Can I Give My Two Cents On Yoshizawa? Coming From Someone That Just Finished Royal And Also Likes Aigis

Can I give my two cents on Yoshizawa? Coming from someone that just finished Royal and also likes Aigis and Rise (and can understand why people hate her as well, it takes time to warm up to her). Sorry, english isn't my first language. This isn't also a hate message, just giving my honest opinion.

As someone who always struggled with depression and self steem issues, I really liked Sumire's portrayal and her wishing to be another person (in this case, her "better" twin).

I'll first adress the points in which I agree with you. First, her clothes. You're right, she shouldn't wear black clothes. I think, as she had her true awekening, her clothes could change and have similar colors as her third awakening.

Ok, back to the arguments. I shall tackle them in order.

The only time she helps Joker in the real world is to get him out of jail. - I could say the same about the other confidants. Only Ryuji stuck up to him against Kamoshida, and Shido on the elevator scene (and you can also defend him back if you have enough guts).

Her appearances never feel normal. - I played Vanilla before, so I knew whenever a new scene was popping up with Sumire, Akechi and Maruki. Maybe you think they're shoehorned because you already know she's a new character? Like, that feeling that "oh she wasn't here before".

Overly attached to Joker. - Think about it this way. She just lost her sister (in her mind, Kasumi lost Sumire). And while she behaved as Kasumi, everyone knew who she really was. Talking to her was awkward and like walking on eggshells. Joker, because he didn't know about this situation, he acted normal around her and even helped with her depressive episodes. So, she respected him. Sometimes we need this person to remind us that it's okay to have doubts but we can't let them win. But you said it, she ACTS like a extroverted socialite. She isn't one.

The thieves love her and she ignores them. - Hm... no? She respects all of them equally, specially Futaba and Mona. I do think she least interacted with Yusuke and Ann, but she and Ryuji did talk as well (but well it's Ryuji).

She does not contribute to the plot until the 3rd semester. - She was busy trainning and going on competitions. There's even a whole week she isn't around because of it. That's the same reason she doesn't join the Thieves at first. She's busy. Simple as that. Just like Akechi joined you because of his goals, she couldn't join you because of her goals.

Her first ranks and her "slumps". - Depression does this to a person, you can be happy one time and suddenly a tiny obstacle creates this wave of "I'm not good enough I shouldn't be here I shouldn't be happy." Cognition or not, she had suffered the loss of her sister and wasn't getting results while trainning. Anything could put her down. I've been there myself and I still struggle with it sometimes.

The social link doesn't reset/You only know Kasumi, not Sumire/ her perky attitude didn't change/her awakening doesn't make sense - We know Sumire. Sure, she's pretending to be Kasumi, but deep down she's still Sumire. There's an event where she makes a bento for Joker, and it looks atrocious, but when he tastes it it's just curry. In her mind she should be a bad cook, but her food comes out alright anyway. Plus we get snippets about the plot twist, the phone never working, we never saw a picture of her sister. Also, we know her when she was depressed for being her sister's shadow (cutscene with the car accident) but we don't know how she usually acted. We know, thanks to her trainer, that she was quieter and more graceful than Kasumi. Doesn't mean she wasn't perky at the time, and she has as much talent as her twin. In her eyes, Kasumi was better because she won all the time, but Sumire got just as much trainning as her. And Shujin, when Kasumi was alive, wanted BOTH of them enrolled with special status. Self doubt and depression made her underperform, even before losing her sister. Knowing this, her awakening DOES make sense, specially when you consider what her persona was saying. Ok we have Sumire/Kasumi, her sister just died and you're carrying the dream for both of you. You get enrolled with special status, all students are talking about you (we see scenes about the gossip right at the start of the game), the school is expecting great results and in your mind you're "the best of the best". But come competition after competition, you can't perform well. The students that praised you now badmouth you, and even after a third place the higher ups aren't satisfied. No wonder she would almost snap at the palace, SPECIALLY after seeing her sister dying AGAIN (remember, she doesn't know about cognitions yet so it was just like seeing her die again). Her persona says "You strive towards splendor... you know the risk... well if these were the shoes that you chose." You know the risk = she's a fake, and deep down she knows it (self doubt, depression); the shoes that you chose = continue pretending to be Kasumi. On her TRUE awakening, her persona even says "such tenacity, it seem to fit you better than ever before. The glass slippers are a sign of glory." Right at the start of this exploration, Sumire was still faltering due to her self sabotage. But now, NOW she's ready to fully commit and accept who she is. The glory of being herself and being proud of it.

Why did she dance at the school festival. - she's a famous athlete. Students love famous people. She was called because she was recognized.

