I Feel Like The Line That Writers Are Not Willing To Cross When It Comes To Bruce And Gordons Relationship

i feel like the line that writers are not willing to cross when it comes to bruce and gordon’s relationship is allowing either of them to reach the natural conclusion of recognizing the system as permanently rotted, but esp gordon bc he is within the heart of it. while not perfect i wouldn’t entirely mind gordon trying to fix the system from within if it led him to a realization that he realistically cannot do that (because even if he helps change individual people, the system that benefits and facilitates their inclinations towards senseless violence is still there) and so pursuing other means or avenues of justice is what he should move towards instead. i understand writers maintain bruce’s connection to gordon as a sort of in to crime scenes and the upper echelons of gotham society etc but the more i think about it the more i question why having this in is even necessary when bruce has barbara. if she can hack and gain access to things at a federal level then what’s stopping her from doing the same at a municipal level? not to mention the way bruce’s social network expands over the years should allow him more access to the spheres he’s trying to infiltrate 

i just don’t think gordon is a character whose position as commissioner should be seen as viable or worth maintaining in the long term and to me not just bruce but the batman mythos in general would benefit more from centering people like leslie thompkins as important allies instead. before war games leslie was a beacon of bruce’s inclinations towards philanthropy and was constantly used to emphasize that while bruce understood he needed to use violence now he didn’t want that to be the case forever and was in agreement with leslie on working towards a day where vigilantes like him would no longer be needed. leslie could theoretically be an avenue through which to move bruce towards embracing a more abolitionist stance than is already subtly implied by the dedication he has towards investing in charities and trying to help uplift financially disadvantaged communities in gotham and if their relationship with and respect of each other was more valued by comic writers rather than mutilated to create empty lecturing points for bruce than we could return to a more hopeful bruce and a more hopeful batman in general 

Leslie smiled at that, proud of him for doing so well. People often forgot how difficult education was for children and underestimated the effect it could have. But it didn't feel like an issue at the moment.

She nodded, adding a note to her book, tilted just out of Jason's line of sight. "Excellent. And how about the journaling task I set you last week? How have you found it?"

Hel–Heck yeah.“

Jason smirked, opening his can of coke. ’‘I told you, doc; being Robin is the best thing that ever happened to me. I can do good. Batman needs me.”

It had earned more than a few notes down in his journal. He was good enough, he was earning his keep as Robin and as Jason. All their worries… he was good. Even Barbara had said so.

'Batman needs me.'

There was a weight to Jason excited revelation. But not one that she was going to dive in with to start off. "Im glad things went how you wanted them to Jason." It was worth pointing out the good. Noticing positives.

She wondered if he had kept to filling in the journal she had given him in all of the excitement.

"How about the rest of your week outside of the cape. The book report going well?"

Hel–Heck yeah.“

Jason smirked, opening his can of coke. ’‘I told you, doc; being Robin is the best thing that ever happened to me. I can do good. Batman needs me.”

It had earned more than a few notes down in his journal. He was good enough, he was earning his keep as Robin and as Jason. All their worries… he was good. Even Barbara had said so.

Happy Mother’s Day To All The Foster Mothers

You have one of the most important under appreciated jobs in the world.

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And Jason couldn’t help it.

He scoffed.

“Jason Todd is worth nothing compared to Robin,” he bit back, fury and shame burning bright in his gut. “He had to resort to crime to make it through the winter. He scrounged his meals from dumpsters. As Robin, as Bruce’s partner, I can make a difference, both for myself and for the city. Why would want to ‘just’ be Jason Todd, when I can be so much more?”

Leslie was calm, unflinching, allowing Jason to snarl, the self loathing in his voice ringing out clearly.

"Well that's just the thing. Isn't it? Jason Todd had to do those things. If he had been given a choice? An alternative. If things had been different? Would he have done the same thing if given another chance?

Discreetly, Leslie caught the time on her wristwatch and fought against the urge to sigh. They were just starting to get into it...

"I have a challenge for you. If you think you're up to it." She allowed just a hint of doubt into her voice in an attempt to goad him slightly.