applesforthis - You can't get there from here
applesforthis
You can't get there from here

Fannish things, writing, other stuff. Often NSFW. My pronouns are they/them.

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applesforthis
7 months ago

BOUNCY PORK OMG

Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The
Obsessed With This Baby Hippo From Thailand's Khao Khew Zoo.. She Has Been So Utterly Betrayed By The

obsessed with this baby hippo from thailand's khao khew zoo.. she has been so utterly betrayed by the world

applesforthis
7 months ago
I Am LOSING MY MIND With Excitement.

I am LOSING MY MIND with excitement.

(Via M.S.'s instagram x)


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applesforthis
7 months ago
Abandoned Buildings Reclaimed By The Desert Sands Kolmanskop, A Ghost Town Frozen In Time. Ph. Mark Daniel
Abandoned Buildings Reclaimed By The Desert Sands Kolmanskop, A Ghost Town Frozen In Time. Ph. Mark Daniel
Abandoned Buildings Reclaimed By The Desert Sands Kolmanskop, A Ghost Town Frozen In Time. Ph. Mark Daniel
Abandoned Buildings Reclaimed By The Desert Sands Kolmanskop, A Ghost Town Frozen In Time. Ph. Mark Daniel
Abandoned Buildings Reclaimed By The Desert Sands Kolmanskop, A Ghost Town Frozen In Time. Ph. Mark Daniel

Abandoned buildings reclaimed by the desert sands ➤ Kolmanskop, a ghost town frozen in time. ph. Mark Daniel


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applesforthis
7 months ago

The vast majority of celebrities really don't want attention from strangers when they're just walking their dog or having a date with someone. I've joked around on here about stanning certain actors I admire, but I want to be very clear that it's a joke; by 'stan' I mean I look at the stuff they've shared publicly on their social media. Privacy is something everyone needs, and I feel...really protective, of that. <3

 Chappell Roan Via Instagram
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— Chappell Roan via Instagram


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applesforthis
7 months ago

I do feel it was a fair-play mystery, but only just. Behind the cut is the one clue I spotted, along with some hints. (I didn’t solve it before the reveal, so all of this is stuff I only figured out on rewatch.) Also apparently I wanted to talk about the killer's reasons for outing themself.

In episodes 1-3, it was definitely meant to be a secret that Sam was their main suspect.* You can tell that it was a secret because around the beginning of S1E3 we see Eddie and Dulcie at the station, grilling all the other cops and demanding to know who among them leaked this info. For me this was the biggest clue that Ray was the killer: Ray was the only civilian* who knew that Sam was their main suspect, and and immediately after Ray learns this, Sam’s boat is set on fire, and Sam’s body is left out in plain sight.

*EDITED TO ADD: just kidding! @dodger-chan has pointed out that Ray wasn't the only civilian who knew. In fact, on reflection, Eddie also shared the Sam-is-the-killer theory with both Vic and Skye on the night of Skye's restaurant launch. I still think it's a clue that Sam's boat is burned and his body is left out in plain sight immediately after Ray learns Sam is the prime suspect, but @dodger-chan is correct that this wasn't a strict secret, more controlled information. In light of this, I think I actually agree with @dodger-chan that Deadloch only barely qualifies as a fair-play mystery, because this makes it more plausible that someone else could have learned that Sam was their prime suspect. Good call.

The other hints that I noticed are far subtler:

I do think the swimming thing is a hint. For one thing, it's true that not all people who sail can swim. But most can, and I think this was Ray's way of deflecting suspicion -- of making himself seem less like the sort of person who would own a boat (the kill room).

Also, if you watch Ray during the scene when he tells Eddie that Lou is dead, his crying is fake. Eddie’s too distraught about Bushy to notice, but it’s very obvious if you look. And when Eddie walks away to go and get in the passenger side of the truck, Ray’s face instantly changes, because he was never upset.

Also, serial killers (most famously Ted Bundy) sometimes fake an injury or other signs of weakness in order to make themselves seem nonthreatening to their victims and to onlookers. Ray does this in a general way, both with the swimming thing and in other scenes via body language. In E4 while he’s helping to carry the paella he makes a little “ouch” noise and grabs his back as if it hurt him to lift something heavy. And when Eddie's interviewing him after Jimmy’s body is found, Ray has let them give him oxygen, and has a very smol-and-weak way of huddling under his mylar blanket. (Weirdly, this pretending-to-be-smol-and-weak thing was the one thing that jumped out at me on my first watch, I think because of Eddie's "you're a meaty, meaty lad" line. He is! Ray's a meaty, sturdy person, and that line made me start to notice that he was pretending not to be.)

I do agree that there are some loose ends that just never got wrapped up, like where Ray was storing the bobbing bodies and how he got William’s car. I’m curious about these questions but it feels realistic to me that not everything gets explained.