Why did her father show up? - well we DID help choosing his glasses. jokes aside, it's to foreshadow even further about Sumire's true identity. He says her name, but it gets cut off. We only hear "... re" something like that. Also, two reasons. One, Maruki was making this series of "perfect and happy coincidences" between the characters, so much so that even them commented on it. Her father showing up is also one of those happy coincidences. Two, this man lost one of his children in a tragic accident. I wonder how come he didn't show up MORE. Picking her up from school, from trainning. He should be a little paranoid about her safety.

Why Cinderella/Cendrillon? - Cinderella suffered out of jealousy, ok. Sumire suffered out of jealousy, for her SISTER. Plus, remember, Cinderella had one key aspect: she wished to go to the ball, have the best night ever, maybe meet the prince but she wanted to get out of the shadows. Sumire's biggest wish is to get out of Kasumi's shadow and "go to the ball" so to speak. In this case, to be acknowledged, just as Cinderella was. From ashes to glass. I do think it's quite fitting for her, other fairy tales like Ugly Duckling and Little Mermaid could fit as well.

She suddenly accepted her sister's death. - she got a reality check, had her persona beaten, got in a moody and depressive state. She DID run away from the fact for almost a year. She rralized she had to stop running at some point.

We could've known other patients he helped. - I think the game implies he only helped Rumi and Sumire. He was busy working on his research, and then counseling at Shujin. If he had a chance, he should have helped other students there. Plus the game explicity says that he changed reality because WE the Phantom Thieves asked for it.

She loves Joker no matter what you do. - so does Haru. And Ann.

She stalks you into the palace. - she's worried about her friends after you implied you had an important job. I'd tag along as well just to be sure. And Lavenza went to the nurse's office as the butterfly. She probably saw it as well, IT'S A GLOWING BLUE BUTTERFLY.

Why everyone talks about how much she eats? - it's a trope, probably like Goku or Luffy. It's a japanese game after all.

She doesn't have a reason to join! - She does. It is "stop Maruki and his weird reality". When she joined Joker and Akechi, neither of them knew what was going on as well. They were the only ones with their memories and that's it. They joined up to solve the mystery. She joined up go help. After that, to stop Maruki.

She has Marinette vibes - ... I don't see it? And I watched a lot of Ladybug, got a bit out of hand yikes. But Marinette is a lackluster character I'll give you that.

AAAAAAND I guess that's it? Wow I wrote a lot. If you read it, thank you so much. Once again I'm not attacking you or anything, I'm giving you my honest opinion.

But I'm gonna say: I hated her goodbye scene in Royal. Maruki left you at the station (Billy Kametz c.c), the gang had an awesome farewell and she just... stumbles across you? What was THAT Atlus?

Those are some details, and I appreciate you being polite about them.

I might need to reinstate my thoughts, points, and counters regarding yours:

I can’t say I’ve totally understood the way the game portrays Sumire’s mental struggles… I mean I’ve also hit a really hard time in my life in high school where I was alone in going through these struggles for some time. And the way people go through their own mental hardships can be different for everyone. But Sumire never emphasizes what her “slump” is, or explains the cause for it. She says it like she doesn’t know the reason, and makes it sound like it’s only a simple slump throughout the first five confidant rankings. She’s been pretending to be Kasumi for some time so maybe it was a mind block from tying her back to who she really was? It’s really her confidence that’s shaky, and Joker repeats the same method of saying a phrase to encourage her, and she goes right back to being perky again without pause. Her slump is always dealt with in the same way the first half of her confidant. She seems to just take it as face value like a compliment.

Even with people feeling awkward about her acting and calling herself Kasumi, it’s not a valid enough reason for avoiding her like the plague. Shujin students I get, but her other fellow gymnasts would be the closest thing to interacting with her and having at least a simple conversation, like Makoto with the student council members. She probably wouldn’t have had to lean on him all the time if her parents or her.. teammates? club members? or maybe a single person talked to her and weren’t so set off about her identity issue. It’d be something like Ann and Shiho, Makoto and Eiko, and Mishima with the guys, or just an acquaintance. I don’t know.

I do find your point of her social link interesting over what she could’ve been feeling herself. But it all feels up for interpretation from before she came to Shujin and when she was Kasumi. Joker did what he always does, helping someone because he was somehow out of the loop about her actual identity when none of the thieves, from Shujin, talk about it. I mean I know it’s for the reveal but this detail was something so simple that could easily be solved. Maybe it’s because they thought Joker was calling her Kasumi for her own sake but he could’ve been informed about it, it feels like a loophole.

I had forgotten about her phone. And it doesn’t really makes sense as to why it’s broken only that Sumire’s or Kasumi’s was damaged and she either kept her phone or taken Kasumi’s. The explanation for that is weird. Did she really need Kasumi’s phone to be her sister?

