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WOY FANDOM PSA: protect yourself from possible fetish mining
Familiarize yourself with what fetish mining is so you can recognize the warning signs and avoid being exploited by people who do this. If you ever feel uncomfortable with something, trust your gut and know that you're never obligated to go along with anything you don't really want to, especially if anything about it feels "off."
This is stuff everybody should be aware about, but I'm making this PSA specifically for the woy fandom because we've had an ongoing problem with somebody in the fandom who very much appears to be fetish mining. This user is VERY active & outgoing in the fandom and they constantly send people fanart—and try to get people to draw them the same kind of fanart—that has the recurring theme of tentacles/bondage, yandere, & characters sweating/shaking in fear.
This is not to shame people for having weird interests or even fetishes. The issue with behavior like this, if the fixation is a fetish, is leading people into creating or engaging with fetish content without their informed consent, which is exploitative (and can even count as sexual harassment, if not worse.)
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The user being discussed in this post is wanderfan2000. I am NOT naming her to get her shamed/harassed - if you send any hate and harassment her way, you're an absolute dirtball. I am only naming her because there are serious & credible allegations of inappropriate behavior (suspected fetish mining) on her part, so I want for people to be able to exercise caution around her!
For additional background: wanderfan2000 is known for constantly talking to people about her obsession with The Lonely Planet, and for being fixated with Wander being wrapped up in Planet Janet's vines or in any situation that makes him visibly anxious/terrified (e.g. she also has a thing for depictions of Wander being hunted by the Phantomines from The Heebie Jeebies.) She also goes to people who she knows are underage to ask them to discuss or draw these things for her...
A minor she's interacted with in this way sent me the following messages & screenshots and asked that I share them under the condition that I keep their account name censored for their protection. This person is underage and was still approached by wanderfan2000 to draw what we're afraid was a thinly-veiled request for fetish art. Here are the testimonies I've been asked to share:
(The context behind me getting this ask is that I made a post the other day talking about how scared I was that a certain "somebody" - I was nervous to name her at the time because part of me still wanted to give benefit of the doubt - was an active fetish miner in the fandom. After seeing my post, they came into my inbox to share their experience with wanderfan2000 and the disconcerting interactions they've had with her.)
Their interactions with wanderfan2000:
TW for suspected fetish mining / sexual harassment of a minor in the next screenshot:
I don't have any other screenshots because, quite frankly, I don't have the stomach to hunt down additional evidence, but I've also witnessed wanderfan2000 hitting up fans of all ages to engage in roleplays with her, which, even if she keeps her roleplays on here 100% G-rated, is a huge red flag in and of itself bc she likes to RP stuff about Wander and Janet/yanderes, which are the very things she's suspected of fetish mining for. Either way, it's evident that she doesn't establish boundaries for interacting with underage fans bc she discusses & requests the same things from them that she does with adults, which is not safe.
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The only person who can know for a fact whether or not wanderfan2000 was fetish mining people for her own gratification is wanderfan2000 herself. (Once again, DO NOT HARASS WANDERFAN2000 OVER THIS.) Sometimes it's easy to figure out whether or not this is going on, and sometimes, due to the nature of it relying entirely on plausible deniability, it can be incredibly hard to tell if someone is fetish mining. I can't speak for her intentions, but I will say that wanderfan2000's art posts and patterns of behavior show major signs of her having a fetish. So on that note, if you feel that wanderfan2000 or anyone else is fetish mining people, DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM. DO NOT SEND THEM HATE MAIL OR OTHERWISE HARASS THEM. SIMPLY BLOCK/IGNORE THEM. Warn anyone you think they might be taking advantage of, if need be, and leave it at that. Don't be afraid to block or say no to somebody who's making you feel uncomfortable online - and I don't just mean in these types of contexts. Again, your safety should always come first, and if you ever get a bad feeling about someone or about a situation, you have no obligation to tough it out if your gut is telling you something's wrong! It's always okay to disengage. You ALWAYS have the right to say you're uncomfortable with something.
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wanderfan2000's response:
Wanderfan2000 made a post in response to the original PSA warning about her behavior, and we talked about what the problem was in the post replies. I didn't get any screenshots of her individual replies to me on there because she kept deleting and rewriting them each time I added a new point, but there is another post, here, where we talked some more in the notes; you can look there for more of her comments. I'm sharing this because I think it's important for people to know that she's acknowledged the allegations, shared her side, and promised to fix her behavior so she doesn't cause people harm. The decision to believe her side of the story and trust that she'll be mindful of others going forward is up to each of you, and the choice to accept her apology is solely up to the people she's hurt.
