cloud collar, which it inherits from the Terlig, and I have seen an Angarkha from Lahore with a cloud collar as well. It sometimes has bands. The Seljuk Qabā' sometimes has bands, and sometimes has a rank badge (more commonly found in Chinese court dress). As an aside, I recently found a British drawing (from life, presumably) of an Egyptian envoy in a garment similar to an Angarkha as well...

4. The Qabā' in Syrian and Egyptian depictions often retains the knee or calf length good for horse riding that many other garments in this family moved away from.

5. The Qabā' most likely does not have the corded waist found in the Terlig. There is a gold band around the waist in some depictions that could be a braided waist, but could also be a belt. Unfortunately I don't know of any extant examples from Syria or Egypt that would clarify matters. There is an example which might be Persian that does show this corded waist. Most depictions have no waist detail other than an indication of a waistline.

As far as I know, while this robe spread a little into the Balkans and Eastern Europe (the cloud collar has appeared in some Christian Iconography and a few examples of Terlig like historical garments exist), it did not spread much further west or south of Egypt. However, given the Qabā' has been excluded from discussions of the Terlig's many sons already, it's possible I simply don't know about it, as further iterations in Africa would be excluded as well. As always, I welcome people bringing their own findings to the table.

Further reading: The Dress of the Mongol Empire: Genealogy And Diaspora of the Terlig by Woohyun Cho, Jaeyoon Yi, and Jinyoung Kim

Mongol court dress, identity formation, and global exchange by Eiren L. Shea

https://sartorialegypt.wordpress.com/2022/12/03/a-brief-discussion-of-a-mamluk-robe/ - prev post

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O480307/gown/ - the cloud collar angarkha

https://www.newhanfu.com/6021.html - Discussion of the tieli and yesa

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41917645 - Terlig discussion

https://www.jstor.org/stable/43957434 - general discussion of Yuan clothing with a nice example of a terlig

https://en.unesco.org/silkroad/silk-road-themes/mouvable-heritage-and-museums/robe-decorative-braided-waist-band-0 - Terlig example

A Preliminary Study of Mongol Costumes in the Ming Dynasty by Luo Wei

https://m.terms.naver.com/entry.naver?cid=46671&docId=563301&categoryId=46671 - Cheolik

Arab dress: a short history; from the dawn of Islam to modern times by Yedida Stillman

https://lugatism.com/outer-garments-in-the-mamluk-sultanate/#3-_Qaba_qba - the Qaba and other dress in the Mamluk era

https://www.agakhanmuseum.org/collection/artifact/robe-AKM677 - a robe which may be Persian or Central Asian with the corded waist

Additionally, blogs like @ziseviolet and @fouryearsofshades post about hanfu, including the tieli and yesa.


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10 months ago

A woman wearing Chinese armor


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11 months ago

me too

Oh God I`m So Much Miss Him T---T

oh God I`m so much miss him T---T


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