The thieves love her after meeting her how many times outside the Metaverse without brief meetings like she had full conversations with them every time? Futaba and Mona are taken with her right off the bat because of her politeness for being the same age as Futaba with a different personality and interest for being a Persona-User and an athlete. She’s a Persona-User, that’s usually what catches other Persona-Users’ interest, especially the thieves. The most it feels like she interacts with them is in the Metaverse in Maruki’s Palace. Just because she respects them doesn’t mean they have something close to a max 10 rank up up of a powerful bond like the whole team sorta has. Respect can be different from willingly choosing to make close connections because one likes to have a bond with another. Respect can be broken down in many forms.

Her awakening shows no real form of rebellion for an oppressed society that has personally and wrongfully affected her. She has verbally stated that she does not care for people’s opinions and understands the consequences of losing her honour status as a result for ranking lower instead of first place. She did the best she could with what she was already doing and the outcome was what it was. I figured that time she saw her cognitive self was a sort of reminder of her she really was. Like a clue. Considering that her other self from the other world said that it’s her fault, the other self, felt strange and out of place because we don’t know the reason why. If it was just self discovery then that would fit. But she shares nothing that fits with the themes of Persona 5 as a Persona-User. Altus breaks those rules for her. There shouldn’t have been a point for her to have a Persona with such weak reasoning. Her second awakening still has nothing to do with rebellion. And to awaken again the second time with no changes? Hypocritical for the point of the Persona series. It would’ve made sense whether or not she had to even be a Persona-User in the place. Her growth, realization, and moving on from her past would’ve still been affective like the other confidants who reached a point in their lives where the change is known, yet didn’t need a Persona to showcase that. I feel caught in the middle about it.

Her being busy is one thing, but to be out of the story so much with only gaps in between from her appearances just doesn’t feel like a character that can connect the player so strongly as opposed to everyone else. Everyone has responsibilities. Haru has to work on her family company, Yusuke tries to find stability as an independent artist after Madarame, Makoto deals with the student council and doing well with her grades, Ryuji goes back to training as an athlete while working on recovering his leg, and Ann has to deal with the struggles of making it out as a model for her career. Akechi goes through crap with Shido as the Black Mask, being a detective, keeping appearances, and being a student. That’s kind of the point, her goals clash with why she doesn’t need to join the thieves outside of dealing with Maruki. Other than that, she’s got no stakes. She has a life for gymnastics that takes her on a more divided path from others. It’s a lazy excuse of writing to bother even including a character and deeming them important when they deliver no reason of significance to the viewer and backfire their involvement. Akechi doesn’t really count as his reasons and motives are intwined with the thieves’.

The whole school dance and she’s a famous athlete and all is one thing. But is she really the only well known athlete in the entire school for students to be talking about her all the time? It makes me curious about that. And if it’s a school dance, why aren’t any of the thieves who attend Shujin be there? I think I’ve forgotten as to why. But Atlus could’ve come up with any scenario and they chose a dance to bring the obvious ship of her and Joker.

I can really see other fairytale folklore characters that fit her, too, like what you’ve previously mentioned. Though none really fit P5’s themes of fighting for a cause for others and themselves. But I still get the vibe that while her jealousy is shared with Cinderella’s stepsisters, and she becomes someone else to be something than more than what she was, nothing changes about her after that. Her only freedom was through the prince, who took her away from her household and live a happy ending. And while her circumstances are understandable as to why she couldn’t achieve it alone, Cinderella seems like she doesn’t really change. And it’s someone else who does everything for her. To her stepfamily they could’ve perceived her differently, but Cinderella’s character doesn’t appear to change. It feels like a bit of a static character situation, maybe even more. I suppose it’s because she’s acting good in spite of her situation. But I can get behind why Cendrillon fitted her but also not, it just leaves the impression that her and her Persona stays the same. Cendrillon could at least look a little different to bring more evidence of growth instead of giving lines. I think that may be just me..?

The whole eating trope is ridiculous for having it be stated all the time. It feels overused, and to have it be stated every time she eats becomes an unnecessarily boring mention. Especially when the thieves have Ryuji, an athlete himself who they should know exercises a lot. It’s like they don’t know what being an athlete even means.

You can avoid a romance with Ann and Haru by choosing choices that aren’t actually responses to love confessions. Example: when Ann says she’s about to cry on Rank 9, you can comfort her platonically by saying she has the others. It’s the same with EVERY female confidant love interest. There’s an implication for a romance, but you can at least avoid it if you want to.

Your point with her father is something I can agree on. But does getting new glasses with her really deserve a confidant rank? And her tie with Maruki feels loose, and from the time she acted as Kasumi, it didn’t feel like her story expanded to how close of a connection she has to him. Maruki is just far more interesting.

We really didn’t get a chance to see how her student status affected her. But at the same it feels too similar to Makoto’s situation as well in a writing standpoint.

