Anti Pro Choice - Tumblr Posts
Schoolyard insults don't make you smarter, though.
What's next? Are you gonna call me a big meanie doo doo head for not supporting murder?
Christians, or far-right zealots?
Since the discussion of abortion previously got heated a bit, it's probably fair to refresh the conversation eh?
I believe topics such as late term abortion/rape and incest should be saved for later within the conversation. Because they are heavier subjects, and are emotionally triggering.
So I ask you, why do you think a Afab person shouldn't have full autonomy of their/her/his body, especially during an unwanted pregnancy? Why does one hypothetical life matter? Is it because the surgery interferes with the process of child birth? Is it just alien to you?
Biblically speaking, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived. As a Christian, I abide by the Bible, so for me, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived.
The baby's conception is entirely out of its hands. It did not ask to be brought to this life, but it is a life that is nevertheless brought.
It is an injustice to blame the baby for something that it was not responsible for, and taking the baby's life is murder, Biblically speaking.
What about you? Why do you believe that full autonomy extends to abortion?
"Look outside of couple sex, or random sex spurgs. Do you know what corrective rape is?? (Still early in the convo, hence why in leading into it.)"
I can look it up, but I would like to hear you explain it.
Since the discussion of abortion previously got heated a bit, it's probably fair to refresh the conversation eh?
I believe topics such as late term abortion/rape and incest should be saved for later within the conversation. Because they are heavier subjects, and are emotionally triggering.
So I ask you, why do you think a Afab person shouldn't have full autonomy of their/her/his body, especially during an unwanted pregnancy? Why does one hypothetical life matter? Is it because the surgery interferes with the process of child birth? Is it just alien to you?
Biblically speaking, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived. As a Christian, I abide by the Bible, so for me, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived.
The baby's conception is entirely out of its hands. It did not ask to be brought to this life, but it is a life that is nevertheless brought.
It is an injustice to blame the baby for something that it was not responsible for, and taking the baby's life is murder, Biblically speaking.
What about you? Why do you believe that full autonomy extends to abortion?
Forgive me, but I don't see how corrective rape connects to the necessity of abortion. Could you clarify that?
Since the discussion of abortion previously got heated a bit, it's probably fair to refresh the conversation eh?
I believe topics such as late term abortion/rape and incest should be saved for later within the conversation. Because they are heavier subjects, and are emotionally triggering.
So I ask you, why do you think a Afab person shouldn't have full autonomy of their/her/his body, especially during an unwanted pregnancy? Why does one hypothetical life matter? Is it because the surgery interferes with the process of child birth? Is it just alien to you?
Biblically speaking, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived. As a Christian, I abide by the Bible, so for me, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived.
The baby's conception is entirely out of its hands. It did not ask to be brought to this life, but it is a life that is nevertheless brought.
It is an injustice to blame the baby for something that it was not responsible for, and taking the baby's life is murder, Biblically speaking.
What about you? Why do you believe that full autonomy extends to abortion?
"Is it fair for me to lash out at them for aborting the child because the cause and effect were making them suicidal?"
I guess here is where we discuss the idea of necessary evil, and whether abortion is necessary, or necessarily evil.
So, necessary evil.
I do not believe in the idea of necessary evil, or that there exist the concepts of 'good' and 'evil'. The two extend from the 'truth' that a person subscribes to. For me, my 'truth' is the Bible and my morality is an extension of that truth. The Bible says that life is at conception, and to take that life intentionally is to commit murder. Necessary evil no longer factors into the equation, because my truth draws the line clear from the start.
For you, however, I am going to say that your 'truth' is personal autonomy. Therefore, your morality is that nothing should impinge on a person's control over their body. Therefore, abortion is not a 'necessary evil'. It is necessary to express your 'truth' regarding personal autonomy; a person should have the autonomy to choose to abort a baby.
This autonomy is doubly important when we discuss victims of rape, who may be mentally affected by the act, and the baby may serve as a painful reminder of the act done against them.
However, is abortion necessary?
Because what purpose does abortion serve for a rape victim? It is not a matter of health, generally speaking. Neither is it an issue of justice because a person willing to commit rape probably wouldn't care if the child is killed.
Abortion is a matter of giving control to the victim, which ties into your view of personal autonomy. Give the Woman the choice that was taken from her by the act of rape. Fair.
But autonomy is a two-way thing, Abortion is an option, but another option is to encourage the woman to carry the baby to term and give birth.
The autonomy, in this case, is two-fold; the woman can choose who would adopt the baby if she can't bear to raise it. Or she can raise the baby herself into a contributing member of society. By bringing the baby to term, the woman gets more control over more things in her life than if she got an abortion.
