Op's Ask Couldn't Be Further From The Truth Since Grrm Made It A Point To Say Dany+her Dragons Are The Fire In Asoiaf & The Others Are Ice - Tumblr Posts

8 months ago

Why are people obsessed with Daenerys getting pregnant? And specifically having Jon's child? Like they need her to bear the child of the main romantic hero. Like they think she will gain more importance through that because it's the Jon Snow's and no one else's, cause everyone else is beneath her.

Hello anon,

You must not be a book reader or else you would understand why I like some others have been saying that Dany and Jon will have a child together. I’m pretty sure that I’m one of the few bloggers who was pretty outspoken about the idea of Dany getting pregnant with Jon’s child early on. If I dig up my internet history I can probably find post from 2013 talking about this.

You see in the books there is an ongoing narrative theme through Dany’s arc and that is that she’s the Child of Three. Almost everything of importance that happens to her happens in threes. Three dragons eggs, three dragons, three awakenings after her fevered dream, three wise people come to meet her in the Red Waste, the three walls of Qarth she walks through to enter the city center, the three slave cities she conquers, etc.

If we go by what we learned from the HOTU, Jon will be Dany’s third and final husband and therefore the father of her child. Dany has been pregnant twice, once she had a stillbirth (AGOT IX) and once she had a miscarriage (ADWD X). Now, she is due to have a living child.

There are a lot of similarities between Dany’ final two chapters in AGOT and her final two chapters in ADWD. Here is an interesting one pertaining to this topic:

AGOT Dany IX “Mirri Maz Duur was there, the maegi, tipping a cup against her lips. She tasted sour milk, and something else, something thick and bitter.”

ADWD Dany X “Its flesh was tart and chewy, with a bitter aftertaste that seemed familiar to her.”

Mirri most likely gave Dany an abortifacient in AGOT and Dany in ADWD consumes perhaps the very same aboortificient thus miscarries/stillbirth in both instances.

As to your final statement, get off you ridiculously colored pink fuchsia high horse. Those of us who have been saying this for a while are just applying logic.

Jonerys baby for the win!

TTFN


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there's also the aspect that motherhood factors hugely in Dany's character it is a constant running theme in her story this is one of very very few times that I will say a female character almost seems incomplete without a child because Dany feels incomplete without motherhood esp in the books is this a constant point of reference op's ask couldn't be further from the truth since grrm made it a point to say dany+her dragons are the fire in asoiaf & the others are ice ntm dany is azor ahai/the prince who was promised/the stallion who mounts the world/aegon come again/aegon the conqueror with teats while drogon is balerion come again & her dragons are lightbringer so by op's logic asoiaf is Daenerys' story as grrm is a feminist who+ +has a theme of subverting traditional gender roles especially for men in a way that he makes his main female character the classic fantasy+ +classic fantasy hero instead of following the same old tired overused tropes & archetypes without at least subverting inverting+ +deconstructing or reconstructing them since that's the type of writer grrm is & his style as a 'gardener' rather than an 'architect' dany doesn't even need to have a baby either let jon's especially since her significance doesn't relay on the norm women are expected of but +grrm might as well do what he does best considering jon & dany both always wanted their own child & motherhood is really important to+ dany's arc anyway as a motherly figure (Mother of Dragons/Mhysa) they both cannot have so it's within grrm's nature to make so they+ +ultimately do in the end for the sake of irony which is why grrm uses why they can't have children & their mourning of broken dreams as+ +foreshadowing & part of the set up that they will along w/ the house of undying prophecy & qarth legend about the origin of dragons & dany+ +as “the dragon's daughter daughter of dragons mother of dragons bride of fire the fire is mine don't you see?” & “they wanted her the fire+ +the fire the life & dany stretched her arms out towards them“ & ”he would have you & the one who makes them [dragons]“ ntm dragons & the+ blue flower growing in a wall of ice symbolizes jon & the air filling w/ sweetness is how dany perceives it & it the winter rose blooming+ +out of ice also symbolizes reproduction as well as dragons not only in a literal sense since Targaryens & their offspring are called+ +dragons too for their connection to them as they are said to be descended from actual dragons & dany is consistently associated w/ the moon +throughout the books & told in the 1st book dragons come from the moon & even her 1st husband called her 'moon of my life' & aegon who dany +also shares many parallels w/ had two wives/partners & the dragon has three heads which dany is already one of the heads & jon is one of+ +them too so dragons & that flower from ice also symbolizes reproduction (out of what is 'barren' & 'infertile' & unlikely rare it should be impossible which represents what dany actually isn't too but seemed) especially since lyanna is associated w/ winter roses & jon is her son dany & her dragons also symbolize hope freedom prosperity & good fortune likely inspired by chinese culture while fire is sacred &+ +symbolizes life besides love passion sexual ardor etc ntm dany is a mother to her people she took under her wing as champion of the people besides all the many other parallels between dany & jon Daenerys Targaryen is the only ruler of the key five main characters of the most pov chapters unlike typically males in fiction🤡🤦🏾‍♀️🙃🙄