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I Don't Get Why Most Of Team Green Like Aemond So Much. Like, Why?

I don't get why most of Team Green like Aemond so much. Like, why?

Most of TG stans hate Daemon and Aemond is just a less cool copy of him. Everything that is bad about Daemon, Aemond takes It to the extreme.

–Daemon is cruel and sadistic? Aemond kill every single member of House Strong in a tantrum.

–Daemon is "bad to women"? (Canon Daemon only ever insulted his first wife) Aemond calls women and mothers, weak, he calls Rhaenyra a whore, he takes Alys as the spoils of war.

–Daemon is chaotic and a mad man? Aemond burned the Riverlands in another tantrum.

Even the so called "neutrals" or "team smallfolk" seem to like him despite how many innocent smallfolk he kills.

You can like him, I like villians more than heroes normally, but stop acting as if he is better and right or justified.

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I love how Alicent hates Targaryen customs but knew she had to marry Aegon and Helaena to give more strength to his claim and knew that this way the targaryen blood would be higher than the hightower blood in their children, TG loves to criticize incest and call Targ inbreed freaks when Aegon and Helaena's children are 100% inbreed lol and if the greens' plans all went well, aegon and helaena's children would also get married in the future. so they should stop this moral and hypocritical criticism

TG stans are just the definition of hypocrisy. They rage against House Targaryen for using their dragons in war then support Aemond and Daeron who burned the Riverlands and Tumbleton. They condemn the Targaryens' rejection of Andal culture while the greens don't follow anything to do with the Faith. They despise the Targaryen incest when Aegon and Helaena were forced to marry by their "saintly" mother. They accuse the Targaryens of practicing blood purity and being bigoted when Alicent and her children believe that they are superior to Rhaenyra and her family as well as the rest of the realm.

The greens exemplify everything Targaryen antis claim to hate. It makes their hatred of Rhaenyra and Daenerys completely transparent. They hate them because they are women who took control of their lives and fought the patriarchy. Alicent (show) and Helaena simply suffered prettily, which is why they are acceptable. Aegon and Aemond were made into "victims" by the show and we know very little about Daeron which makes them excusable. TG stans only love the victimized ideas of their favs, which is why they ignore everything wrong with them.


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Okay, Alicent Hightower is not a self-insert. Self-inserts had much more agency than her.

She is a walking aesthetic, the one of the victim, the suffering woman who never complains, the one that is pretty when she cries, the Madonna in the Madonna-Whore Complex, despite being a terrible fucking mother. She is played by a conventionally attractive actress, she is suffering all the time but never does anything against those who abuse her, she lashes out against the other females (Rhaenyra) that she percieves as undeserving of what they have, or to her young children, but that doesn't matter because abusive women aren't even registered by the fandom.

So, not a self-insert, I honestly prefer the self-inserts.

" The dance of dragons isn't about misogyny"

Literally any character who chooses Aegon over Rhaenyra for ruler : she's a woman and he's a man.

team green stans after arguing for forty five minutes on how rhaenyras older kids lives mean less because they are bastards (stop. its weird.):

They're so self-righteous and obsessed with their skewed morals that they don't even realize they've regressed into the Medieval views. TG stans (especially Alicent stans) will go on and on about feminism and how Rhaenyra isn't "actually a feminist". Meanwhile they want a man to usurp the female heir and for Westeros to stay that way because women should suffer silently.

The bastardphobia is definitely the most telling viewpoint though. They'll talk about how monstrous Daemon and Rhaenyra are, then turn around and dehumanize Rhaenyra's sons just because they were conceived out of wedlock. They'll support Alicent in calling them savages and blame them for Aegon's bullying even though they were seven and six. They agree with Aegon that Luke's death should be celebrated. They'll agree with Alicent that Jace's life is worth less than her "trueborn" grandsons.

TG don't actually care about the realm and the people, they don't even care about a six year old child. The decision to view Jace, Luke, and Joff as subhuman is disgusting and just shows how disturbed their point of view is.

Daenerys was the Key

Not for him, thought Tyrion, not for the Nine Mages, nor Baelor the Blessed, nor any of the others...till Daenerys.

This quote is from an early draft of ADWD back when it was still combined with AFFC. Just because it didn't make it to the final draft doesn't mean that it's not still true. By the way, the him is Maelys Blackfyre, who, in the early drafts, killed his son in a blood sacrifice to hatch dragon eggs.

After the Dance of the Dragons and the death of the last dragon hatchling, attempts were made by the Targaryens to bring back the dragons. First was sanctioned by Aegon III, who had mages (the nine from the quote) from Essos brought to KL to try to hatch some eggs with their magic; clearly they failed. Baelor the Blessed prayed over his dragon egg for a year to try and make it hatch.

The next recorded attempt was by Aegon V. After Aegon's reforms to better the lives of the smallfolk, the lords began to get restless and unhappy. This, compounded with the Baratheons revolting over Duncan's marriage to Jenny of Oldstones, caused Aegon to attempt to bring back the dragons in order to keep the lords in check. Aegon attempted to hatch the dragons using wildfire and mages at Summerhall, causing the deaths of almost the entire family, with the exception of Aerys, Rhaella, and the newborn Rhaegar. The eggs did not hatch. Aerys the Mad also attempted to use wildfire to hatch eggs, with the same results.

It wasn't until Daenerys Targaryen that dragons were brought back into the world. And it wasn't because of a fire, a blood sacrifice, or a magic ritual, it was because of her. There was plenty of fire at Summerhall and in KL, yet the eggs didn't hatch. Much blood was spilt at Summerhall, much of it king's blood, yet the eggs didn't hatch. The mages used magic rituals and it could be argued Baelor's prayers were an attempt at a ritual, yet the eggs didn't hatch. In the original draft, Maelys burned his son alive, yet the eggs still didn't hatch.

Daenerys is the one component missing from the past attempts, she is the key.

The whole point of the scene in A Game of Thrones where Daenerys hatches the dragons is that she makes up the magic as she goes along; she is someone who really might do anything. (George R. R. Martin)

There it is from the man himself: Dany is the reason the eggs hatched. If it had been anyone else, not Jon Snow nor Young Griff not any other character in ASOIAF, the eggs wouldn't have hatched. She was the key for the ritual to work, she is the Mother of Dragons, and no one else could have replaced her.


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