Also, Also, Also We Should Know About The Houses And Temples And Mosques They Destroyed To Make Everything

Also, also, also we should know about the houses and temples and mosques they destroyed to make everything around Ram Mandir beautiful and the road.

Also YEAH!! 🤣🤣

The public need jobs, schools and colleges and hospitals!

guys don’t laugh at bjp’s loss in ayodhya

Also I’m sorry but it’s extremely comical how the people constantly going on and on about how much Lyanna is preferable to Elia and it’s written all over the narrative because Lyanna is the true love and Elia is not, because Elia is not as beautiful as Lyanna because Rhaegar supposedly dies with Lyanna’s name on his lips and doesn’t spare a thought for his wife, because while Lyanna dies in her bed of roses in Elia of Dorne’s land, Elia dies alone beaten and r*ped with her dead children far from home, because Lyanna’s son is a secret prince surely meant to marry the princess and bring forth a golden age with a thousand children, Elia’s son is surely fake and meant to die a death as vile as his mothers.

I don’t agree with any of the above btw, I just think it’s funny that the people that do and consistently say the same talking points can’t be satisfied with that? It doesn’t matter to them that Elia of Dorne is *degraded by the narrative*. They need her to be *degraded by the fandom as well*. They cannot tolerate a reality where Elia could be preferred to their favorite white self insert.

How can you like Elia more than Lyanna 😔 I love all woman!!! but I just don’t get how yall like that made up original character Elia yall made up in your head when Lyanna is clearly more relevant!!!and we know more about her!!! And what they can mention about Lyanna sums up to mother of Jon Snow, willful, likes horses, protected her fathers bannermen, possibly rode in a tourney in his honor, loved by Rhaegar, crowned with flowers by Rhaegar, didn’t want to marry Robert, ran away, loved by brothers, has a Mormont Lady named after her, dies in childbed. Truly what else is there? Because I can say the same about Elia? Who was the mother of Aegon & Rhaenys and possible mother of Young Griff, kind, sweet wit, found travel exciting and traveled extensively, had poor health due to being premature, titled Princess of Dorne, almost wed Jaime Lannister and Baelor Hightower, was one of the rare individual in the entire series to be kind towards baby Tyrion Lannister, had a fond relationship with Rhaegar Targaryen who she was wed to, brought many ladies to attend her either signifying female friendships or political intelligence, meant to be Queen, likely one of the few noble ladies with Valyrian Blood at the time, loved by her kingdom so fiercely many fought and died for her, her kingdom also held a grudge over her death and longed for justice, held hostage by Aerys Targaryen and died due to speculated grudge Tywin may have held over Elia being preferred to Cersei, has a niece named after her, with other nieces wishing to bring justice to her and her slain children, deeply loved by both of her brothers with one dying to bring her justice and so grieved by another he is considering assisting a boy claiming to be her son.

So maybe let’s chill on the questioning why people like Elia and let’s reread the books where she’s referenced from the very beginning and is important to a major plot line and Dorne.

As to whether or not people prefer Lyanna to Elia, I don’t care about that. As long as yall remember it’s perfectly valid to prefer Elia as well. 🙂‍↕️🫶

Mahmoud Darwish // Fyodor Dostoevsky

What if Rhaegar and Viserys were age swapped?

Nothing?!

Because I am a firm believer of 'Circumstances make people'

Rhaegar grew up far more differently then Viserys did. Rhaegar was loved, only prince and child of the king and queen till Viserys was born, that dude had like everything and he still fucked up byt being too idealistic and lost in prophecy.

And when he was little Aerys was definitely not mad, so for sometime he also had a stable childhood.

Viserys is from my opinion unnecessarily hated so much in the fandom, like he grew up on streets, begging and mocked. No Targaryen Prince ever had that life. Of course he turned out the way he turned out. And he still took care of Dany as long as he could.

Imagine you are an older sibling, so if your parents die and you lose all of your assets and money and the world wants to kill your younger sibling and you but you have to survive because you come from great dynasty and people compare you to your dead brother because of whom you lost everything... I will be surprised if you are were able to keep your sanity.

But if we are going by personality wise then I think maybe no war, no tourney crowing another woman.

Because Rhaegar did what he wanted his whole life but Viserys did not, he was literally all about his duty to his house, his duty to win back everything because it wouldn't have been hard for him if he just settled down with an Essosi noble lady and let go of Westeros. He did not.

All of us because finally the Queen is here!!

HELAENA IM ON MY KNEES…….

The fact that Aegon loving his children it’s even book canon. TGC is describing Aegon’s personality as it is hinted in the book and yet people is mad.

Tom literally acknowledges he is not a good parent but he loves his children.It makes total sense that he would have a complicated relationship with fatherhood based on how his father treated him. Or that in his mind, he wants to be better than Viserys.

Thank you anon! You're exactly right, we've always known from the book that he loved his children. Adding onto that is that we have barely seen 20 minutes of Aegon until now, if the early reviews are true we'll get 15 minutes of Aegon in the first episode ALONE. Of course we find out much more about the character, we barely know anything about him!

This made me wonder; what do we know about Aegon?