!["Now, lemme talk about my art work of Wander and Janet:"
[Beneath this is a picture of one of wander fan 2000's drawings of Wander and Janet. Wander is in the center of the drawing and takes up most of the image. He is drawn from the waist up and is against a solid olive background. He has an anxious, fearful expression on his face. His pupils are pinpricks, his eyes have stress lines around them, and his left eye is twitching/squinting. His brows are also furrowed in worry, and a wobbly grimace is stretched across his face. Five of Janet's vines are reaching in from "off-screen." Two of them reach down from above and are wrapped around Wander's wrists and are holding them halfway out from his body. Two more vines reach over from the area in front of him (or from the viewer's POV) and stroke Wander's head and face. There are two sweatbeads on his face where each of the vines are touching him. The fifth vine reaches in from the top left corner of the drawing and is either touching his hat or is in the process of moving towards his face. End image desc.]
Beneath the photo, wander fan 2000's post goes on to say the following:
"One thing I’d like to point out that whenever I draw Wander and Janet together nowadays, I draw them as Forever Friends. Because I like to think that Janet enjoys loving over Wander as a friend rather than trying to force him to love her. NTM, she has Maurice as her husband now.
Now I understand that a lot of folks aren’t fans of the whole “plant vines tying around Wander’s wrists ofc, many of them aren’t fan of the vines touching his face ether”."](https://64.media.tumblr.com/5d874440466e1dfb941ab3dbd9feca04/b1ae95bcfdec2b89-44/s640x960/5b0e5b52cc43f73aa8ea1d8627307ffacc5096f4.jpg)
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Apologies for how long this post has gotten, but hopefully this can help people inform themselves on how to stay safe from fetish mining and other forms of explotative behavior online. Maybe this can even bring awareness to people who might be engaging in similar behaviors so they can self-reflect and stop themselves from potentially victimizing anybody, too. Remember that being mindful of other people's comfort and consent is ALWAYS important.
Stay safe, everybody.
Trying to find a rain world post showing the initial concept art of vultures on a white background and I can't find it anywhere
They look all loopy and there's cool perspectives and their wings don't look like wings as much as limbs with flesh tendrils attached and I just want to use it as a reference :'(
@wanderloveshater Happy birthday!! Hope you're ready for some #skeletondance
The first month or so of their relationship! Hater gains confidence over time, while Wander suddenly doesn't know how to handle him taking the lead! He's only ever flirted as a temporary distraction before...
They get the hang of things eventually. :)
Thank you for clearing this up for me! I'm a little sad that Flowey isn't with Toriel or Frisk, but Papyrus is still an excellent role model for him! It's probably better that he takes improvement at his own pace.
Given that the winter clock dialogue shows Flowey on the surface living with Frisk and their found family (unsure of actual living arrangements but assuming he lives with Frisk and Toriel), how do you think a REAL "yes, I used to be Asriel" conversation would come about?
The winter dialogue does have Toriel acknowledge him as "Asriel", but she was black-out drunk at the time so her thought process/memory in this case is debatable.
She has at least noticed key similarities between Asriel and Flowey, but even if she knows the truth there's nothing to suggest she's brought it up while sober.
I'm more interested in the prospect of a thoughtful conversation between the two after the fact. It seems kind of inevitable if Flowey is spending the rest of his life on the surface, but how would it go?
Would an uncomfortable Flowey have to deal with an emotional reunion? Would Toriel have a better understanding of his boundaries due to more recent shared experiences? How shocked would she be that a part of her first ever child was with her once again?
I'm absolutely positive that she would share custody with Asgore after it's out in the open, even if she isn't completely comfortable with it. Not sure how Sans would feel about things since it's pretty clear he's killed before, but a judge can't really do their job without the whole truth. Maybe he'd be willing to hear him out?
not sure where you're getting the "they're co-living and it's canon" from, flowey isn't shown to be living with toriel, neither is frisk mentioned in any of the dialogues. I'm assuming the implication here is that frisk IS the reader, and that ambiguity allows for both the "i want to stay with you" and "i have places to go" endings. we know flowey's not secluded to the RUINs anymore as was his original plan, and we know he's kept in contact with papyrus, who's trying to introduce him to the others (although unsuccessfully so far), but nothing more than that.
as for toriel, I don't think her calling him asriel was either intentional or rational. I think it was a subconscious expression of the ""true"" reason she's holed herself up in the RUINs trying to save the fallen humans. if a froggit happened to hop by at that moment, she would've done the same to it.