These aren’t clues but I have thoughts about Ray and his motivations:

1. Ray reveals he is (or was once) religious during his monologue in the barn. Speaking to Skye of their early friendship in Sydney, he says, “You could see I was struggling with my faith, and with my purpose.” 

2. I agree with you that after he met Eddie, Ray was probably mostly leaving clues as a way of showing off to Eddie and keeping Eddie around...but I do think that Ray was toying with Dulcie as well. For a start, Eddie wasn't in Deadloch when Ray very deliberately left Trent's body on the beach. And when he left Gavin's body out, he and Eddie hadn't met yet -- or even seen each other, as far as we see in canon. So I think that at minimum he left those two clues out in plain sight for other reasons, and not because he was interested in Eddie.

I think it was because of Dulcie. Here's why I say so:

Later on in canon (S1E8) we learn that back in Sydney Dulcie was assigned to work a serial killer case that was never solved...because Ray was the killer then, too, and he left town. It's interesting that Ray was friends with Skye, in Sydney, and I have to wonder if maybe he befriended Skye as a way of getting close to Skye's friend Dulcie, the detective who was hunting him. It's not clear if Ray moved to Deadloch before Dulcie or afterward EDITED: Just kidding, Ray moved to Deadloch before Dulcie did -- we know this because he killed Sam before Dulcie arrived. Thanks again for the sharp eye, @dodger-chan. :-) What a hilarious surprise that must have been for Ray, when Dulcie followed him there but still had no idea he was the killer she'd been hunting back in Sydney.

So for the past five years, Ray has been living cheek-by-jowl with the detective who failed to catch him in Sydney. I imagine it would have been something to savor, for him: to know that this woman who had spent so much time and energy hunting him had no idea that he was at it again, right under her nose. And I think he left the first two bodies out because he wanted her to notice at least those two murders, to notice and to start to suspect a connection between them. He wanted her to worry, he wanted to be on her mind, even though she wouldn't know he was the same person she'd been chasing in Sydney. And eventually, he wanted her to know that as well, because it was too tempting not to show off -- hence his using the name of a Sydney victim to book the Airtaskers: he wanted Dulcie specifically to realize that it was him, her old enemy, that she'd been letting him get away with it again. That stabbing was deeply personal, he meant to kill her and honestly I'm surprised she survived. I think Ray was much more interested in Dulcie than he let on, as an enemy, as someone to defeat and dominate.

So, I spent the last week rewatching* Deadloch to determine if it really is a fair play mystery, and my answer is: yes, kinda. Yes, in that you do get all the information the detectives do before the reveal (though sometimes the information will be withheld for a scene or two for dramatic effect). Kinda because the clues given in the first seven episodes** are not enough to point the finger at the murderer without looking at the show as a piece of art, and considering what its themes are and which of the viable suspects would best reflect those themes. Specific spoilers under the cut. Do not read until after you have watched Deadloch, which you should do as it is amazing.

*reading the subtitle files and watching a few key scenes

** I'm not including the 8th episode, where the killer is revealed, because by that point you're not getting clues, you're getting answers.

Every clue I noticed that implicates Ray, with commentary

(episode one) Cath mentions going to treat Ray's pet: Not super useful, as we see Ray with Lou later, and learn that Lou is old and likely to need medical treatment. It doesn't mention the pentobarbital, though presumably Lou is Ray's excuse for getting it from Cath. It also gets his name in the show right away.

(episode two) When Ray takes Eddie to the shack, he mentions Skye O'Dwyer is his best friend. We also know he works for her mom at the bakery, and seems to care for the whole family. So when we start considering who would kill Sam O'Dwyer, he's definitely close enough to the family to be a suspect.

(same scene) We learn Ray isn't from Deadloch, but has been living there for some time. But the line is vague on when specifically he moved. It would have been helpful to know he moved before Sam was killed.

(same scene) Eddie lets Ray know she's leaving as soon as they find Sam and his boat, where she thinks (correctly) the murders happened. It's not a secret, but he's the only non-police character we're shown specifically being told this information.

(episode two) Ray doesn't have any lines after he leaves Eddie at the shack, so I watched the end of the episode and he doesn't rejoin the other main characters at the Bush Wolf. Not suspicious in and of itself, but if you go back and look for alibis, it's clear he doesn't have one for planting Sam's body/setting the boat on fire

(episode three) Sam's body is planted immediately after Eddie keys in on him as a suspect. Amusingly, this seems to be less about Ray wanting to show he's smarter than to cops and more about making sure Eddie stays in town.

