Diassaveratzanoworld - A Small World Of Four Walls

A little ironic meta. I hated this scene in TR too.

same bullshit energy

There’s something that’s been bugging me about the first Thor film for a while, which is the fact Thor’s great “revelation” is this nebulous thing that is implied to have occurred but isn’t really actually presented to the audience? Like, yes, it would be a great shock to be dropkicked off your home planet and lose your fancy magic powers, but I’m not sure where and how that leads to “I was wrong to re-ignite war against our hereditary enemies, obviously they are people too, and I must stop Loki because Genocide Is WrongTM”. 

Especially since the fate of the Jotnar is never picked up again? It’s just kind of assumed that- well, that no one on Asgard gives a shit if they did all die from delayed effects of the planet getting a hole punched into it. Despite Thor apparently  believing that preventing such warranted smashing the Bifrost?

Granted, Asgard seems to rely on the Bifrost to the exclusion of possessing spaceworthy craft, so they couldn’t render aid if they wanted to? 

But it’s weird that the last act of Thor hinges on Thor having had some great realization and it just-isn’t there?

Why did you change your mind, Thor? 

Was Darcy watching Schindler’s List for one of her classes or something? Considering what is revealed about the war with the Svartalfar, does Asgard even have a concept of genocide, or is it simply considered a “dishonorable” tactic that is nevertheless lauded in practice because “yay, we won’t have to worry about that enemy anymore”.

What made you change your mind, Thor?

Why did you break the bridge when you had gleefully murdered someone for an insult 3 days before?

Why did you change your mind?

What made you change your mind?

…and why didn’t it seem to stick?

 - Do you think the Bifrost is the only way in and out of this realm? There are passages between worlds to which even you, with all your gifts, are blind. But I have need of them no longer, now that I am king. And I say, for your act of treason, you are relieved of your duties as gatekeeper and no longer citizen of Asgard!

-  Then I need no longer obey you!

Okay, the throne legitimately fell to Loki in Thor 1, but the deleted scene also shows that as soon as the staff was in his hand, Loki began plotting a way to make it a more permanent position. But as they say, absolute power corrupts absolutely? Which is sad because he looked like a wounded puppy at the thought of taking the staff without permission, like "Wait, you mean me?" T_T Definitely a scene that shows the complexity of a baby Loki trapped by Odin's A+ parenting.

Obligatory puppy dog Loki: 

I don’t know that Loki immediately began plotting to make it a more permanent position out of corruption, though. I think that he began plotting to do as much as he could while he had the position to clean up Thor’s mess with Jotunheim and make himself the hero who killed Laufey, slaughtered the Frost Giants (which Thor wanted to do) and saved Asgard. In my opinion, Loki’s intentions were never evil or corrupt; he acted out of a desperate need to prove his worth - to prove himself equal to Thor, or maybe even better than Thor. 

It really makes me wonder how things might have turned out had Sif and the W3 not intervened - because, really, all Loki was trying to do was keep Thor away from Asgard until he had time to carry out his plan and come out the other side, victorious. I think eventually, he probably would have let Thor come back. But once the W4 went against Loki’s orders to bring Thor back, that’s when Loki got desperate and things fell apart. 

I don’t think Loki ever thought he’d have the kingship permanently. If nothing else, Odin was going to wake up eventually, at which point he’d be king again. Loki just saw an opportunity to prove himself, while taking Thor down a few pegs, and pounced. Idk, it’s all very interesting because there’s just so much complexity going on between the characters in this movie and a million different ways things could have all turned out.