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I've been waiting until my lunch break to yap more
But like!!! You get me!!! You see my vision!!!!
I think Nexus and especially Eclipse V1 have SO MANY story parallels at the moment.
Eclipse V1 was established as an error and mistake caused by OM running from his problems and inadvertently harming Sun by accidentally trapping Eclipse. Which also harmed Eclipse. So he lashed out and became a big bag which ultimately tripped Sun and Moon in their own heads. The entire conflict between them ends with OM forcing Sun's hand to use magic to permanently cast Eclipse away and hopefully killing him.
Still can't get over how Eclipse begged Sun not to and Sun actually did hesitate despite having his own attempts at reaching out to Eclipse brushed away. He had a lot of sympathy and at the very last moment he didn't want to kill Eclipse. That was the only option given to him at the moment and it actually didn't fix anything.
Basically a round two from then was started and what causes Sun to spiral etc etc. we all know what happened there.
But in my eyes I just see a repeat of history.
Nexus/new Moon was created by OM actions of once again running away from his problems. His actions once again harmed Sun and New Moon. When New Moon was at his lowest and reached out to the only person who might be able to help him he was given an answer that actively made him spiral worst and was straight up told to die. (Again you and most ppl already know all this hdfhh sorry for redundancy) And it caused him to act out and go off on his own etc etc.
Like Eclipse V1, Nexus is being made out to be this big bag guy because he made people feel intimidated and said some messed up stuff.
Another thing to point out. Eclipse V1 only killed once but was blamed actively for July 16th (he is partially responsible but he never killed those kids) similarly to how Nexus is being blamed for BloodMoon's death along with Earth's burns (Puppet implies that it's Nexus' fault that her hand and was forced)
So now we have the same set up again, a big bad that's somehow irredeemable despite showing signs and clear evidence he's not fully evil and can be redeemed.
I think it'd be neat if Sun has to once again face the consequences of OMs actions. (Similarly how he's also partially responsible for Eclipse V1 and Nexus own complexes...)
Once again Sun will have his hands forced to deal with a threat to himself and his family.
And he'll have to do it with a power he's not familiar with (the first time was magic he had no idea about and this time it'll probably be through NSP).
The big difference, when the chance is made and Nexus, like Eclipse V1 was, is beat down and Sun has the opportunity for the death blow. I think he'll stop. Not just hesitate, but actively choose not to kill Nexus.
Sun knows where it gets him when he kills threats. He's not a static character and I think he's grown and changed so much since Eclipse V1 and we know he actively regrets what happened to Eclipse and even BloodMoon (I'm so proud he forgave himself and moved on but that doesn't stop the regret)
Plus I know out of everyone he still loves Nexus.
Any ways this bled into my last break I hope you enjoy my crackpot rambles.
Join me next time I explain where I think Eclipse V1 ended up-
I'm sorry but "MY BEAUTIFUL PRINCESS WITH A DISORDER<3" really made my day and I needed you to know
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I can't believe Nexus is bullying peepaw war criminal.
Do you think Nexus is going to be stopped by big bro Sun or do you think the lil guy is going beyond the point of no return?
(Please talk about baby cringe Lord Nexus, I want to hear about your blorbo 🙏)
That's because Nexus IS my beautiful princess with a disorder, I'll have you know <3 they're diseased but it's okay I can give them their tetanus and flu shots and it'll all be better I GOT THIS
But. ahem, okay, blorbo yapping time. I'm not even gonna say "I'll try to keep this short" because I know it wont end up that way HAHAHAHAHA
"Do you think Nexus is going to be stopped by big bro Sun or do you think the lil guy is going beyond the point of no return?"
I... have absolutely no idea!!!1! (and also it took me an embarrassingly long amount of time to realize peepaw war criminal was Ruin KJDFHSDF)
The most frustrating thing about canon Nexus is how his morals, motivations, and goals seem to see-saw back and forth all the time. at first, he became how he is now due to Solar's death. he spiraled in his grief, identity-issues, and abandonment. but... now his motivation is to become an all powerful god??? while it's most likely that NSP is at play and affecting his thought process, it's... well, it's really hard to take him seriously as a villain because of it, lol. for an audience to enjoy, and even sympathize in some cases, with a villain, their goals and motivations have to be concrete. they have to be relatable, or at least understandable, but Nexus' whole thing is... not, Imho. and I know I'm not the only person who feels this way!!!