flowey/asriel reveal, huh? hm... let's see. to be honest, i don't think flowey would ever come clean about either his identity or his crimes to anyone else, especially not his old family. not of his own volition, that is. i could see some kind of indiscretion happening that causes him to reveal it on accident, but he would bolt it out of there as soon as he realized his cover was blown. he doesn't like confronting his issues! subsequent conversation attempts with him would be extremely emotionally immature and hard to get through, as the situation would temporarily undo some of his progress after leaving the underground as a trauma response. toriel... wouldn't be doing well either. super messy situation. no one is happy with this
the custody thing is really funny to me. mostly because i find the idea of trying to explain to a lawyer that you need to amend your divorce settlement bc you didn't know you had an undead son absolutely hilarious. but also because flowey would go out of his way to contradict it and do whatever he wants out of spite
Some more art I drew on @carlyraejepsans whiteboard! This really helped me get back in an artistic mood, so thank you to anyone who has participated! Here's a bunch of wholesome/emotional drawings 🥺
Drawing on @carlyraejepsans white board! You can tell which ones are mine due to the sketchiness lol
(I've also mostly been drawing Flowey)
Here are some of my pieces!
(Ones with Chara in them are mine in this one)
Just a little unwind time for our favorite hippie-cowboy! ☺️
—UPDATE—
If marijuana even has negative effects on perfectly healthy people, this is super pure-no-crazy-strain-alt-reality space weed so NO IT DOESN’T. The end 😂
how close are u to finishing your next skeletondance fic chapter
Honestly? Been going through some major family issues rn so I shelved it for a bit.
I tend to only post my fics when I've completed them due to stuff like this, but I decided to post two chapters early when I probably shouldn't have.
I'm not sure when the next chapter will be out, but I do work on it in my down time. I might post a snippet later...
I wanted to apologize on behalf of a friend of mine, the “roleplay” blog you had a disagreement with. I wanted to let you know that he doesnt run a roleplay blog, he’s fictionkin so he quite literally was The Lamb in a past life so that’s part of why he had gotten so heated. I’m fully aware it isn’t an excuse and in no way am I condoning his actions, in fact I quite largely disagree with the way he acted towards you.
I hope you’re doing well and that your holiday, if you celebrate one today, was well and good regardless of the interaction. Have a wonderful timezone.
No worries! I was honestly just worried I might have seriously upset him. I hope you have a happy holiday season.
A little confuses at the moment... Pretty sure I just got blocked by a roleplay blog that wasn't happy about the new COTL art.
I made a joke about how the devs can sometimes wreck headcanons and art blogs kinda have to cope any way they can, but I made sure to note that even though the devs make content about Narilamb, it isn't the "official couple"; you don't have to like it! That'd defeat the whole point of marrying who you want!
I mistook their argument that Narilamb wasn't possible in "their world" as a debate over why some people like it at all, to which I tried to give some reasons as to why, as well as an explanation about COTL's references to various things in mythology since they claimed Christianity wasn't present at all and the art made no sense.
I then realized it was a roleplay blog, apologizing for trying to explain dev stuff/themes and misunderstanding the post. They responded in character, to which I decided to play along (to lighten the mood) and ask if I was going to be sacrificed for speaking such heresy, to which they replied that sacrifices were honorable and that they could just murder me. I then said I'd stay awake so that they couldn't murder me without losing faith.
Then they blocked me.
I'm not sure if they blocked me because I crossed a line/was too rude, to continue being in character, or if they were just mad I was ruining their RP or something.
Not really looking to get anything out of this, just thought it was an interesting experience. I won't mention who it is by name and if they do end up reading this, I'm sorry if I seriously upset you.
Merry crism I guess
Hiya, Do you draw stuff?
Yeah, not sure if I'll take any more requests at the moment though. I might, but I'm kinda going through a block right now.
Do you have other ships asides from the main five (including Dom) and main x side characters?
I don't really have any main x side characters, but Drakor and Demurra will always be the best side couple in the show!
wander and hater smooching
Coral blue #2 semigloss lipstick
So, who is #1 on your WOY hitlist?
Dominator, simply because she's genocidal lol. They didn't redeem her for a reason!
Don't get me wrong, I love her character! I just know she deserves to die more than anyone else.
ID 1000 and 1001 for any of those curious btw, thank you for answering 👍
Has anyone ever tried to use the find ID mod to get the numbers for Artificers pups so we can spawn them?
The following rant was sponsored by comments on this post.
Wander can absolutely pull anyone he wants, from any moral ideology, at any time. The thing is though, he has a very different set of expectations regarding his own love life compared to others.
When it comes to other people's relationships, Wander is absolutely overjoyed to set things up for them! Seeing two people in love is one of the most beautiful things in the galaxy to him, though that's because he buys too much into the "romanticization" of relationships commonly found in the media.
