" The Dance Of Dragons Isn't About Misogyny"

" The dance of dragons isn't about misogyny"

Literally any character who chooses Aegon over Rhaenyra for ruler : she's a woman and he's a man.

aegon always being manipulated by his grandfather and mother, but of course... he would be a better king lol try saying that otto thinks aegon is an incompetent drunk fool and who wants him to just sit his ass on the throne but he's the one who's going to rule for a TG stans

Aegon is the perfect example for how the ASOIAF fandom's standards for men are infinitely lower than those for women. Aegon, the Baratheon brothers, Aemond, and Jamie Lannister are all men who are just shitty people, yet the fandom is obsessed with defending them.

It's always excusable for a man to do something awful, even rape multiple people, as long as they're sometimes funny, are attractive, or do a few nice things. Women, meanwhile, are hated for any mistake if they stray too far from the idea of a "proper woman". Arya, Daenerys, Rhaenyra, Catelyn, and Cersei are turned from being complex characters, some of whom have done awful things, into one-dimensional demons.

The fans who become TG stans have always been sexist in one way or another, HoTD just gives them an excuse to be more open about it. Those who defend and love Aegon do the same for Robert Baratheon. Both men are abusive to their wives, are rapists, have an unknown number of bastards (since TG is obsessed with Rhaenyra's), and are bad rulers. Yet they are seen as superior to the women around them (especially the women who oppose them) simply because they are men.

every day TG crying because they want Jaehaera to live in the series and be the mother of Aegon III's children, they don't even care about the girl they just want to be able to say that their green lineage continues in some way, they can't accept that TG lost in the end of the day and they want to shove this girl as if she had any relevance, jaehaera purpose was died, the end! I have nothing against her but these stans make me want ryan to kill the girl soon so i don't have to deal with this bullshit 😅

Jaehaera doesn't actually matter to TG stans except when they use her to try to rob TB of their victory. They don't consider that her mental health would suffer drastically if she had been forced to live as Aegon's wife. Yeah, it's tragic what happened to her, but that's kind of the point. She suffers because of her parents' and grandparents' awful choices. But to acknowledge that would mean admitting their favs are shitty people.

Jaehaera doesn't deserve to die, but her death helps show how the greens' actions negatively impacted the lives of Westerosi girls and women. But if course, if TG stans refuse to acknowledge the wrongs TG has done. Jaehaera was doomed from the moment Aegon chose to usurp Rhaenyra (no he wasn't forced, he made a choice), she might have been even from birth, considering Aegon and Helaena were forced to marry purely to support his claim.

Aside from the themes and narrative, Jaehaera herself would not have been happy as queen. She's traumatized, has mental disabilities, and would have a really shitty marriage. If she could live, why would she want to live in a loveless (at best) marriage while the kingdom is in mass turmoil.

Anyone who wants Jaehaera to survive and be married to Aegon III doesn't understand the story or care about her as a character. Jaehaera was doomed by her family from the start, if TG stans want someone to blame for her ending, they should look at their favs.

At least, Alicent (both in HOTD and F&B) isn’t a canonically anti-Black character unlike Rhaenyra, but sure keep trying to whitewash a privileged white woman who tries to commit a racially motivated hate crime against a Black girl. But hey, nobody’s perfect. Girl power!

All right. Let us repeat then :

"I think there are three options on this, either there was indeed racial bias in Rhaenyra (and even that doesn't take away from all the tragedy she suffered and that Team Blacks was better than Team Blacks Greens). Either she said it. from a point of view completely biased by jealousy mixed with her psychosis having developed in the meantime. Although I don't like to compare Rhaenyra to Cersei, I have to say that the Rhaenyra's dialogue on Nettles is very similar to that of Cersei on Brienne which... therefore has nothing to do with racism. Or perhaps Eustace, a supporter of the Greens, simply invented or distorted what she said. We can't really be sure."

So, there's no exact canon in there. Rhaenyra may have racial prejudices due to the context in which she evolved / grew up, or her dialogue about Nettles has everything to do with jealousy and psychoticism, or finally Eustace lied or transformed what she said. Once again, there is no certainty in this. Especially since outside of this scene, there has never been any insinuation as to any particular intolerance coming from Rhaenyra.

Next... wow an Alicent defender. Am I supposed to take you seriously ? The canonically purist blood woman, without any possible debate on the subject, unlike Rhaenyra for Nettles, would surely not have problems with racism, of course... All this is very realistic to think about. Girl power ! Long live Queen Alicent Hightower ! (What Joke...)

No, but how am I supposed to take seriously someone who was trying to defend Alicent while defaming Rhaenyra ? Alicent is scum, pure and simple. There is no nuance about her. And we're not even going to talk about the entire Greens team, because you'll be humiliated.

Also... Since you antis loved mixing the book and the series... Forget a racist Rhaenyra in the series. The Velaryons are black, and Rhaenyra has shown no racism towards them.

I don't know what your problem is with believing that we love Rhaenyra, Daemon and the Blacks team because they would be angels. Most of them are gray characters... So based on having a bad and / or ambiguous appearance. So it will always bug me when I see people complaining that gray characters are capable of bad things and worse trying to make them out to be pure villains because of it. Like there is a huge paradox that must be in your head.

the anon asking for differences

Aemond wasn't bullied

Alicent wasn't a victim

Rhaenyra was younger than Alicent

Rhaenyra and Alicent were never friends, Rhaenyra and Laena were close

Daemon never choked Rhaenyra

The dress scene with Alicent belonged to Rhaenyra in the book

Rhaenys had dark hair

Aegon's r@pe on Dyana wasn't so obvious

Helaena wasn't a dreamer

Aemma died in a bit different way

Age gap between Alicent and Rhaenyra was bigger, Alicent had a beef with a child

Different narration for sure

Rhaenyra never slept with Criston

Laena didn't die by getting burned, she died in childbirth

Rhaenys and Meleys never interrupted corporation

The crowd was cheering for Rhaenyra, not Aegon

Viserys was actively preparing Rhaenyra to be an heir

Rhaenyra was a badass

Criston convinced Aegon to take the crown that's why his alias is "Kingmaker"

Thank you nonnie!!!

Alicent having beef with a child, iconic 😭😭😭

Not Daemyra related but…

this fandom keeps getting on my nerves so I decided to speak my truth

Elinda Massey ♡

Rhaenyra’s only friend I acknowledge.