I see a lot of people calling Nexus "cringe", and the thing is, when it comes to canon Nexus, they're not really... wrong??? The worst thing Nexus has done so far is make Old Moon see his past victims, which is fucked up of him to do, but.. so far, that's kind of it??? other than that, his "villainy" consists of saying empty threats and cheesy evil one-liners. hell, he was supposed to kidnap Sun yesterday but instead spent the whole episode yapping and venting to him, chasing Sun around in the worlds darkest game of tag before getting some lead right in the face dkfjhsdfsd
Also, notice how he's only targeted Old Moon when it comes to actual physical violence? not Lunar, Earth, Solar, or Sun, but Old Moon? yeah, I did too. we already know that Nexus does everything because he's lashing out, but as of rn the only target he's gotten his hands on physically being O.M...? well. I think it says a lot. cause' yeah, he sure as shit scared the life out of the other Celestials, but he's never put his hands on them!! the only other one of them he harmed physically was Earth- and not only was he not aiming for her, she was just in the way- he felt immediate regret for his actions once in space, and has yet to even see Earth ever since that day.
So, I really have no idea if he's going to be "redeemed" or not. one second he's showing signs he might be, and the next he's falling further down the "pretty badly written villain" rabbit-hole. if he does get something akin to a redemption arc, he'll prolly mostly be accepted in the eyes of the viewers, considering a lot of peeps sympathize or at least understand where he's coming from, but I seriously doubt the other Celestials would take him back. the only one's who might see him as family/a close friend again are Sun and Solar, but even then, nothing would ever be the same.
I hope he gets redeemed, or at least freed from the hold Dark Sun has on him and he's able to live his own life, I really do. at his core, Nexus is a good person. a good person who was crushed under the weight of the shadow of the man he was born under. and we know this because he used to be New Moon. sweet, dorky New Moon.
New Moon, who made inventions like sentient knives and whoopee cushions. New Moon, who had matching My Little Pony stickers with his best friend. New Moon, who bought a whole ass island-luxury-house for Sun because he wanted to make him feel better and give him the proper space to heal. and New Moon- the poor freshly-baked A.I who gave his all to make sure he could do everything that Old Moon could, but it just wasn't enough. he tried and tried and tried, but it wasn't enough.
So yeah, idk if he's getting one in canon, but to me, he more than deserves a good ending, for the life he was given. let him be at peace.
*rubs hands maniacally*
Sorry I posted this when I was getting off work and proceeded to take a nap when I got home. but it worked out better for me cause now I have free reign to type this all out on my keyboard. I am here and ready to please. Just a reminder, this is a theory and a lot of speculation but I'm going to do my best to lay everything out.
This ended up long so I'm putting a little break.
So way back when at the final showdown moment between Sun and Eclipse V1 everything hinged on Sun casting a spell to throw Eclipse out of him. As we know, that did not go according to plan. Sun had zero magic experience and had to proceed to reverse Eclipse's own home-brew spell and recite it backwards to throw the interloper out. Eclipse, at the moment, was virtually impossible to remove. He integrated himself into Sun's mind, code, and soul so he couldn't be removed through any normal means.
Before Sun recited the final spell he and Eclipse had a conversation. He goaded Sun into killing him and tried getting Sun to see his side and asked Sun to let him back in, Sun actually seemed almost willing to do so. But that's not what happened and Sun cast the spell.
Sun "I'm sorry...we tried everything we could and there's no other alternative." Eclipse "I'll see you in Hell."
Those were Eclipse's V1 last words. After the entire situation Moon told Sun he did the spell wrong and either Eclipse is banished or he's somewhere crumpled up lost in time and space etc. etc. There's been a huge theory that Eclipse V1 is still alive. When BloodMoon was first introduced he was this incorporeal red spirit thing that was around solely because of spite. So we know the coded souls can survive without a body for a period of time so long as they have enough spite and determination. It was stated he couldn't stay in that state for very long though so Lunar went and got him a nano body. Using what we know, Eclipse V1 can survive outside of Sun's body for a period of time before he gets a vessel or dissipates. The entire crux of my theory however hinges on the fact I think Eclipse was sent somewhere. Eclipse was cast into Hell, his own form of Hell. What would his form of Hell be? I'll explain but first let me segue.
So going fast forward a bit. Not talking about Eclipse for now, putting a pin in it, but this is an important piece of the puzzle.
When Moon was locked into his own Mind, he started in an empty world and had to travel through many 'floors' His mind was was a complicated maze, maybe from KC meddling, but he finally ended with him finding his inner sanctum. Which was ironically the Destiny Island from Kingdom Hearts. Moon spent a year in his own mindscape limbo. Still can't get over that's it's Destiny Island, the place of beginnings and it was Moon's end.
