This May Sound Weird But, Vader Is A Toxic Person In The Movies Mainly To Luke But If They Could (and

This may sound weird but, Vader is a toxic person in the movies mainly to Luke but if they could (and would have) have the kind of father-son relationship that I like mostly as equal characters Vader — characters so emotionally distant and no longer have faith, but slowly learn to have it again with the arrival of a person who changes their life, learning to love but still afraid to show it

Maybe that doesn't make sense but let me explain

Vader is that famous character (and villain) cold and emotionally distant, even elusive. But in rotj there are times when Vader is *kind* to Luke, not directly, but Vader in the hallway scene tries to dissuade Luke from his idea of ​​kindness, he doesn't insult him or fight with him, just talk; when he says luke seems to think like obi-wan he turns around, there's no kind of anger there and even though he lights the lightsaber afterwards, he never points directly at luke

I can't analyze all the scenes, but right after Anakin's return to the light, Luke is constantly touching him, holding his hand and hugging him, and Vader lets... He doesn't run away from the touch, he just lets Luke hold it In his final moments, he claims that Luke saved him and even though he is crying from the pain he feels, he still smiles at his son. There was no need even, but he smiled, Vader smiled at his son because HE wanted it, not to manipulate or just mock him, but simple and silent, loving the son he never knew but learned to love

Vader doesn't touch Luke because they aren't close enough to show affection, but Vader's actions (albeit wrong) show he cares for his boy. He's spent years looking for him, as the comics show so well, he could just hunt the boy down and kill him, but he leaves the reward as barely alive, and he doesn't want Luke hurt (even if he hurts him himself)

In rotj shows Vader's deep love for Luke, we're inserted into that fight and we feel the conflict there, Vader hates himself and at some point he gave up on the idea of ​​Luke becoming a Sith, because maybe that makes Luke like him, and he doesn't want Luke to turn into a monster

There are little gestures of love right there that we have to dig through layers until we find, Vader loved Luke deeply and gave up everything for him, in a simple but fatherly act. In his final moments, Vader wasn't a commander, Sith Lord, Ex-Jedi or a monster, he was a *father*. He put his life and his desires to corner and prioritized Luke's, because that's what a father does

Vader is a cold and violent character, but in small moments and almost non-existent with his love for Luke there, a small thing that turns into something luminous and loving

Vader really loved his son and cared for him. Luke is Padmé's son, but also his. Not because it's his obligation, but because he loved that child since he found out about it two decades ago and that love came back so strong but invisibly years and years later

Maybe that's my delusion, but characters like Vader who are so humanly distant but learn to love are my favorites

“You found me! Oh, Geralt! I was waiting all that time! For so very long… We’ll be together now, won’t we? Now we’ll be together, won’t we? Say it, Geralt! Forever! Say it!”

“Forever, Ciri.”

“It’s like they said! Geralt! It’s like they said! Am I your destiny? Say it! Am I your destiny?”

Yurga saw the Witcher’s eyes. And was very astonished. He looked at the Witcher and waited, tensed, for his answer. He knew he would not understand it, but he waited for it. And heard it.

“You’re more than that, Ciri. Much more.”

[The Witcher, 1.08 “Much More” Original Script // The Sword of Destiny by Andrzej Sapkowski]

I lost Gwen. She was my MJ. I couldn’t save her.

i need less "happy, fluffy cinnamon roll" luke skywalker and more "raised in the ass-end of nowhere with spiders 4ft across who used to shoot rats the size of saint bernards for fun, who at 19 killed one million people in a single shot and just happens to be really optimistic for a guy who is a guerilla fighter and a space revolutionary"

we could be talking about how anakin in revenge of the sith faces a similar reality to the one that he forces luke to face in the empire strikes back, where anakin discovers that the opposition that he has been so doggedly fighting against, the sith that he’s destined to destroy, is actually someone he loves like his own family, the same way luke does. we could be talking about that. we could be digging our teeth into the meat of it. we could be talking about what it means that vader threatens leia’s safety in return of the jedi to get luke to go absolutely off the shits, and how it’s because vader remembers being exactly where luke was, and knowing what drove him to make the wrong choice - the threat to someone he loved. we could be having fun, but no one here can decide that false surrender is still pretty shitty even if space doesn’t have defined war crimes, in addition to not having underwear, so none of us can really be trusted to actually shoot the shit on the cool stuff