In that case, abortion is no longer 'necessary'.
Is abortion evil?
The fact of the matter is that the baby is innocent of the rape. To turn it into a pointless sacrifice for the woman is injustice. This is a truth, regardless of how one may feel about the situation. In this sense, abortion can be considered an 'evil'. Because justice is a truth that all people share.
Taking the above together, we see that;
Abortion is not necessary.
Abortion is evil.
Therefore abortion is simply 'evil'. It is no longer necessary for a rape victim to have an abortion if the effort used to counsel a woman about the consequences of abortion is used, instead, to encourage a woman that carrying the baby may be a greater act of autonomy than aborting it.
Since the discussion of abortion previously got heated a bit, it's probably fair to refresh the conversation eh?
I believe topics such as late term abortion/rape and incest should be saved for later within the conversation. Because they are heavier subjects, and are emotionally triggering.
So I ask you, why do you think a Afab person shouldn't have full autonomy of their/her/his body, especially during an unwanted pregnancy? Why does one hypothetical life matter? Is it because the surgery interferes with the process of child birth? Is it just alien to you?
Biblically speaking, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived. As a Christian, I abide by the Bible, so for me, the baby is alive the moment it is conceived.
The baby's conception is entirely out of its hands. It did not ask to be brought to this life, but it is a life that is nevertheless brought.
It is an injustice to blame the baby for something that it was not responsible for, and taking the baby's life is murder, Biblically speaking.
What about you? Why do you believe that full autonomy extends to abortion?
The Incubator Argument
It is an interesting argument put forth by Pro-Choicers mainly because I had talks with 3 pro-choicers recently who raised this argument for abortion.
Namely: if women do not have access to abortions, they would become incubators for babies by a corrupt government ala the Handmaid's Tale. Women must have the choice to abort, otherwise, their freedoms would be taken away and they would be forced to have babies against their will.
An odd way to put things for several reasons:
Firstly, back when Patriarchy reigned and Women had no rights, Women were not SOLELY incubators. Women's role in history was more complex and inscrutable. Biblically speaking, women's main role in society was to be the men's helpmeet. A role that would be superfluous without God's direction in Genesis 2:18.
Barrenness throughout the bible was a more common occurrence, and the more famous women in the bible were noted to be unable to conceive for years until God intervenes. Abraham and Sarah are one main example amongst many.
Biblically, pregnancy was a blessing rather than a duty, and children were the natural result of couples' coupling, rather than any specific breeding program meant to increase fertility. Psalm 127:3, Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
If women were not turned into baby farms during the Old Testament, it is highly unlikely that a 'woke', 'progressive' society would consider such a thing.
This leads to the next point; if the government decides to put women in breeding farms against their will, how would abortion stop the government? Abortion hurts the woman instead of the government and leaves the resistance devoid of a future generation of young minds who would carry on the fight for freedom when the older generation passes.
Abortion is ultimately an impractical solution for an unlikely scenario. A double portion of fantasy stemming from an emotional mind. It is an indication that pro-choice is really the illusion of choice. Fostered by a thriving propaganda industry.
“No. You gotta commit because the baby is innocent, and aborting the baby would be an injustice to the baby.”
A fetus isn’t a baby
A pro choicer saying 'a fetus isn't a baby' is an indication of their confusion instead of a statement of fact.
Pro Choice went from first term abortions to 27 week abortions, then they start pushing abortions at any time of the pregnancy, its like you don't have a consistent consensus on when a fetus becomes a baby.
Maybe pro choicers should sort out when the fetus becomes a baby first before telling pro lifers that the 'fetus is not a baby'.
Deuteronomy 22:25 kjv
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
Rape is a crime punishable by death under God's Law. Which raises issues with the pro-choice argument that rape justifies abortion.
The bible does not teach 'marry your rapist'.
Bible law is superior to modern law because rapists are to be executed, not imprisoned, fined, or caned.
Under biblical law, the rape victim isn't under threat from the rapist because the rapist would be dead. Further, in Deuteronony 22:26 it states:
26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death.
Therefore, abortion would be unnecessary since the woman is protected by the biblical law.
Additionally, the abortion/rape issue is a matter of legislation. A fight on legislative drafting that would not be affected by the abortion of a child uninvolved in the process of the crime.
In fact, based on other pro-life posts on tumblr, a child may be the best evidence tying a rapist to the victim.
Ultimately, abortion as a protective measure against the rapist for the woman becomes unecessary because:
Under biblical law, the woman is guilty of no crime and the rapist is executed for his crime and:
Under modern law, abortion has nothing to do with the fight for harsher punishments against rapists.