Sumire probably didn’t realize the process of losing her sister for almost a year. She did have her cognition be to probably think and act like Kasumi where their processing of grief is different. Perhaps she didn’t feel the impact of what Kasumi might’ve felt and if the roles were reversed and she wasn’t too heartbroken over herself because of her subconscious? She could’ve only just been processing her thoughts fresh as Sumire because she finally gets to truly be herself again. BUT, part of that just doesn’t sit right, because she said it herself that she knew deep down that her sister was dead (one of them had to be) and that pretending was wrong. That basically confirms that she is actually aware of what she has been doing this whole time. She really did want to be Kasumi. This is just my interpretation.

I did not mean about Maruki’s change in reality. I meant to wondering about the amount of time he has had since obtaining his Persona and what he’s done with his powers that had led up to the moment of his Palace.

She stalked Joker out of just sheer curiosity and not about minding his privacy that had nothing to do with her? Especially the important job that could’ve meant anything that was of no matter to her. Sure, it makes sense for her to care, but to just blindly follow and stayed in the Metaverse for who knows how long does explain much to me. I’m not sure if I’ve missed out an a detail or something. And what friends? She’s only behaved courteously with the thieves like what a professional relationship would be for a workplace. Nice but nothing deep behind it. And their relationship remains the same. The blue butterfly in the office is an iffy one. Other students were there and they didn’t see it. It’s like when some of the Velvet Room Attendants had gone through a veil of invisibility to the outside world accept their guests. Like the various locations of the Velvet Room in the real world and the Metaverse. Not even the thieves, or any team from P3/4 see the doors accept the guest. This could’ve went in a similar route. Like with Marie where she found support with all the members of the Investigation Team whereas Sumire only had that from Joker.

I had also meant something different as to why she had no reason to join the thieves’ cause. It’s obvious that she’d join to stop Maruki because she was personally affected by him and wanted to help. But as a writing standpoint, joining to simply help without having the shared standard goal of a group who strive for betterment from injustice, who personally experienced injustice and have it affect their lives deeply as motivation doesn’t work.

That’s what I mean for the most part when I inputted that Sumire gave the vibes of a similar lacklustre character who goes with seeking someone as their main person of attention. Marinette was the only character I could think of that gave even remotely a similarity. The two are portrayed as good characters despite their actions that leaves a lot of room for questioning why that even is.

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Spring’s Touch

A/N: 50-ieth post of this blog. Thank you all for 200+ followers. I hope you may continue enjoying more of my stories.

Fandom(s): Persona 3

P3 Male Protagonist x Fem Reader

Summary: You spend some time resting under a tree, just enjoying spring’s warmth. Having your quiet leader by your side makes it even better.

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Content: Fluff, romance, established relationship, napping, sleeping, reading, Arsène Lupin reference, comfort, no hurt comfort.

Warnings: None.

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Your eyes are closed as your mind drifts off, basking in the gentle breeze. The lap your head is lying on is warm, including the hand that is gently caressing your hair, brushing any invading strand away.

Minato is holding a book with one hand, focusing on its contents as his earphones play his music. There’s a relaxed expression on the blue haired teen’s face. It may not be so noticeable for people who don’t know him well, but you can easily spot such a visage.

With a sigh you turn to face him, a single cheek pressing his thighs. Slowly opening your gaze, your tired eyes naturally look up to see the blue haired male in all his glory. You can’t help but admire his current state, where he wasn’t burdened by his endless tasks.

“Minato..?” you softly murmur, voice drowsy.

His eyes calmly went over to you, still just as at peace as when he was zoned in on his own world. Minato’s hand doesn’t stop petting your head.

“Can you read to me a little bit?”

A small smile spreads his lips, gaze soft. As much as he wasn’t a talker unless necessary, he was easily swayed for you.

”All right.” nodded Minato. “Then I’ll start where I left off?”

”That’s fine.” you lazily beam at him, eyes getting ready to close again.

“‘It was indeed, the famous necklace, the legendary necklace that Bohmer and Bassenge…’”

Minato’s mellow tone continues to ring in the air, returning you to your peaceful slumber.

You weren’t rude at all, I’m actually impressed and glad to have someone bring a detailed perspective about this!

I think that Sumire was used to relying on Kasumi all the time because Kasumi chose to take the role of being the older sibling a bit too far. Perhaps Kasumi herself didn’t notice Sumire’s inferiority complex or depression or other negative feelings inside and thought teasing was harmless. Who knows? But it’s understandable that Kasumi couldn’t be a saint like Sumire painted her to be. I think it might’ve gotten to the point where Sumire only knows how to overly depend on someone who wouldn’t hesitate to help out of kindness, specifically Joker, as an unconscious choice of “I need someone who wouldn’t hesitate to help me or be around for anything I’d need” as a sort of resemblance to Kasumi. A Pick-Me-Up kinda thing or a cushion to fall on.