We meet Aegon for the first time in episode 3 of season 1. He is just a two year-old who plays with a wooden dragon toy and yet the older characters around him only see him as a threat, a pawn or, by his father, as a replacement— watching the episode it's clear to me that Viserys wanted Baelon, Aegon cannot be Baelon. It's pretty telling that the only positive on-screen interactions Aegon has with his father are in this episode. He is a little kid still, Viserys can project his wishes and fantasies about Baelon onto him, something he isn't able to do once his son is grown up.

I think it's pretty crucial to understand this part of Aegon's and Viserys' relationship— the perfect ideal of Baelon (he killed the only woman he ever loved for the perfect son; you cannot come back from that) stands between them, like a shadow Aegon could never escape and a standard he could never meet.

We don't really see Aegon again until episode 6— he is a teenager now and thus a completely different person. The little baby from episode 3 has been shaped by years of neglect, unfulfilled expectations, and the toxic dynamics within the family. What has he become? He is a 15 year old with problematic relationship to alcohol that is used as the punching bag of the family. He jacks off from windows (welcome back Roman Roy!), leers at maids and bullies his younger brother.

Teen Aegon is perceived as a disappointment by his grandfather, who sees him just as a weakling and a pawn to be controlled (a belief he still holds at the start of season 2 apparently). His mother projects her own ambitions, resentments and fears onto him.

These behaviors are all very troubling and someone should've done something to prevent these habits from festering within him; no one did. I honestly feel like no one really cares about him that much.

And yet, there is also so much postitive to be said about this iteration of him too, glimpses of Aegon's potential for goodness and his capacity for loyalty. You might call it naivety, but Aegon seems to believe in the good in people— he trusted Rhaenyra not to hurt him or his brothers if she was to become queen (something I agree with). He also seems to treat his nephews well enough, he doesn't seem to care about the bastard-allegations -> he also seems to be friends with bastards as an adult! Eddard Waters belongs to his entourage, this informs his character— yes he is an entitled prince, but there's also an element to him that is endearingly down-to-earth.

Another notable example is in episode 7, he decided to protect his mother after Aemond blamed him for spreading rumors about his nephews' legitimacy . He never cared about the rumors, yet he stood his ground and shielded his mother when faced with his father's wrath.

Ty Tennant does such a great job here. The scene highlights his complexity— he is not simply a drunken disappointment, a villain or a victim, but a young man trapped in a situation he doesn't seem to be able to get out of.

When we next see Aegon, he is in his early twenties, and the toll his upbringing took on him is evident. His introduction in episode 8 is a hefty one. He is shown sleeping off a hangover, his drinking habit from his youth has fully established itself in him. His mother yells at him, tries to get him to understand the consequences of his behavior— he has raped a maid, something that, disturbingly, is not new for him. This moment speaks volumes about the man the little boy from episode 3 has become: flawed, morally compromised, and numbed by his vices.

Further even, Aegon engages in activities that reflect a deep-seated cruelty and a disconnection from others— watching toddlers rip each other apart in brutal fights shows his general desensitization and apathy to everything. These behaviors are obviously unacceptable, but this is a fictional character we are talking about and you know what these behaviors tell me about him? These are just manifestation of the dehumanizing effects of his upbringing.

He is desperate to be loved but destined to be hated — Tom Glynn Carney

Because characters can be multi-faceted and complex, Aegon fights off insecurities and still yearns for love and acceptance from those around him. Him acting out like this can be read as misguided attempts to drown out the background noise, to try to assert control in a world where he feels constantly undermined and unloved. However, his actions only serve to alienate him further from the people he wants to be accepted by.

Aegon's aversion to the throne and his rejection of the responsibilities that come with it are just other manifestations of his deep-seated apathy. He despises the very idea of kingship and what it represents. He doesn't want to take up responsibility become a pawn, he yearns to run away but he himself knows that he will never be able to run.

The carriage ride to the sept and the coronation are gifts that keep on giving. It's all so horribly tragic. He never wanted this. Crowning him will kill him, he knows this is his end deep down!

He is so preoccupied with what his father wanted, Baelon is absolutely still haunting the narrative— his father's desire for him to embody virtues he never possessed or could aspire to (BAELON) are still at the forefront of his thoughts.

As he walks to receive the crown, he is literally crying, this single moment encapsulates it all so well. He is man who, despite his privileged position, is trapped by the very power and responsibility he was born into but never desired for.

But then, at the very end of episode 9, we see a shift in Aegon— something else to him that will be at the forefront of his character in season 2. He finally gets the adoration and the purpose he always sought after with the crown. The moment he realizes that the smallfolk is cheering for him is the moment the apathy that defined him up until now begins to lose its grip, replaced by newfound determination.

This change in Aegon will be furthered by the death of Jaehaerys, a source of pride and a reminder for him that he is capable to create and care for something precious and pure (thank you TGC) -> I won't go into this deeper, let's wait until the season airs.

In conclusion, a wise woman once said that apathy is death. For so much of his life Aegon embodied apathy, only for the very thing he feared most (kingship) to make him rethink everything. Aegon will be driven by his determination, but this path will lead to his destruction, consuming him until there is barely anything left of him. It will ultimately tear him apart; he is both redeemed and ruined by the weight of a crown he never wanted.