A Message To Endogenic Systems

A message to endogenic systems

Hello! I know we haven’t posted in awhile, but we wanted to come on here and say I hope you are doing okay!

I also wanted to remind you that the harassment you are facing isn’t your fault.

I know it’s very common for folks to have trauma where they blame themselves for others, we do this too, so we just wanted to come and remind those who need it, that in no way is this your fault. These people cannot get over their bigotries and it’s getting taken out on you.

If you need to, step away for a little bit, make sure you guys are doing alright mentally. If you need to, turn of anonymous asks, (or asks in general) log out of tumblr for a week or two, or whatever you need.

I’m so sorry you guys are facing this right now. No one deserves it.

I'm fairly certain I don't kin yellow lizards but there's something about them that is so delightful to my brain. They're so Friend Shaped and idk why. Is it the antennae? Is it their unique pack nature and cooperation that I find appealing? Is it their nice colors? Idk they're just really neato imo and I just get really pleased when I see one in game.

Maybe it's my brain hinting at a new split or maybe it means nothing at all, who knows.

-Emyr (he/it)

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I know right? It’s so much better for us this way.

Even though I’ve been frontstuck for about a week I’m not afraid or stressed because I know I can tap out if things get too much for me. I’m here by choice and not by force.

It’s very comforting to know you can just take a break whenever you need to and let someone else handle things.

-Emyr (he/it)

we have barely known we're plural for over a year but we already couldn't imagine living in any other way than directly supported by our alters' advice and switching in to directly help. we're more stable than ever before in our life. how could we live for decades with the illusion of being a singlet?! it robbed us of so much cooperation and making up for each others' shortcomings. we have so many less behavioural issues now that we know it's not 'us' us but other specific alters we need to find compromises with

Here's Ableist AspenFrostEN Trying To Pack as Much Misinformation and Ableism As She Can Into One Minute:

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This sentence is, perhaps, the one and only true thing in this entire video.

Oh, please do enlighten me, Aspen!

I mean, sure, created systems are a thing. Tulpas are the main example of this and the ones that have been studied the most. But there are created systems that aren't tulpas, such as in daemonism.

Also, plenty of traumagenic DID systems have intentionally created alters too, so it's weird to make "people who believe that you can force yourself to have alters" an endogenic system thing.

ALSO, basically no tulpagenic system I know actually uses the word "alter" to describe their headmates.

While most endogenic systems are plural without a disorder, it's bizarre to use this as your definition instead of just "an endogenic systems is plural without trauma" as it's actually defined.

Founded entirely on Tumblr???

Aspen, dear...

Are you... capable of reading? Here's the paragraphs you're looking at. Notice how it says natural system predated the word endogenic?

Yes, the word endogenic was first used on Tumblr... as a replacement of "natural system" or "natural multiple" that dated back to the 90s, before you were even born!

Here's one site mentioning natural multiples in their glossary in 2003:

And here's the origin in a page dated for 1998:

You clearly know NOTHING about the plural history that you're rambling on about.

And how am I only 20 second into this???

What do you consider a medical consensus again?

The World Health Organization's ICD-11, the diagnostic handbook used around the world, explicitly states that you can experience multiple "distinct personality states," the characterizing feature of DID according to it, without having a mental disorder:

That's the World Health Organization's official handbook!!!

I'm not sure what more of a consensus you need.

But I'll add that Tulpamancy is acknowledged as a real psychological phenomenon by Dr. Samuel Veissiere, psychiatry professor at McGill University.

And Dr Eric Yarbough, Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association has stated that you can be plural without trauma or a disorder in a book reviewed and published by the American Psychiatric Association.

And these claims are undisputed. There is no peer reviewed paper by any psychiatrist that has claimed you need trauma or a mental disorder to be plural.

Now, onto the next round of misinformation!

I recognize that page! That's DID-research! A glorified blog that convinced an entire generation that OSDD-1a and OSDD-1b were actual medical terms for disorders they could be diagnosed with!

(Spoiler: The aren't!)

Is that so?

It would probably be really inconvenient for this narrative if the creators of the theory of structural dissociation ALSO have said it may be possible people to form self-conscious dissociative parts of the personality without trauma, huh?

I mean, something like that would just completely destroy everything you're trying to sell and make you look even more like a hack who has no idea what she's talking about, wouldn't it?

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This paper is by two of the authors of the Haunted Self, which I probably shouldn't need to tell you since you're so knowledgeable about plurality, is the book that created the theory of structural dissociation of the personality.

Even the creators of the theory you're citing are saying plurality could have other causes.

Wouldn't that require you to actually know what endogenic systems actually believe? Or, you know, literally anything about plural history? Or anything at all? 🤔

Now we're back to ableist Aspen having no idea what Schizophrenia is and using it as an insult. 🙄

Aspen is not hiding her intent. Her goal is to spread hate, to come into our communities and bully us.

Aspen is a liar, a bully and an abuser.

But I hope I've also demonstrated pretty thoroughly that on top of that, she also incredibly ignorant.

She's ignorant of psychiatry. She's ignorant of plural history.

Every word out of her mouth on this topic is a lie she made up, and hopes her followers will be gullible enough to swallow, because while she may act confident in her misinformation, the fact is that she doesn't know anything about what she's talking about.

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