(episode three) Eddie again tells Ray she's leaving as soon as they have the DNA match, then leaves him after taking a swab. The next guy in line goes to Ray to get swabbed for the test. This implies it's possible he didn't submit his sample and that's why the blood on the boat didn't match him. It's also possible that the blood was from a previously undiscovered victim. I don't think we ever find out which was the case. My assumption is the latter, because why would he hand over a DNA sample if it might implicate him?

(episode four) Kind of an anti-clue: Ray at the beginner swimmer class. An experienced sailor isn't necessarily a good swimmer, and he used a boat for the first five (discovered) victims. Of course, this turns out to be a lie and Ray's actually an accomplished swimmer, but it doesn't make sense that he'd be pretending to need lessons.

(episode five) Ray is one of the first people to find Jimmy's body and reports it, fits with killer wanting to see other people reacting to his art.

(episode five) Another anti-clue: Ray vomits when he sees the body, and again while telling Eddie about it. The character might have been able to fake it that first time (he was preparing food, he could have snuck a slurry into his mouth like the actor actually did) but I think the character had to be genuinely vomiting the second time.

(episode five) Even with my glasses on I couldn't read the list of names the priest faxed over while it was on the tv. Taking a screenshot and zooming in gave me a better look, but while one of the names looked like it might have been Ray McLintock, it wasn't clear. Given that Eddie didn't know his name (he told her when she took his DNA, but it didn't stick) I think it would have been fine for us to see his name on the list, but not have it ping with her. (Spouse and I were calling him "Ray Pies" when we talked over the episodes, so I doubt the name would have pinged for me, but it would have been nice to have confirmation he knew about the religious stuff).

(episode six) “I’ve made some mistakes with women, and I’ve had some pretty weird interests” okay, it's not much of a clue by itself, but in retrospect, yeah, I think he has.

(episode seven) The six extra bodies surface and it turns out they were frozen and had defrosted over the last forty-eight hours. This means the killer started to defrost them around the time of the DNA testing. Also when Eddie told Ray she'd be leaving soon.

(episode seven) Eddie admits to actually liking Ray. She's a mess with shitty taste, there had to be something wrong about him.

That's pretty much it for clues within the show. It's not a lot, and I'd argue it's not enough to consider the mystery solvable. It's fine when clues don't seem to be relevant before you know who done it, but I think they need to be a little more conclusive when you look back over them. In the first seven episodes we don't know that Ray has access to pentobarbitol, or that his pet is still alive, or about Sam not being his first kill. At no point do we find out where he was storing those frozen corpses for years (sure, Skye has a cool room for her restaurant, but she would be using it) or how he got his hands on William Carruther's old car. And we don't know he moved to Deadloch before the murders began until we find out he was committing them.

Still, if you start with the theme of reinvention, and you eliminate suspects based on definitive alibis and not psychological profiles, Ray is one of the better suspects left, especially if, like me, you'd been assuming Margaret killed her brother from the moment we heard he'd left the country. Ray being the killer wasn't a shock, but I didn't know ahead of the scene in episode eight where Eddie finds Lou, even if I joked about Ray being the killer because Eddie liked him. So in conclusion: fair play, kinda.


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applesforthis
7 months ago

I slow blink at people all the time. My roommate's dog has come to understand what it means and now sometimes does it back to me. So I guess I accidentally taught a dog how to speak cat, or one word of it anyway.

I haven't meowed at anyone, but I have reflexively hissed at people. Also, during the years when I was living with just my cat, and not getting a huge amount of interaction with other humans, I would occasionally slow blink at people instead of smiling 😻

I still slow blink at people to indicate friendliness and I no longer have an excuse.

It’s never been negatively received but on some occasions cat savvy people have paused before demanding, “Did you just slow blink at me??”


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applesforthis
8 months ago
applesforthis - You can't get there from here
applesforthis
8 months ago

Studies show that approaching youth with a bystander-intervention model is actually a lot more effective for reducing sexual assault, and it is also more enthusiastically received than programs that bill themselves as anti-rape.

We can tell youth that they are basically “rapists waiting to happen” (anti-rape initiative), or we can tell them that we know they would intervene if they saw harm happening to someone and we want to help empower them to do that (bystander intervention). The kids jump in with both feet for the latter! It was amazing to see children (and young boys in particular) excited to do this work and engage their creativity with it. Also, studies show that not only do they go on to intervene, but they also do not go on to sexually assault people themselves. Bystander intervention also takes the onus off the person being targeted to deter rape and empowers the collective to do something about it. It answers the question in the room when giggling boys are carrying an unconscious young woman up the stairs at a house party, and people are not sure how to respond and are waiting for “someone” to say or do something.

Richard M. Wright, “Rehearsing Consent Culture: Revolutionary Playtime” in the anthology Ask: Building Consent Culture edited by Kitty Stryker


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applesforthis
8 months ago

Hey I was wondering if you took your deadloch fic off-line? The link isn't working that well?