He sees love as this perfect and unbending thing that must always result in a happy ending. He ignores Drakor and Demurra's good advice about communication in favor of yelling out his idea of living happily ever after while expressing the fact they "kinda sorta saved a princess." Wander is completely sold into the idea that romantic love is the ultimate relationship in a person's life.
This might explain why he and Sylvia appear adamant on staying single.
I've noticed that some people confuse Wander being a complex character with being inconsistent; so in order to sum up why someone so insistent on relationships being the solution to everyone's problems doesn't consciously pursue one of his own, I'm gonna put a few bullet points down.
- Wander loves to butt into other people's business but he leaves them alone at the end of the day once he sees they've been helped; he does not drag people with him unless they ask/want to come (Sylvia was alone as a bounty hunter and wanted to learn to be better after she got along with Wander: she chose to stay).
- Wander's lifespan is HUUUUGE! Most of the people he meets are gonna die WAY before he does and that is not something anyone in a romantic relationship wants to deal with.
- Contrary to popular belief, this man does not understand women as well as people think he does. He considers the heart of a lady "a mysterious thing that scientists have wrestled with for years." He plays the stereotypical sexy blonde whenever he decides to crossdress, though this is mostly just to work on villains. He was quick to think that Dominator being a girl was really the only thing that he needed to know on her end of getting her and Hater together (this has an extra layer I'll dive into later). Now I'm not trying to say that he's sexist or anything, that is nowhere even CLOSE to being true. He does, however, have a tendency to frame women as "the love interest" given what he knows about romance. This doesn't work in favor for his OWN love life though, because:
- Wander is really flarping gay. Not even a question. We've only ever seen him flirt with men, it's mostly been with Hater, and he expressed clear disinterest or fear when women hit on him (btw I feel like people don't talk nearly enough about how Janet tried to assault him? And how her moon was made from her body so he's basically her son??? Seriously, flarp Janet. All my homies hate Janet. #2 on my WOY hit list). Considering his pairing habits rely on disney-esc fairytale logic, he might not have that great of an idea on how to set himself up with a guy he isn't looney-tooning the shit out of. (No, I don't think he's aro because he genuinely does get flustered/interested at certain points of the series, but I totally understand if you headcanon him that way).
- He might be worried that a new romantic relationship could overtake the special bond he has with Sylvia, even though this would never happen and his relationship with Sylvia transcends any notion of this because of how special it is. With his logic though, he might feel like finding love would mean replacing his best friend...
That pretty much explains how he values relationships differently. I could continue this rant and go into how he was so obsessed with the idea of Hater dating Dominator by imagining himself in Dominator's place, and how I have tangible proof of that across pretty much half of the entire season, but idk if you guys wanna hear me go on a tangent about skeletondance lol. Thank you for reading.
Wander is the ultimate rizz master, like how’d he get the car? Where from? How did he convince that lady to accompany him? You know it was just so easy for him, i mean look at him. ABSOLUTE STUD.
Has anyone ever tried to use the find ID mod to get the numbers for Artificers pups so we can spawn them?
Got an idea for an Artificer redemption AU... It gets pretty dark. I feel like a lot of people forget that slugcats and the ancients aren't the only organic creatures that go through unending cycles...
https://www.tumblr.com/2194teddy/732636242795200512/my-giant-nomad-oc-based-on-wander-over-yonder
Do you like my WOY OC?
It's pretty cool! I'm not personally a huge fan of nomad OCs because Wander's species might be functionally extinct, but this sounds interesting.
I've seen all your previous messages, and I advise you not to ask multiple times in a row. I always get to messages eventually, so please don't spam me. Thank you!
Some interactions between Artificer, Survivor and Monk!
The surprise adoption of these strange "pups" went pretty smoothly in Artificer's eyes, but for the almost completely mature siblings... It was a confusing time.
My Arti is very large, almost double the size of average scugs! Necessary for taking down prey. The vanilla siblings on the other hand are still adolescents, and won't grow past the height of her chest.
(Haven't played the full game yet, still haven't gotten to sky islands so please don't spoil the game.)
So I decided to go back to Moon after I got the ability to understand speech, and I don't know how to get back to The Wall from here.
Is there a way to climb back up the wall from the starting area if I go back through the citadel or do I have to go back to 5 pebbles? I don't wanna go back there man, I'm pretty sure he'll kick my ass if he sees me again-
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reblog and make a wish! this was removed from tumbrl due to “violating one or more of Tumblr’s Community Guidelines”, but since my wish came true the first time, I’m putting it back. :)