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I’ve been thinking about this for a while. A case study, used in psychology, can be referring to more than one person. A case study is “an in-depth investigation of a single individual, family, event, or other entity”. The manga name could refer to our Vanitas, him and Luna, or other vampires of the blue moon we don’t know about.

But it could also refer to someone becoming the next Vanitas after our Vanitas dies.

Just a thought.

I don’t know why some characters have rings around their eyes

But why does Noé have them only in Mochijuns art but not in the manga.

Will he get them eventually, and if so why? Maybe has to do with power but I’m not really sure.

You’re right. Why didn’t I notice this till now 😫

I don’t know why some characters have rings around their eyes

But why does Noé have them only in Mochijuns art but not in the manga.

Will he get them eventually, and if so why? Maybe has to do with power but I’m not really sure.

To be honest I feel like vanitas real name will somehow be the opposite for what vanitas means because in the end him being killed by noe will not be his end but also gives him fulfillment and the noe true name will also be opposite of the meaning?

Or noe name has something to do with finality then vanitas name is origin?

I don’t know what your thoughts about it?

I’ll love to hear your headcannon/theories.

Hi! I actually happen to have a theory on Vani’s true name in drafts! It’s not properly written yet, because I wasn’t sure whether to post it or not. But your question kinda made me think about it again from a new angle. So I’ll find some illustrations, elaborate on details and post it soon. But no spoilers on that for now👀 I'll just say that this name has some cool mythological origins👀👀

Now about the connection of Vani’s real name and Noé’s true name. I agree that there must be some thematical link between them.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure about what Noé’s true name itself should be. From what I remember, so far three true names are known: Florifel ― She Who Guides Spring (Amelia), Canorus — She Who Plays Snow Crystals (Chloe), Aprix ― He Who Nestles Close to the Last Snows (JJ). All true names are Latin words (Florifel should be "Florifer" which is a Latin adjective meaning “flowery”, but FlorifeL just happened in English localization) that are somewhat relevant to the vampires’ character arcs and personalities. It’s a bit hard to choose a specific word from all the Latin adjectives… But I really like the idea that Noé’s true name could mean something like finality or grand change, especially since Vani’s real name in my theory is actually connected with the theme of origin and new beginnings!

Alternatively, Noé's true name could mean salvation (another recurring theme between these two). The name Noé already implies both "ends and beginnings" and "salvation" because of the story of the Arc of Noah.

Either way, both of them could have a set of names related to the concepts of Ends and Beginnings, but reversed. Noé and Vanitas are each others foils, they are written for each other – shared meaning of names would only reinforce it.

It would also add some inteteresting flawor to the theory (that I personally treat as a fact at this point) that Noé will become the next Vanitas/owner of at least one Book.

Overall, the connection between their true names is a solid idea. And I'll try to elaborate on that in the nearest future, when I post about Vani's name!

The lost name

I think Vanitas’s real name could be Deucalion. 

In this text I’ll cover my reasons for choosing this name, its connection to the story of Noah and the myth of Pandora and how would it correlate with the relationship of Vanitas and Noé. 

Posting this as an actual answer to @scar-eyejolteon14 as promised here. 

The lore of Deucalion 

It all started when I was wondering what kind of name I could give Vani if I were to draw him as a Chasseur (ordinary human, who’ve never met Luna and never inherited their name). I began with the most obvious thing: checking Vani’s wiki page for existing details and references. I went with his zodiak sign, Aquarius, as the staring point, because stars and celestial bodies are recurring theme in VnC and well why not?.. 

The next obvious place to go is wiki page for Aquarius. Here we come across a fun thing: Babylonian star catalogues. They contained lists of stars, constellations, and planets. 

I found the first picture on a somewhat strange website, but whatever. This is a fragment of a circular star calendar, which belonged to the library of King Ashurbanipal (668-627 BC) in Nineveh. The second picture is a star list, found in Uruk (320-150 BC). It had information on all constellations such as names, number of stars, their distance, etc. Just so we understand that astronomy was a big deal there. 

And yes, the capital of Babylonia was Babel — that one city with the tower (The Book of Genesis, Genesis 11) which is referenced in VnC. 

(Ch. 21) 

What did Babylonian astronomers think of Aquarius? Well, they associated this constellation with the Ea. “The Great One” is his title. He’s also known as Enki, god of magic, fertility, creation, etc., who was originally a water god (and his temple name E-apsu means “house of the watery deep", idk I think it sounds really cool). The water theme is not random: Aquarius was also associated with floods. Water was sacred, but also deadly: floods were source of destruction. 

