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Im Getting Kinda Annoyed How They Keep Not Addressing The Growing Power Imbalance Between Ladybug And

I’m getting kinda annoyed how they keep not addressing the growing power imbalance between Ladybug and Chat Noir, setting aside Personal feelings, Ladybug is now in charge of the miraculous and the duo but has been making unilateral decisions that effect both of them and has been growing more and more liberal with making decisions for people, trying to take Chat Noir’s identity in ephemeral without his consent being the most egregious example. I understand why she does this and the narrative always makes it clear that she does these for a reason but they refuse to address it head on.

Chat Noir is not being treated as a partner that he’s called his consent and agreement assumed instead of acquired. This isn’t just a personal issue and even with minor things like retrieving the miraculous Ladybug’s automatic response in to keep Chat out of it even when it’s inconvenient to do so like when she snapped at him when he offered to collect the Miraculous.

Obviously the best time to address this is the season finale but it’s worrying that so far this has been subtext instead of being talked about. He’s being treated as a employee instead of partner.

This is not Ladybug salt by the by while ill conceived Marinette’s actions are always shown to come from a reasonable place.

Yeah, this is one of the main points of contention I've seen about Kuro Neko so far. Not what it's done, but what it DIDN'T do. It addressed the whole "Chat Noir feeling left out and shunted aside" issue, and showed that Ladybug DOES care about his feelings, though she has trouble grasping his mindset. But it didn't really address the inequality between them, or all the secrets Ladybug's been keeping, or like you said, the whole consent issue. (Still trying to figure out why she was so snappy with Chat Noir about him retrieving some of the Miraculous...)

I guess a lot of it comes down to whether this is the start of the healing process for Ladynoir, or the end of it. If this is the end of it, then yeah, it's really not enough as it doesn't address a lot of the core incidents that led to relations breaking down between them in the first place. It addresses some of Adrien's deep emotional concerns - not being wanted or needed - but not the incidents that led to him feeling like he isn't wanted or needed anymore, or even trusted at all (beyond Ladybug just being able to call on heroes to fill in for him). There's a fear that'll be like Hack-san, in that the secrets will be smoothed over just by Ladybug affirming that she cares for Chat, without there being any actual change in their dynamic - something that helped in the moment, but we saw how well that held up, with Rocketear taking place next episode.

If it's the BEGINNING of healing the Ladynoir Conflict, I think that it works. It deals with the biggest emotional hurdles between them, some of the core conflicts, so hopefully they can actually talk things out later. But that will depend on whether there IS a "later".

I'm enjoying Kuro Neko right now, especially with Marinette finding out that Chat IS badly affected by things, and showing that she does care about Chat's feelings and wants HIM, not just a Black Cat Holder - he's her friend. Plus, Adrien got some development and went through some self-discovery about who HE is, about his identity crisis. But there does need to be more than that, and a fundamental shift in the way their partnership functions, to bring it back to something a little more equitable. Chat Noir being kept in the loop at least.

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About the interview Max thing, I agree that it’s very possible that the name wasn’t “Max” at all, and that someone more major is messing up SM’s plans, but I, like anon, also love Max so I had another idea. Winny said that Bunnyx will show up in s4, and so will a new character from the future. It’s most likely that she’ll show up in the finale at this point, so who’s this new character that we haven’t seen yet either? I really hope think that it might be Max, who is one of Alix’s closest friends and very useful as a superhero. I mentioned this in a post I made where I referenced yin-yang pairs, and I currently have a draft to expand on those, but I think the rabbit and horse are a pair. Now this may be absolute crack or my own fanfic-like wants, but man I’d love it if they really said “Max” and it wasn’t just him, but him from Bunnyx’s time.

tbh i’d really prefer the secondary heroes don’t get a lot of screentime in the finale. give me rena, give me fĂ©lix, give me drama, but most of all give me ladybug & chat noir against the world, a duo.

i‘m not super interested in this “character from the future“ thing, assuming it is true. if it happens that’s cool but i prefer to mostly speculate on the characters we already know


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