I Think What Gets Me About This Post And The Snow/Regina Relationship Is How Very Human They Are. Both

I think what gets me about this post and the Snow/Regina relationship is how very human they are.  Both are driven by their own selfish goals, desires, and emotions.  One finds it easier to lie, to pretend that these selfish wants are in fact selfless.  I get this.  I, too, experience discomfort at the idea of admitting to someone else that I truly do not care about them except as a vehicle for my wants.  A puppet for my pleasure.  I also understand Regina's motivations.  I have been hurt enough to want someone else to feel my pain.  This is a trap as even when they do feel pain it is never my pain they feel.  You cannot make another care.  They either chose to or not.  

There are however two things that I do not understand about these scenes.  Firstly, why did Regina even give Snow a choice?  Could she not have let Charming die and lie to Snow about her having a choice?  If she wanted to cause Snow pain she did not need to give her an out.  I do not think Regina is so dumb that she did not realize that a) Charming was Snow's True Love and b) the sleeping curse could be broken by True Love's Kiss.  She's a badass Witch, she knows more about magic than a man raised to herd sheep.  She picked Charming because he was Snow's True Love.  Regina also knows how it feels to know your love is dead.  It's been her driving emotion for a number of years by then.  There's also this idea that Regina was a heartless murderer.  Yet instead of ripping out Snow and Charming's hearts, letting one or both of them die, or killing them she sets this choice up.  And it truly was a choice.  

Secondly, why did Snow pretend to give Regina a choice?  Could she not have just crushed Cora's heart and let Rumple live or not based on actions Hook (and not Snow) took?  Was the thought of facing a disappointed ten year old boy too much for her?  Or did she want Regina to know what it was like to have mother who loves her only to see her mother die and the man who owned her live?  This, more than any of her actions, shows me that Snow fundamentally does not respect Regina.  She dangles a pretty lie in front of her knowing that either Regina makes the 'right' choice and loses her mother or makes the 'wrong' choice and loses her mother.  Even the 'right' choice was a lie.  Consider the infamous about them not needing to tell Regina about Henry.  Yet she expects Regina to believe that making the 'right' will suddenly make Henry part of her family again.  Snow doesn't just lie about Regina's mother, she lies about the only two people Regina loves.  And it's neatly packaged as Regina's responsibility, after all it is her 'choice'.

1.21 “if you refuse the apple, your Prince, your Charming, will be killed. As I said, the choice is yours” 2.16 “Imagine real love. You’d have a mother and a start on making a family Henry could be part of. Or you could have her be the dark one. The choice is yours.” suggested by rickmantic

What if there were no long lasting consequences?  How many times would she have hurt/injured/killed people knowing that the next day everyone and everything would be reset?  Do her conversations with people also 'undo' themselves?  How long could she remain sane and aware of reality when stuck in an endless 'groundhog day' loop?

The Curse and Consequences

Welcome to Storybrooke gave me a new perspective on Regina’s relationship with Henry. We saw in the episode that every day in Storybrooke was a loop for Regina; small things could go differently, but everyone was really on a script of sorts. For example, Ruby would argue with Granny every morning, and the argument would revolve around Ruby’s wild-child ways, but it wouldn’t be the exact same words every morning.

If we know that the same scenarios will happen every day, then Regina was essentially living in a consequence-free world. Even when she looked at Archie in disdain and said “Save it,” she knew the next morning Archie would greet her pleasantly all the same. Her words and actions had no lasting effects.

Regina lived this way for eighteen years. For eighteen years, there were no consequences that would last longer than the day’s end. We even saw this with the Kurt and Owen situation. I’m assuming Kurt was locked away, meaning Regina didn’t have to deal with him, and Owen couldn’t get back in the town. Even though Regina’s heart was a little broken from the entire situation, her standing in the town remained in-tact, she received no hard questions about her actions, and it didn’t affect her relationship with any citizen of Storybrooke.

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I just realized someone had to tie Lana to the tree... I retroactively vote JMo.

I’m not sure who made this but I haven’t seen it before. Great gif!

Christmas Wish List / Regina Thoughts

Number 1:

Every time I see Regina make an entrance I keep thinking of the scene in Megamind where Megamind explains to Titan that he may be a villain but he's not super-villain.

Hook/Rumple/Bad Guy: This town isn't big enough for two super-villains!  Regina: Oh, you're a villain all right! Just not a super one!  Hook/etc.: Yeah? What's the difference?  Regina: Presentation!

Number 2:

I keep thinking about two conversations between Rumple and Regina.  The first about how taking someone's heart lets you control them.  I think the words are "control the heart and you control everything".  Then thinking about his conversation with Henry that went "once you control something you need not fear it".  Then I flash to Regina taking Graham's heart, Regina being married to the King, and Regina ordering Graham taken to her bed chambers.  Hmmm...

I couldn't stop myself, so sorry. How do you like them apples?

I often see posts either defending or attacking Regina, and then someone brings up how Rumple is worse than she is, and the other person responds...

At least one of those pairings isn't a pair at all ;)

This is THE strangest picture i have ever seen…. like what?