It could’ve been because she’s never tried being independent because she thought Maybe she relied on Kasumi more so than her parents? Maybe Sumire has always known to being overly dependent and she prefers to do so, and it could be the same way with the real Kasumi when she acts as her sister or it’s merely an unconscious gesture. She seems to have lacked any drive for independency and individuality in the past since she’d use Kasumi like a shield or a pillar to avoid anything that would teeter her.

But the thing about Sumire is that she’ll have this big scene where she says she has stopped being helpless yet sort reverts back to the same pattern. And while humans tend to go back on old habits, those who are willing for change try and occasionally falter but still grow. It’s human. But Sumire doesn’t seem all that different from before. I’m not totally sure about this idea though. It could always be for another reason.

Regarding the phantom thieves using Sumire’s ideology, I have doubts on this. They wouldn’t need to take her into consideration since they’ve done similar things to letting their targets have time to recover themselves, like the reformation of the Palace Rulers in the first game. They never rushed the outcome of their heist success in changing hearts. Then again, the thieves change hearts for the reason that their target’s desires and emotions are so out of control that they couldn’t change for themselves and are stuck in these states. So the thieves were left with no other option, their hands are tied to finding another method of means outside the Metaverse. The ideology of solving one’s own problems in the first game are shown through the target’s victims in the aftermath and more before Sumire even enters the picture more and mentions it. For example: Mishima and Shiho, and Joker’s confidants (including the thieves). The point of his emotional bonds with others is that although Joker helps them and impacts them, they are the ones themselves who strive for self betterment and the betterment of others in their lives.

These topics that could go any which way depending on each person’s opinions I think. Atlus leaves some things open for interpretation or ambiguous. But that’s my take for the most part. Thank you for your insight.

My Rants: Honest Opinions

My Problem With KaSumi|re Yoshizawa/Violet

Fandom(s): Persona 5: Royal

Summary: Yoshizawa rubbed me off the wrong way since the moment I saw her. I immediately got the sense of ‘Market Seller Waifu For Increase In Sales For Royal’ after seeing her unoriginal thief getup. And I’m unapologetic to admit that she’s my absolute LEAST favourite character despite the ridiculous amount of positive reviews she’s had after Persona 5 Royal’s release. And I couldn’t stop thinking about it after the Atlus announcement for Xbox and PC. Then I figured, I thought to finally expel these annoying thoughts in order to release my pent up frustration.

So here’s why.

Warnings: Spoilers for Persona 5: Royal.

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Or as I call her: the Mary Sue Waste of Space Doormat Kohai. Cause she’s like a Doormat character with a Senpai fetish. Because let’s face it, does anyone get called Senpai as much as Joker? No.

I know. I put her in my Entwined Hearts story but things will be different as the chapters progress.

The only time she really does anything in the real world is defend and help Joker when he is arrested, but ALL his confidants do that! They’re supposed to do those things after he deepens his bonds to max level, there is nothing new or unique about it with her!

A side note: I find it humorous that crossovers adding Yoshizawa just have to be emphasized with Royal and not simply Persona 5 even though Royal is Persona 5 in general.

Kasumi is a static character, Sumire is the flat.

Her very presence is a shoehorn. Her appearances never really feels natural. She just pops in and out whenever she wants. I would’ve honestly forgotten her if it wasn’t for the ridiculous amount of fans she has that just worships the ground she walks on or anything else she does. Which isn’t a whole lot.

Her looks are an uncreative and reusable mix of FeMC, Mitsuru, Yuko and from P3.

Overly attached to Joker because he’s pretty much the only person she wants to revolve around in her life. She hardly interacts or befriends anyone else. Her gymnastics club members, classmates, other schoolmates, her parents who barely show relevance to her personally, other honour students (there’s no way in hell she’s the only one), and the thieves. As Kasumi, for someone who acts like an extroverted socialite it doesn’t really make sense as to why she doesn’t. Like, talk to a single regular person at all.

And about the thieves; they, for some reason, blindly love her so much after only meeting, like, twice. They barely know her and have rarely interacted or hung out outside the Metaverse. She basically ignores their existence to have this weird honeymoon phase on Joker.

She does not contribute anything to the main plot except for 3rd Semester. Which is at the end of the game. Her first entrance to “save” Joker in Sae’s Palace was wasteful. He’s, not counting Mona, the most experienced fighter out of all the thieves. Joker did not need her help in any way shape or form. P5 vanilla proves that, he didn’t need any of the other thieves as backup when he was evading the Shadows. He’s the freaking main character! Joker’s supposed to have the spotlight for the player. It’s just a lazy introduction to a Mary Sue as a show of fan service beloved by everyone for anything she does or doesn’t do. And that gives the thieves a reason to have her for their “Hey, We Saved The World From Corruption By Taking Down a False God” party?

She rarely figure out the problems presented to her on her own. It’s mostly Joker doing it for her.

KaSumi/re’s social link for the first couple of ranks go the SAME route. You do a family friendly activity, she falls into her so called “slump”, you cheer her up, she promises to work harder than ever, and the cycle repeats to the point where it’s predictable and easy to gain her rank up. How is that interesting?