Later, a Latin author Gaius Julius Hyginus quoted an Alexandrian historian Hegesianax that Deucalion is to be identified with Aquarius, "because during his reign such quantities of water poured from the sky that the great Flood resulted." Again, we see the idea of destructive flood. But where does Deucalion bring us? To Noah. Or Noé, if you will. 

(Ch. 1) 

Deucalion and Noah 

Both Deucalion and Noah are central figures of the classical flood myth, which exists in various cultures. While these two are probably among the most popular figures, there are other examples, including Utnapishtim, who was warned by the god Ea (who also created humans among other things) about the flood and instructs him to build a boat and save his family and animals. The stories of Deucalion and Noah follow the same pattern with some minor variations. But Deucalion is the one who is associated with Aquarius, the constellation that symbolizes the coming of the flood and all its terrors, while Noah/Noé is associated with salvation of human race and all living things. 

Deluge, 1864, by Aivazovsky. This painting depicts a beginning of a biblical story about the near-end of human race. It’s pretty much the same in other versions of the story. 

Deucalion and Pandora 

What’s interesting, Deucalion’s myth is directly related to Pandora’s myth. Deucalion is usually described as the son of Prometheus, while Deucalion’s wife Pyrrha was the daughter of Pandora. And Pandora’s myth is among the core themes of “Pandora hearts”. If we consider the possibility of VnC and PH’s universes being connected, the idea of Deucalion being Vani’s true name would also make sense… For example, this theory covers the topic.  

Left – Noah gives Thanks for Deliverance, 1901, by Domenico Morelli. Here we see Noah from the Old Testament, with his family, as they give thanks for their safe deliverance back to land after surviving the flood. A double rainbow signifies God’s presence.

Right – Deucalion and Pyrrha, 1636–1637, by Rubens. This painting shows a scene from the story of Deucalion and Pyrrha as told by Ovid in Metamorphoses. After surviving the disaster, they had to throw stones over their shoulders, each of which became a new human being.

Even if worlds of Pandora Hearts and Vanitas no Carte don’t exist in the same universe, there clearly is thematical relation between the two stories, one being about hope and another about despair. What’s even more interesting, there was actually a whole discourse about what’s hidden in Pandora’s jar: is it true hope or is it actually an illusion of salvation which hurts even more than actual despair? The translation of the word elpis, the spirit of hope in the jar, is actually neutral in its meaning. It’s simply “hope”, not inherently “good” or “bad”, which leaves a lot of space for interpretation in media. 

Vanitas and Noé

Volume 3 cover implies that Vanitas will be marked by an Archiviste. It’s unknown whether this Archiviste would ne Noé or Machina or even some other. I hope it’s gonna be Noé, because it would break a specific border between them and it will definitely be very dramatic, but Machina might do it for the sake of obtaining information, which is her main thing. Anyway, regardless of who does this, when and why, I believe that this moment is probably the real possibility for revealing the true name of Vanitas. 

On a side note, it would also be kinda interesting if Noé gets to know Vani’s true name, but it will still be hidden from us, the readers. There’s is also a possibility that Vani’s true name will not be revealed even in this situation. His goal is to erase everything related to the Vampire of the Blue Moon, and I guess that would mean erasing everything about himself too. But in Ch1 he promises to stay here even after he is gone, so it might imply that at least someone will get to remember him — perhaps as Xxxx the human, not Vanitas, kin of the Blue Moon. Which might mean going against Luna’s request… 

(Ch. 50) 

And, well, Xxxx could de Deucalion. Just think about it: wouldn’t it be cool if both Vani and Noé were given names with similar symbolism behind it and later both assume the moniker of Vanitas?

Plus the whole “loop” thing, like “memory loop” theory and “time loop theory” (here and here) again adds to the idea of connection between them. The loop where ends and beginnings melt into each other, like Ouroboros eating its own tail. The loop between Vanitas and Noé, where they will have to understand pointlessness and hopefulness of life – and what does in mean to save and be saved. 

The ultimate hope of survival becomes fleeting dream for all caught in this loop. But every dream is destined to end, as pointed by Saint Germain. And what will happen, when Vanitas and Noé will have to wake up from the dream of their own? What will prevail - death and futility of life or salvation and rebirth? 

(Ch. 55)