Oh hey, thanks for the message. A few days ago I locked it due to an online privacy scare, but that problem has since resolved, so I've just unlocked it again. It should work fine now, please let me know if not. :-)

applesforthis
8 months ago

Oh no this is so good

"What do you call two women in love going on a secret mission? A lespionage."

Cinnabon will now crawl back into hole and nap.


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applesforthis
9 months ago
A floor plan in bright colors with detailed labels, showing the main level of Dulcie and Cath's house from the TV series Deadloch.
A floor plan in bright colors with detailed labels, showing the upper level of Dulcie and Cath's house from the TV series Deadloch.
A simple line drawing showing an exterior view of Dulcie and Cath's house from the TV series Deadloch.

This was more challenging than the station because we don't get as many scenes/angles of the house. Still fun, but in places where we don't know what's there I've left it blank and noted that.

Part of the house is an A-frame. As I was drawing the floor plans I realized that they could be hard to understand for that reason, so here's an exterior view as well to hopefully clarify. 

(Please note, I do not have any insider knowledge of this set's floor plan. I have reconstructed this from what we can see in the series.)

(Previously: the station)


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applesforthis
9 months ago

I love that Cath is even in character X-D

It’s no mystery that we’re stoked about this news! #Deadloch is coming back for a second season on Prime Video


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applesforthis
9 months ago

I'm too stoked. I can't focus, can't work, I can't think about anything else right now. Here is some stoked music:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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applesforthis
9 months ago

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *breathing deeply* OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDD

(link to article)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!

Sergeant Horsehair and the Gremlin will be back!!!

Me, right now:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!

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applesforthis
9 months ago

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE THIS SO MUCH, WHAT THE FUCK

applesforthis
9 months ago
A floor plan of the Deadloch police station in bright colors with detailed notes.

How much is too much detail to get into for the sake of a fanfic? Asking for a friend. (Please note, I do not have any insider knowledge of this set's floor plan. I have reconstructed this from what we can see in the series.)


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applesforthis
9 months ago

Same energy: average day in wisconsin

I have pretty mixed feelings about my country, especially right now, and sometimes it's really nice to run across something like this on my dash and be reminded that not literally everything here is awful. Like for example, we have dorks. <3


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applesforthis
9 months ago

If I had a nickel for each time I've been told to stop "overthinking" this type of hypothetical or categorical question, I'd have...a lot of nickels.

The way most autism literature describes "literal interpretation" is often not at all similar to how I experience it. Teenage me even thought I couldn't be autistic because I've always been able to learn metaphors easily.

In fact, I love wordplay of all kinds. Teenage me was fascinated to learn all the types of figurative language there are in poetry and literature.

But paperwork and questionnaires are hard, because there's so much they don't state clearly. Or they don't leave room for enough nuance.

"List all the jobs you've had, with start and end dates." What if I don't remember the exact day or month? Is the year enough?

"Have you been suffering from blurred vision?" Well, if I take off my glasses the whole world is blurred, but I'm fairly sure that's not what the intake form at the optometrist is asking.

Or the infamous (and infuriatingly stereotypical) "Would you rather go to a library or a party?" What sort of party? Where? Who's there? I work at a library. Am I currently at the library for work or pleasure? Does it have a good collection?

It's not common figures of speech that confound me. It's ambiguity, in situations that aren't supposed to be ambiguous.


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applesforthis
9 months ago
Kate Box and Nina Oyama (who played Dulcie Collins and Abby Matsuda in Deadloch) are in police uniforms, their costumes from the series. Kate is holding out a banana with the top peeled to Nina, and Nina is leaning forward as if about to take a bite. Nina is very silly/goofy/enthusiastic. Kate is looking away coolly over the rims of her sunglasses. This is a VERY camp dick joke.

Every once in a while I remember that this photo happened and my day gets a little bit better.

Not sure if this counts as fanfiction exactly, given that it's the actors from canon who created it. Apocrypha, maybe?

(Via N.O.'s instagram. x)


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applesforthis
9 months ago
applesforthis
9 months ago

My favorite thing in this fandom is how everyone drools over this look. Because it's the most boring outfit imaginable, and yet she's just glowing. Compared with how she was the entire rest of the series, the difference is night and day.

I also love that they kept her looking kind of windblown -- her hair's messy, her clothes are a little rumpled, something about her belt is just slightly off-kilter/cattywompus. And I love that she's still a bit shy or something, that even though she's happier and more alive now she's still recognizable as the same gorgeous awkward weirdo she always was.

Ugh. This was just really well done and I love it.

applesforthis - You can't get there from here

watched the finale of Deadloch and my main takeaway is this look™️


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