Thelosers-club - I Would Call The Turtle, But The Turtle Couldn't Help Us!

imagine replacing mike's warm idyllic childhood with fried corpses and graphic depictions of sheep murder. imagine how tired i am

imagine replacing mike's warm idyllic childhood with fried corpses and graphic depictions of sheep murder. imagine how tired i am

thoughts on the bill and mike bicycle scene?

OKOKOK lets go, this is a scene i havent always focused on when thinking about mike or bill so this was fun !!

Some things I just generally remember liking or finding interesting was when Mike and Bill were wondering if the club would all return that night, and how Mike had been considering that some of them might silently leave or even die- that part he didn’t voice specifically but that’s just what I had interpreted from the trailing off.

When I was thinking about this I feel if I were Mike I would just continue, because with everything I’d read up to that point it really does seem like there is a higher being and I think at this point Mike very much knows (to some extent) about the turtle, and it’s clear the higher being is on our side and whatever happens is meant to happen. Everything that happened- like Stan dying- was meant to happen, even if we don’t fully know why. And that may also just be because I know the story ends well enough for the losers, but yknow. While I was rereading, a part I noticed a lot was where Bill accidentally sprayed a deck of cards all over the floor and two ace of spades were the only ones facing up on the ground. Which is impossible because it was a brand new deck, which I’ll comment on in a second. In a deck of cards, the ace is the highest card- most powerful, it beats everything, even the king. and i think that this happening was to symbolize how they beat IT once, and they are going to do it again. Also, an ace in Tarot means victory that was achieved through hard work and luck, and along the lines of the last thing I said, I think that could also symbolize that they are going to win, specially through those two things as well. And I think the fact there were two, and the fact that Mike pointed out it was impossible, might also have been to point out that their chances to win were also practically impossible, and they still did!

Later, Mike and Bill are eating, and Bill asks what the phrase he had gotten stuck in his head since he’d seen Silver in the window of the secondhand rose/secondhand clothes. The phrase, if you don’t remember, was “He thrusts his fists against the posts, and still insists he sees the ghosts.” Mike allows Bill to know, and tells him the origin of the phrase, and how Bill’s Mom had taught him it to beat his stutter- and that Bill was always mumbling it to himself, so it seemed he was very determined to please his mother. And in the end, Bill had never been able to do it, but Bill knew he said it, he just could not remember when.

personally to me, Bill not being able to remember just kind of nails in this one theory I have where the Losers really had to revert to their childhood mind a lot in order to defeat Pennywise. Bill could not remember when because he had to do it again at somepoint, and he does. Like when he had yelled it as a kid to ward of Pennywise as Georgie and to ward off his own fear, he yelled it at Pennywise while in the void so he could get that sense of power he’d had back then back, to help get him back in that mindset he’d had when he’d come so close to killing It the last time.

If you guys want to hear me ramble about the mindset theory more please tell me i could go on for days about it :)

all of that was more of a serious analysis, so here’s just what I like and think of the scene in a more light sense.

I do think that this scene was a good kind of connection wink* moment between these two. Like, bonding time between too close buddies.

I’ll add anything more I think of in the comments, but right now thats all I got

(thank you for asking as well!! i like to think about IT and this was a new scene I hadn’t thought about a lot so it was nice to reread and figure out)

*the scene is named Mike Hanlon Makes a Connection, im making a pun here. laugh

imagine replacing mike's warm idyllic childhood with fried corpses and graphic depictions of sheep murder. imagine how tired i am