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The Mad Lover

Amber. 29. // When I’m not here I’m watching5-hr streams about ASOIAF. 📚Fanfic writer. 🧈🔥 on ao3My 2012-2019 blog is long gone. I’m back to share my thoughts as I work to continue an endgame Jonerys fic series, “We Could Live Together”. Multishipper: Jonerys. ClairexJamie. Weirdcest. Hannigram. Malec. Destiel. Reylo. DinLuke. Historical greats.

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Ooo That's A Nice Chart You Got There. Thanks For Breaking It Down For Us. I'd Agree. It's Hard To Notice

Ooo that's a nice chart you got there. Thanks for breaking it down for us. I'd agree. It's hard to notice when first reading. But I noticed this too on a re-read.

Some of my favorite moments are when "Arya's" impending wedding leads Stannis and Jon to discuss who to do about the Karstarks (the only House who've pledged for him). Stannis thinks Arnolf Karstark will keep his pledge. But Theon's chapters tell us everyone at Winterfell knows Arnolf will betray Stannis when he finds Alys, so he can claim Karhold.

As you have described, the tapestry is more tightly knitted together than what D&D did without Jeyne Poole, which increases coherency. It's just another example of the pitfalls of grafting the personality traits, backgrounds and roles of minor characters onto the main characters in a sprawling adaption of a series like this.

Alas. At least we can identify these problems and undo the enmeshment of the book and show plots.

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Earlier I had mentioned how ‘Arya’s’ marriage to Ramsay Bolton is the thread that connects all the plots in the North in ADwD and I could not help notice how it’s mentioned or is the driving force for what is happening in four different locations or about 70% of the North plot.

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Daenerys and Jon are Traumatized Romantics

Daenerys dreams of Daario after he’s left and increasingly romanticizes him more and more the longer he’s gone. When he finally returns she’s eager to see him, but is very upset upon discovering he really is a sell-sword that is ruthless and brutal. In her mind she had envisioned someone who was safe for her, who was romantic and sexy and shared her values. Upon discovering he is not exactly that person she becomes very upset.

I think Jon is also a romantic in his own way. He tries to re-contextualize his time with Ygritte as meaningful and tragic, similarly to how Daenerys looks back on her time with Drogo. However, at the time, Ygritte was simply just a person that Jon got caught up with. He was attracted to her and cared for her, but I don’t believe he was truly in love with her. Dying when, where and how she did resulted in her being martyred in his mind. Which again, is very similar to how Drogo is remembered in Daenerys mind.

Daario’s relationship with Dany represents seeing her lover as a person, but also a romantic figue. Daenerys and Jon romanticizing Drogo and Ygritte respectively, helps them cope with the trauma they dealt with during their time with their first “loves”.

Even how Jon thinks about Val is romanticized in many ways “lonely, lovely, and lethal” is so poetic. Jon does see Val as a person, but there is also that layer of romanticization there. Val and Jon are not explicitly romantic with each other, but there is a softly subtle undertone to their interactions that says otherwise. I also find it interesting that though Melissandre shares Ygritte’s red hair and forward nature, he isn’t particularly attracted to her in any way. He seems to prefer the boundaries he shares with Val to anything else. The boundaries he probably would have kept around Ygritte had he not been forced into that relationship so soon.

Ultimately, both Jon and Dany had their perception of sex and romance skewed early on in their lives by partners that were older, more experienced and uncaring towards their comfort. They were too young to have a good grasp on what a relationship should look like, and even if they did and even if Ygritte and Drogo were safe partners (which they weren’t), the fact that they were both so stressed and at such pivotal transitional times in their early lives when they first “fell in love” really did do a number on both of them.


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