The same can be said for when she is back to being SUMIRE. Where after ONLY knowing her as Kasumi, you continue her confidant from where you left off. It would’ve made more sense if we were to start over her social link so we’d get to know Sumire properly (even if it’s already January but still). Yet we don’t.

There was nothing off about her being Kasumi in the first place that led to the indication that she wasn’t actually Kasumi. Her attitude stays the same, perky, polite, overly positive, being an airhead (That goes for Sumire too. Seriously, how does one take crappy code names as Appetite and Leotard into actual consideration? How do unused scenes like Akechi suspecting her as the Palace Ruler because of her association with said Palace being about one who craves attention and just let it slip by her?) her talk about her “younger” sister’s death just seemed like something to add for her backstory. Nothing really showed that anything was wrong in her happy go lucky world aside from the few interactions she has with Maruki. Which still hardly makes a difference. Though it didn’t matter if her reveal would’ve happened or not, Sumire just goes back to being the SAME person as when she first started. What were all those 120 hours of progress for..?!

Morgana wanting to recruit her then changing his mind because of Shido makes me deadpan. The thieves faced a perverted and abusive P.E. teacher, a manipulative and gaslighting artist, the freaking mafia, and a selfish and money-hungry CEO father! Everyone had their own lives on the line each! What makes Yoshizawa’s any different..?! I just don’t get it! Didn’t that cat say that powers in numbers is a good thing after recruiting Ann? That whole conversation after Maruki’s Palace was stupid. Because it meant nothing for the main story.

Her reason for awakening is weak and contradictory. Because, when voices of people who talk poorly of her, her motivation for awakening is that they spoke down on the dream she shares with her sister. This goes completely against P5’s themes and it doesn’t work. KaSumi/re never even cared about their opinions anyways, she even vocalizes this as a statement. And her potentially losing her honour student status was her own fault. Even with her second awakening being more meaningful, it still doesn’t justify having a “Spirit of Rebellion”.

Her thief outfit is nothing but a market seller for Royal. Atlus even admits it in their interviews. The only symbolism it has is that she admires Joker so much and sees him as a spitting image of rebellion that she replicates her attire to his, including keeping her Kasumi ponytail. Even Atlus admits this in their interviews that her outfit was just a market seller! The only thing original about it is the leotard because she’s a gymnast, but it’s so impractical. She might as well been wearing a swimsuit, it’d make no difference. And when she finally awakens as Sumire (though not really), her outfit stays the same, hair the same, Persona the same. There is no visible representation of Sumire showcasing individuality that separates her from Kasumi/re. Which is a clue to how she goes back to looking the same as when she was in the beginning. Character development what now? Violet is the same way, Kasumi with just a mask on.

Black just doesn’t seem like Yoshizawa’s colour palette. There’s no reason for wearing black when the only time she does wear it is her Shujin blazer and that’s it.Gymnasts don’t really wear plain black either; it’s usually with a flashy design that comes with dark and light colours, or one with a simpler look. Her leotard being plain black is too… simple? Purple works since she actually wore that for her gymnastics. Everyone somehow loves the inaccuracy of her in a sleeveless leotard that showcase exaggerated body that isn’t her at all, they seem to like using her just for their perverse entertainment, (then again pretty much every female fictional character is like that so this isn’t anything new or a big deal anymore, I don’t know, I can’t be bothered to give a crap knowing that the media does whatever it wants), when gymnasts always wear sleeves. This is just a notice I have over her costume.

Her showtime is weird. (Plus, why can’t Joker have showtime that gives him the spotlight?) So she jumps into his arms for a spin as he shoots down enemies, tosses her to make this strange performance with her deceased sister (does that mean she’s actually touching air and Kasumi is all in her head?), and has Joker twirl her into a dip. Just how deprived of his attention are you? Did Nintendo really have to give us the unnecessarily pointless scene of Yoshizawa’s dancing and her showtime as part of P5’s trailer of branching out to other consoles? Akechi’s showtime clip hardly balances that out considering it was short and at the end.

What was the whole point of that ridiculous dance cutscene of her and Joker? A shoehorn by Atlus as ship bait between the true star of the game and Trashy-zawa. Guess they’d go with any shoehorn to get people to continue talking about Royal.

Sumire’s backstory is just a recycle from the other girls’ story arcs. Especially Lavenza, who goes on to have an identity crisis herself where she is split into TWINS. I find that no body that I’ve seen has mentioned this. We didn’t need another twin story AGAIN.

There was also no purpose for Joker to be meeting her father. It only left the impression of a random encounter who you meet only once. Which is exactly what happened. What, is it so Yoshizawa would see something off-putting from Maruki’s Palace? That could’ve been done any other way or time.

