Two FAce Attorney For DC Gotcha For Gaza! (prompts Closed!) Okay The Prompt Was Just To Draw Two Face

Two FAce Attorney for DC Gotcha for Gaza! (prompts closed!) Okay the prompt was just to draw Two Face but I've had this joke in my mind for so long that I had to draw it heheh

Hey, can you explain to me why so many people call Two-Face "Harv" in fanworks?

I know in a few comics, Two-Face calls Harvey "Harv" but I've never seen it the other way around.

I get the want to give Two-Face a name that isn't.... well, Two-Face, but I've never liked it being "Harv" both because it's a part of Harvey's name and because of what I mentioned above.

The first time that "Two Face" ever receives a name other than TF is in BTAS—in fact, afaik BTAS is the only place he's ever given a name like this—and they call him "Big Bad Harv." Technically, Harvey is the one who names him in therapy so that he can address/talk about "his" darker impulses/violent tendencies, but still. I've never seen BBH used for TF in anything other than BTAS but it stuck around! Most likely in large part because it's the only canon non-TF name we're given. But I think it also appeals to people in the same gimmicky way that "Two Face" does lol (a little cheesy, a little on the nose, but it gets the point across in a fun way).

I do see people who refer to the TF alter exclusively as Big Bad! Though of course most of the time we see people use Harv instead.

But I've also seen fanworks that intentionally give TF/Harv a different name because of the same reasons! I've seen him be called Apollo a few times (because in theory there could be an alter in the Harvey/TF system who resonates with that nickname) and one author—in a phenomenal piece called A Day in Two Lives—named him Alastor, which is the name of a Greek god who represents justice and vengeance (chosen to parallel the Apollo title). I've also seen him named Christopher, which is the name of Harvey's father, because sometimes alters can take on traits of the system's abusers.

I agree that using Harv can be... complicated because it's so tied into Harvey's name/identity. I also don't necessarily think calling him Two Face exclusively is bad in and of itself because in some cases, it's a name he chose for himself and that's a pretty big deal within systems! Especially for non-Host alters. For the most part he seems comfortable with it, so I think it can be assumed it's affirming.

My motivation for using Harv is primarily because I think it's more humanizing than Two Face! As a system, it's nice to see the individuality recognized and I think their distinction can get lost behind "Two Face" sometimes. So I tend to use Two Face for Harvey/Harv the same way you might use Batman for Bruce—as a persona or costume that, in their case, represents their supervillain identity but not who they are "underneath." But ultimately imo as long as the distinction is recognized, the specifics for the names used for both feel less significant!

One question, why don't you lighten up?

Hey, another person answering the TF and MK question cause why not?

MK I know only from the TV show and I like them and their story cause it just feels so compelling, it was incredibly entertaining and the characters just have a lot to give, plus (and this was before I really knew anything about DID) I thought that it was very interesting that they were doing the whole “second personality” thing without making one good and one evil, they just were and that felt like interesting storytelling.

As for Harvey I feel like it’s the tragedy and drama of his story, it’s also compelling and entertaining, it’s got a lot to give. The thing with comics is that pretty much every writer is writing a different version of the character, I haven’t really seen one in which he is portrayed as having DID and while part of what I like about him is the different ways in which you can interpret him, I adore the fandom version in which he does have DID because I feel like it opens the door to such interesting takes on the character, specially when TF isn’t just evil Harvey, and makes the whole Harvey wasn’t a perfect man thing have a lot more weight, plus I also think it would be cool to see the Judge used in other stories.

That’s what I’ve got to say.

Hope you have a good day/night :D

Your point about the canon-ness of TF's DID is something I've definitely thought about! I think I see him canonically diagnosed with schizophrenia more often than with DID. Which is SO WEIRD to me (but also not because it's a very frequent misdiagnosis lol) because even though it's not canonically recognized, CLEARLY that's what most of the writers are going for (using "us/we" pronouns, using two different voices even when written in comics, etc.) but the point about fandoms is so right! One of my favorite parts about the characters I love most is what the fandom is able to do with them and it's definitely cool to see the validity and nuance we (both system and non-system fans) can give them! We get to add the canon backstory and the IRL MH struggles to create an angsty character that knows no bounds lol.

It's definitely a big difference from MK because MK not only canonically has DID but also talks about it OFTEN. It's cool that, even though there's a lot in the MK story that can still be interpreted otherwise, that's something that can't be misconstrued! And bless them for doing all that because WOW a DID (anti)hero is SO COOOOL, a whole new layer of identity porn haha

Love to see non-systems who can see beyond the ~DID means x alter is good and y alter is bad~ because truly that's the worst part about this (ie hero/villain) representation!

"i guess it's not that bad"

inspired by that panel from dc pride (2023) where tim complained about being constantly paired up with damian for patrols

tim stole that ipod from dick btw. dick's looking for it right now. he's digging through the box of miscellaneous cords for it

the dc pride panel:

has bruharvey fucking in a courtroom been done before? or do i add it to my kinktober prompt list? because that absolutely has to be done