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THIS THIS THIS!! (rant ahead lmao sorry)
It's always freaking heartbreaking to encounter people who belittle others just to feel superior in fandoms.
These people seem to derive a strange sense of satisfaction from dismissing others' opinions, declaring "your take is wrong" as if they hold some ultimate authority on the subject. This behavior is not only unhelpful but downright toxic, and it says far more about their insecurities and need for validation than it does about the person they are trying to belittle.
Someone excitedly shares their thoughts on a new show, a book, or a hobby they love is amazing and should be celebrated instead of being mocked and belittled. Instead of engaging in a healthy discussion, the self-proclaimed expert swoops in to undermine their enthusiasm, declaring that their take is flawed, naive, or just plain wrong. This isn't even about fostering understanding or sharing perspectives, no, for them it's about asserting dominance and making the other person feel small. It's a power play, pure and simple.
These belittlers often cloak their condescension in a veneer of intellectualism, pretending they're just trying to "educate" or "correct" you, or that they just "know better than you" for God knows what reason.
"But I know the character better than you."
"They wouldn't do that, you're wrong."
"That couldn't be even further from the truth."
"This doesn't match."
"We knew that, are people this slow?" But let's call it what it is: arrogance.
They can't stand the idea that someone else might have a valid point or a fresh perspective that challenges their own. So, they resort to mockery, sarcasm, and outright dismissal, being absolutely rude to people coming in with fresh takes and perspectives about characters.
Examples of this behavior are sadly abundant in all fandoms. Maybe you've experienced sharing your interpretation of a film's ending, only to be told that you "just didn't get it". Or perhaps you’ve offered a critique of a popular book, and someone insisted that your opinion is invalid because you don't "understand literature".
It's the same old song: their way or the highway.
This need to tear others down to build themselves up is both petty and says more about them than it does about you or your passion/hobby and so on.
What's truly awful about this behavior is the impact it has on open dialogue and community. It stifles creativity, discourages new voices, and creates an environment where only the loudest and most self-assured can thrive.
This is the antithesis of what any healthy community should be, whether it's a fandom, a hobby group, or a workplace. When people are afraid to share their thoughts for fear of being belittled, everyone loses out on the rich diversity of ideas and perspectives that make discussions vibrant and meaningful.
Plus, this behavior exposes the insecurities of the belittlers themselves.
Confident individuals don't need to tear others down to feel good about themselves. They understand that different perspectives enrich their own understanding and are open to learning and growing. In contrast, those who constantly belittle others reveal their fragile egos and desperate need for validation. Their superiority complex is nothing more than a mask for deep-seated insecurities and they can't stand them so, they prey on other people, people they deem "wrong" and/or "weak".
If you find yourself on the receiving end of such behavior, remember this: their need to belittle says more about their deficiencies than your capabilities.
Your opinions, excitement, and insights are valid and valuable. Don’t let their arrogance dim your enthusiasm or silence your voice. Engage with those who respect and appreciate differing perspectives, and leave the self-important gatekeepers to stew in their own narrow-mindedness. If those people make you feel like utter sh*t for being excited about something, leave said group, look for mutuals online or irl.
You deserve better than being belittled for being passionate, talkative about your hobbies and more. You'll never be "too much" for the right persons. If the arrogant ones find you being "too much", they can go look for "less" somewhere else.
In the end, the best communities are built on mutual respect, open-mindedness, and a genuine appreciation for diverse viewpoints.
Keep being excited, keep sharing your thoughts, and keep challenging the status quo. Your voice matters, and no self-appointed expert can take that away from you.
Fandom is meant to be a fun place. If creating petty cliques or some select special few as "the right ones" is fun to you, please go outside.



Aging is hot. Gray hairs are hot. Smile lines are hot. Get with it.
“mileven only made out” and “mileven dont know how to communicate” is borderline ableist, and you guys need to be more careful with your words
You’re allowed to have your own opinions on characters and ships, however it reflects on a lot of real life issues cause characters often represents those issues that real people struggle with every day.
The st characters don’t get to interact a lot with every. single. other character because there simply isn’t time in the show. Look at Max and Will.. does them only having had one conversation in the show mean that we can assume that thats the only one they’ve ever had? not really cause that wouldn’t make sense…
Things happen between seasons and scenes. We cant know what happened for sure but we can try and piece a picture together based on what the characters do, how they act towards each other, and what the vibe is.
Mike and Els way of communicating is unique because of Els limited vocabulary..
But its easy for them to communicate and understand each other.




They have their own special way of communicating and being with each other..
Considering the places El came from when he first met her, he was being perfectly gentle and considerate and managed to find a way to make her comfortable and they found their way to communicate and talk.
Their way of talking and being with each other is actually really beautiful and pure, and it doesn’t deserve to be diminished because of Els small vocabulary.
And about “mileven only made out”…
i’m gonna drop some pictures here that i think really indicates that their relationship was a lot deeper than just making out…









And El told Mike about her mom and the time she looked for her, something suuuper super personal…
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This parallel that i believe instagram editor wolfhard.lol discovered suggests that Mike had every reason to be as concerned as he was. El had been manipulated by Brenner for years to think the things she was doing weren’t dangerous, to think she was safe when she wasn’t at all. Mike knows that El feels super responsible for all the upside down related stuff that happens, and is willing to push herself far beyond what she can handle because he’s witnessed how self sacrificial she can get first hand…



He knows her well enough to know when she was in danger when no one else did, even herself,,
No matter how, they’ve clearly further bonded and definitely have a deeper understanding of each other and they clearly got to know each other better during their relationship…
They had two kissing scenes, and you’re allowed to assume they made out a lot,
But Hopper was shown to first be petty and overprotective when he was upset over them.
Later it was shown that the reason he felt that way was because Mike and El spent so much time together and Hop felt like El was slipping away from him and that it was ok but it just hurt.
It wasn’t because mileven only made out. Hoppers words about them was clearly shown to be AN EXAGGERATION
My point is, there’s no real reason to assume that milevens relationship ONLY consisted of making out…
So when you guys act like its canon and that theres no other way to interpretate it..
When you guys say they only made out, you’re saying that you think they didn’t talk, didn’t communicate and didn’t bond further in the span of a 6 MONTH RELATIONSHIP….
WHY??
QUICKLY??
The only thing that differentiates milevens communication from the other st couples is Els limited vocabulary…
You might not realize it, but sometimes you guys imply that Els limited vocabulary diminishes her relationships and makes her unable to connect with people and its just borderline ableist.
You can make all the assumptions you want about what happened between seasons and what the characters are like,
But only mileven gets this treatment. Only EL gets this treatment. Only her relationships and connections to people are diminished like this.
And also, acting like Els limited vocabulary and trauma ONLY invalidates or disproves her relationship with Mike doesn’t make it any less ok and it doesn’t excuse it just because its a het ship.
Els limited vocabulary is not proof against mileven, its not proof for byler and you should know that acting like it is is super wrong. You guys just need to stop.
You’re allowed to dislike mileven. You’re allowed to hate mileven. But you have to question your reasonings and you have to question the things you’re saying because sometimes it can be hurtful.
Ableism towards El in this fandom is a very big issue not just here, but in every part of the fandom and i think it needs to be talked about more.
I know you don’t mean to, but you’re hurting people. So before you get defensive please just consider what i’m saying.
and ive had recurring nightmares
that i was loved for who i am
and missed the opportunity
to be a better man