Her connection to Cendrillon is off and strange. All the stories of Cinderella have many things in common: she’s a waif, she is looked down on by her household, verbally abused, put into forced labour, shown to be a genuine person, and is saved by a man who solves all her problems. All these bad things in Cinderella’s life happens TO her out of jealousy, spite, and cruelty. Sumire goes through none of that. She has a sister who cares about her, and parents that care about her, too. There is no ill mistreatment anywhere done TO her from when she was Sumire before Shujin. The thing she said about Kasumi making the decisions for her, like her clothes, is because Sumire lets her. She could’ve said anything at anytime and Kasumi would’ve listened. They’re siblings! Twins for crying out loud! They would’ve spent everything together knowing each other’s quirks, habits, and flaws. Yet Sumire puts the image that Kasumi is perfect in every way (Mary Sue) when she’s spent years with learning all about her twin. Sumire’s a Mary Sue for the fact that everything she does or doesn’t do is positively received no matter the situation. There’s also the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any ground reason as to why Sumire has an inferiority complex over her sister other than that Kasumi is considered the better gymnast. Is that all? Depression can happen to anyone, of course, but her large amount of jealousy of Kasumi feels kinda off in the writing aspect. And since we only get to see Real Kasumi once, ONCE, we don’t know the dynamics of their relationship. She and Cendrillon share only two things: they go to a ball pretending to be someone else and is saved by a man who solves all their problems. Joker saves her by revealing the truth of her identity, and her coming back as Sumire after almost a year of being brainwashed. Though the same can be applied to Maruki as she sort of consented to the identity crisis, and tried to stop Joker from undoing so. And what, after a short timespan when the thieves rescue her she figures herself out and then suddenly accepts Kasumi’s death with a big ole speech? Sure, she talks about it with Joker, and while it’s nice to have someone to talk to about these things, that doesn’t magically solve all of a person’s problems in one fell swoop. Sumire should’ve gone back to therapy with an actual therapist, and talked honestly to her parents about her mental problems. She doesn’t struggle much from being in her own skin again. Joker isn’t the center of her existence! She feels like an imaginary friend from all the times she’s around Joker and no one else. It’s like she ignores them. Having Cendrillon as her Persona just feels like a symbolism of entitlement, considering that her Persona doesn’t change after reclaiming herself as Sumire.

When the game FINALLY reveals what Trash-izawa’s deal is in being a Persona-User in the first place, I’ve already clocked out, exited, lost interest in her reused backstory that the element of surprise failed. To have to go through the main plot (the important part) of the entire game, we had to reach the end with Third Semester to get her reason for being (useless) meaning, to the end, just leaves everything dry. We could’ve gotten to know more about how Maruki’s powers work and what other patients he might have affected. Because is it really believable that he only inflicted Yoshizawa throughout the time he had gotten his Persona?

This chick gives me mixed signals. I can’t tell if she just feels guilty for being the cause of her sister’s death, or that she even misses her, or even that she blames her as an overbearing sibling. You allowed her to be that way! And, isn’t it also because she wanted to become Kasumi so much that found an opportunity to do so deep down?

She’s in loves with Joker no matter what you do. It’s like she doesn’t know what platonic relationships are. It’s like spending time with a guy has to mean romance. Then again, any person but Joker doesn’t exist to her. And who did you love him as exactly, Sumire? Kasumi or you? Because Joker has only ever known Kasumi. To him he’s only just met you. It makes me appreciate Aigis, Rise, and Marie more because they were nothing compared to the level of shoehorning Yoshizawa brings. At least Marie interacts with everyone.

KaSumi/re seems to have the habit of being an overbearing airhead. Everything flies passed her unless it’s about herself. Makes sense for the 10% amount of times she shows up in the game.

Whether it’s Kasumi or Sumire, they’re stalkers regardless. Her following the thieves into Sae’s Palace because she “felt something big was going to happen” is such a poor excuse. What, does everything Joker does have to apply to you? Just how long did you wait in the Palace? Did you have anything to eat? Creep. Her stalking the team in the nurse’s office out of no where was weird. How long have you been tailing them, huh? How did you conveniently find out about their meeting? Answer: there’s no explanation for it. It’s a plot hole players have no problem ignoring like it’s a reasonable thing.

Why does her being skinny while eating a lot matter so much to everyone that it has to be brought up all the time? She’s an athlete, we get it. Ryuji is no different! He’s an athlete for track for track and field!

All Kasumi cares about in this big wide world is gymnastics and nothing else. Sumire’s goal is not too different either. Yet her growth for betterment feels too short for someone who had an identity crisis for almost a year.

KaSumi/re has hardly any stakes as a Phantom thief. She doesn’t even have a reason to join their cause! She didn’t even agree with them that time she met up with Joker and Akechi.