We also got to see Earth's own inner sanctum was a beach with tropical beach house. I don't think it's from any specific thing other then it's a chill tropical place representing Earth's inner peace. She likes to be connected to nature and it's reflected in her mind palace. Take a look at FC and Stitchwraith, there was also the mindscape of the Mario Sunshine world that Stitchwraith brought FC too, to keep him calm. Each mindscape is implied to be unique and special but so far I've noticed each one has been a beach. His I think was more of an artificial mindscape made by Stitchwraith to give FC a temporary safe place.
Then when Solar created his device to go into the mindscape to help Lunar and Earth we saw that his own inner mind palace as that one TV room from Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate factory. Funny enough, Lunar did view a very important memory there and we got the juicy sauce on that.
Then with Lunar, while I'm not 100% certain what we witnessed was his mindscape but we did see usually he's in a foresty-grassy area. It's always night and a huge moon is cast over him. I think that might be his own mind palace. Gemini whenever they need to communicate with him in dreams / via telepathy that's where they typically meet.
I do think it's funny most of the mindscapes revealed have been beaches.
So moving from mindscapes, Remember Forgor? Earth's coded mental block taking the physical form of a silly eraser in her mindscape? Lunar and Solar worked together to go into her mind to help her stop the mental blocks in judgement. Forgor was actively harming Earth.
As we know (I just found out heehee, Sun got tortured omgeee happy days! happy day! ) Sun now also is implied to have an entity also stuck in his head. We're not seeing the same dramatic effects we did on Earth besides the fact Sun does seem more tired, more stressed, and overall his emotions just seem more muted? He was found mumbling to himself in the ball-pit clearly going through it.
Part of my theory (AND HOPE) is Sun falls into a coma, deep sleep. The point of the entity is to whittle Sun down until he's nothing but a compliant husk for the Creator to use. Sun is not someone who would ever cave to torture, mental or physical. So the coma is a highly likely result of the Creator's meddling (along with Nexus and Dark Sun's meddling).
The way the story is going I'm assuming they're going to need Lunar to go into Sun's mind.
So doubling back to Eclipse. He was sent to his own Hell, his words have power and spells backfire with intent. Sun even in the final moments with Eclipse V1, didn't want to kill him.
So i think Eclipse was sent deeper into Sun's mind. We have yet to see what happened to Eclipse V1 nor have we ever seen what Sun's inner mindscape is like.
Like hear me out.
Eclipse was sent to his own Hell, Sun's inner most mind, and there he's probably dealing with the Creator's entity. Imagine how fun it would be for Lunar to need to go into Sun's head to permanently shut down the thing and there Lunar meets Eclipse. His Eclipse. The one that hurt him.
But Lunar who's gone through so much, will put aside his own hurt and trauma to set aside his differences with Eclipse just to help Sun. That would be an incredible lesson and show of Lunar's character growth and maturity if he's able to save Sun. Lunar looks up to and loves Sun a lot, when he was scared after watching Earth get torn apart by BloodMoon he ran into Sun's arms. It would be wonderful to see the roles reversed and Lunar gives Sun aid and comfort.
I also just love Lunar and Sun interactions I think they're both just adorable and I love seeing their silly antics.
You all see my vision.
Also I have no idea what Sun's inner mindscape would look like.
It's late so I'm wrapping this up. I also want to get this theory out before Oct 1st. Heehee I did it.
IF this doesn't happen in canon, you bet I'll be making this into a fic XD
I'm currently sitting on the biggest most cracked theory on Eclipse V1 right now that involves Sun too but I won't spill unless someone asks me 😊🫶
Ooohhh you wanna know my theory so bad I just know you do
Hee hee~
I'm so glad you saw this!
It was back when with the mindscape theory and coma you cooked that my brain went "what if the entire fam takes a road trip in Sun's mind, and since it's Sun (he would die before they got to know his inner thoughts) they would totally need a guide." And my brain went "Eclipse V1 is the guide" and I proceeded to daydream him pretending to be Sun while he helped them to the real Sun to get them to leave.
Like! Eclipse V1 still being trapped in Sun's head is tragic irony. And him being in place that resembles hell (I don't think Sun's mindscape would be hell-like but then again he's gone through so much and the mindscape is a reflection on the person and their inner desires and inner fears) would be a funny twist of his own words.
He literally will meet Sun again in Hell.
I also hope Sun collects Eclipse only because it's really funny because they always say they hate him but they're always particularly drawn to him.
I love you too! /Platonic 2x
I'm currently sitting on the biggest most cracked theory on Eclipse V1 right now that involves Sun too but I won't spill unless someone asks me 😊🫶
Ooohhh you wanna know my theory so bad I just know you do
Hee hee~