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So I Read A "post" Saying Sansa Running WF Successfully Is Ooc. I Disagree. Sansa's The Defacto Lady
So I read a "post" saying Sansa running WF successfully is ooc. I disagree. Sansa's the defacto lady of the Vale and she's doing a good job. Besides innately being smart she's also getting training for being a lady,administrator, diplomat and in politics. She has natural acumen for organization,logistics,hardwork,knows how to run a household well She's learning to gauge others' motivation&how to maneuver them successfully. Also she'll have advisors to help her. I see her as a very successful 1/2
ruler/Lady of WF or when ruling the North/looking after its daily workings/governing/managing it; I dont think it’s ooc for Sansa to be a capable ruler/administrator/and dispatch the duties that come w/ being Lady of WF/looking after the North at all. That’s where her book arc&training montage is leading her. What do you think? 2/2
In short, I largely agree with you.
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Hi, one thing I’ve never understood is why everyone thinks sansa is better at being a lady than Arya when Arya is better at the important stuff like managing a household? Because “the womanly arts” are basically just hobbies right? Not that there’s anything wrong with being good at that but surely the actual job of being a lady is something different, and something Arya is better at according to the text?
Okay. Oh man. Anon, I believe you didn’t mean anything by it, but I am wincing and wincing hard.
1. We should not be doing Arya vs Sansa bullshit. (Or indeed female character vs female character bullshit in general.) The direct comparison people kept making between Arya and Sansa is, canonically, one of the things that was most hurtful to Arya! The solution is not to start saying “well, actually, Arya’s better than Sansa at XYZ.” The solution is to realise that both have important, valid skillsets, each has different weaknesses, and that comparing them against each other doesn’t actually make those skillsets better or do a damn thing to offset their respective weaknesses. As Ned told Arya:
“Sansa is your sister. You may be as different as the sun and the moon, but the same blood flows through both your hearts. You need her, as she needs you…”
- Arya II, AGoT
That is, ditch the competitive, zero-sum outlook, and adopt a view that they are complementary.
2. “the important stuff,” “just hobbies”
Again, I do not believe you meant anything by it, anon, but this is exactly how the contribution of women to various spheres of accomplishment gets minimised. It’s not important. It’s just a hobby. That phrasing inherently devalues both the talent and the skill involved in being good at the various “womanly arts,” and its value both in and of itself and as support to other pursuits.
Being able to create art or entertainment or use soft skills is important, yeah? I mean, what are we doing here on tumblr if not appreciating someone’s ability to write? A shout out for everyone who puts effort into their writing or their arts or their music or their cooking, for everyone who’s learned how to keep a conversation going or a party entertaining. That was effort! People who do this for their living are working.
Furthermore, one of the best things about Sansa’s presence in the plot, and about her training montage parallel to Arya and Bran, is the implied statement that Sansa’s soft skills are as worthy of training and as significant in their way as Bran’s magic skills and Arya’s intelligence-gathering and combat skills. The narrative is making the effort to demonstrate the importance and utility of her skills. I don’t think this should be written off as “just” anything.
3. The job of being a lady is more than bookkeeping.
Being able to manage accounts is one part of the job, for sure. It’s not the whole of the job. The lady is responsible for keeping the business of the house running - which also means significant managerial responsibilities and significant social duties.
In Alayne I, AFFC we see Sansa actually doing some running of a household, and that involves making sure there are enough provisions for guests and unexpected extras, making sure that rooms are cleaned, furnished, heated, and lit, dealing with all the staff required to accomplish this, and then greeting those guests impeccably (including studying who they are and dressing appropriately for the occasion) and ensuring they receive all the refreshments she’s had prepared. In Alayne II, we see a bit more of how she’s required to deal with the castle staff and Sweetrobin himself. None of this required her to do any sums.
The bigger the castle, the more management the lady in question has to do just to keep the place habitable. On top of anything she has to do in order to facilitate the politics that take place in said castle. A lady who can’t do much in the way of sums, but who can and does use soft skills and manage people effectively, is still doing an important part of managing a household.
So, to answer something that is not quite your question, people think Sansa is good at managing a household because we have seen her manage a household and she is good at it.