When she said that only the person has to be the one to change their situation, she is literally undermining what happened with the cases of Kamoshida, Madarame, Kaneshiro, Shiro. Their victims were people who couldn’t stand up to them because they were powerless with hardly much choice. Joker, Shiho, Mishima, Ann, Yusuke, etc.

She gives me the same vibes as Marinette Dupen-Chang from Miraculous Ladybug. Who is also not a good character.

Joker, Violet, and Crow are a bizarre team. Her and Crow don’t even have anything in common for their dynamic. Their first meeting was just a shoehorn. It wasn’t necessary, it’s just lazy writing.

Thank gods she isn’t in Strikers, all she’d be was an out of place extra who is unable carry her weight. And she has no motive to even be one of them. Royal’s true ending proves that when she isn’t in the van with the thieves. Guess that goes to show how much of an afterthought she was to Atlus.

Part of me was disappointed that Persona 5 vanilla wasn’t coming to Switch so that I could avoid the pain of dealing with Yoshizawa. At least there’s 3 and 4 to look forward to.

But hey, if you can make reasonable opinions over this then I’ll respect that, and maybe my thoughts of her will be persuaded. Unless you want to be an asshole about free will of opinions and open mindedness then please leave this post now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It’s not like this post is a matter of life or death that demands bitchy responses. I draw the line on hate over just having an honest opinion different from others. Especially with any fans of any fanbase, that take things unnecessarily too far. Your love for this character doesn’t give you the right to attack me when I’m only pointing out what I’ve noticed about her and how my personal perspective is affected by those points. And as I’ve stated, I am open to seeing her in a different light, given reasonable and understandable viewpoints without the hostility.

I may continue making these points further. I just had to get this off my chest, even if her fans blast me for my personal opinions that have obvious pointers. Annabeth Chase from the Riordanverse books will eventually become my next rant. She and the “Percabeth” ship had always bothered me since I first read the series as a kid. And growing up, I learned plenty of reasons as to why.

Hi, this is not a request. I just wanted to say I have read Entwined Hearts and I am in love with it. I like that you didn't make the reader a Mary Sue Character and I love the interactions she has with everybody so far, especially Akira. I am new to the Persona series and have only just started playing 5, so for characters I don't know, I just look them up. Is the boy who gave her the headphones the protagonist from 3? I hope you continue this story. Love from a new fan.

Oh wow, thank you! This is the first time someone’s mentioned my story and to see that you enjoy it brings a pleasant surprise. And of course, I would never depict Reader to be a Mary Sue, it would mean I didn’t understand what characters are supposed to be for in a story. And main character(s) are very important to viewers as they are the center of the plot. So it’s important for them to understand where the characters are coming from. Especially for a franchise like Persona, where flaws and personal growth are very important for the characters.

I always want Reader to act human, think humanly. Show her struggles, feelings and habits that are a part of her personality and who she is, what she’s been through, what she offers to the Persona franchise. And be introduced to something new and foreign, like romance, jealousy, relationship obstacles, perhaps thinking of having a different life from the one she has now and what she previously thought of. Reader has lived a complicated and kind of crazy past that makes her unlike any of the other characters in the games, I try to, at least. She identifies as a Persona user for so long that she doesn’t really see herself as anything else because it’s a world she familiarizes the most, compared to reality. That kind of makes her vulnerable in a way. Where, despite her strength, she still falls back into a state of loss, insecurity, helplessness, fear, and trauma. But also on how she perseveres and heals from them.

Honestly, ‘Entwined Hearts’ is the first romance story I’ve ever written. My one-shots, drabbles, etc, are different because there is no long progression from being strangers to friends to lovers. I don’t actually have any personal experiences with love except from what I’ve seen and read from TV/films, other fanfics, games, and more, so it’s an interesting challenge for me for sure. I certainly do try to make Joker and Reader’s interactions be something worth paying attention to every time.

And the headphones? Maybe, maybe not…

‘Entwined Hearts’ timeline is Persona 5 taken in present day, but I will include much more from previous games, perhaps even something for Persona 6 if that ever happens. Though of course I can’t input anything specific in case of spoilers for what I have planned. I do hope you like what the Persona series has to offer and that you might take interest in their hidden connected worlds with each other, or the individuality of each game. I really am continuing the story, it’s just taken me time to work everything out. I will have new chapters coming.

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To Be Released.

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Spring’s Touch

Pairing(s): x Fem Reader

You spend some time resting under a tree, just enjoying spring’s warmth. Having your quiet leader by your side makes it even better.

Content: Fluff, romance, established relationship, napping, sleeping, reading, Arsène Lupin reference, comfort, no hurt comfort.

Warnings: None.

A Love By Hand *Requested

Pairing(s): x Fem Reader

As you stay together, you finally finish up on making something for your boyfriend.

Content: Fluff, romance, established relationship, comfort, soft P3 Protagonist, domesticity, cuddling & snuggling, knitting.

Warnings: None.

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