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The Tumblr Blog of Retro Ace, Head of Divine Comedy Productiosn and aspiring storyteller of high-fantasy blended with various genres

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Thank You For Replying And While I Understand Your Point, I Respectfully Disagree, And Granted My My

Thank you for replying and while I understand your point, I respectfully disagree, and granted my my AU is a hard reboot that takes your points into account, and granted it’s partially due to subjective feelings, but this I just what I feel and just what I think.

I get your points, but I just don’t like it, I didn’t find it interesting, it just made me sore

To quote Talladega Nights

“I don't know what organ or bone people have that makes them act right, but I was born without it. I'm no good.”

It just got under my skin that the concept like a dork knight like Jaune and a kind warrior woman isolated by society like Pyrrha ended tragically, being told by fans such a concept can only be that way in epic fiction no matter what, and been told what I thought they could have been isn’t interesting and presening all of this as 100% objective fact which nobody is allowed to actively disagree or dislike, and often they have no idea what I had in mind for them, and I never liked Game of Thrones either, mostly due to things like you mentioned

Same with Iceberg, Black Sun, and Renora, the concepts of them and what they could have been instead and yes, they get happy endings too, all of which have been bled for, test their sanity, morality, so on and so forth

Yes it’s due to my preference of couples in epics getting happy endings, but I’m trying to integrate that in a meaningful way

And my AU involving this will eventually becomes its own original story as well

I’m doing my RWBY AU, which will most likely be revamped into an original story since it takes a whole different directions with the characters and world, but it's mostly because with post V3 and now in retrospect I saw what this world, characters, ships and other ideas could have been all in a story I believe is worth telling, and I’ve been looked down on for it by fans saying people wouldn’t find that interesting.

It honestly sounded like this to me

"Whatever you though they could have been, the story, what ships you want, the world, how it all could have played out, its awful and uninteresting and there's something wrong with you for thinking and subjectively feeling that, and you gotta throw it all in the trash unless those we deem worthy of being 'creators' do it first or give you some kind of blessing”

It just feels very elitist and kinda unfair, especially when I’ve read a FanFiction that also shares my sentiments though the author is a little too aggressive about it and gets a bit too political, but still have been well thought out in regards to it, enjoyed by people who truly saw something and have been also dismissed and denigrated by other fans, often labeled as cowardly and uncultured weaklings, myself included along with being called crazy, it feels like we’re basically seen as freaks.

And it feels like the fandom wants me to be like a 1950s sitcom character about my distaste and displeasure

“Oh Ding-Dong-Diddly-Darn and Golly Gee Wally-Wilikers guess I gotta go watch another show and hope the storytelling gods give me what I exactly want next time, sure I saw a different story worth telling, but oh well!”

And it also comes from my personal frustration with what feels like to me an obsession of romance of couples of certain dynamics ending tragically in epic fiction and fans bullying everyone else into things like Disney, Marvel, romcoms and sitcoms.

I don’t mean to sound so sour, but I just cannot agree how these concepts were handled, I just saw something different in these ships, world, and characters could have been and I just can’t settle for what they were. No offense intended to you. With where the canon plot has gone, fine, but perhaps in an alternate plot perhaps

And if you can’t humor that with these characters and concepts as Jaune and Pyrrha, Sun and Blake, Neptune and Weiss, and Ren and Nora in a reimagined RWBY AU, maybe as another set of characters in a different fantastical epic inspired by them perhaps?

Maybe my ideas are nonsensical as oh say The Dragonball Universe or something, but like I said, I saw a different story worth telling

Hey, its me again. I brought this blog back up, due to drama I got into with another blog who I shall remain nameless and I blocked along with their associate as soon as I brought this blog back up(which I'm not sure if that was a good choice) I kinda thought what you said and I feel like I didn't articulate what I meant in terms of adversity and struggle

My point by using Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood was that yes, the characters had adversity and struggle, but it didn't killed off the couples(then again, you could argue Hughes and his wife) along with Star Wars(of course there's Anakin and Padme and Satine), they faced these things together and *lived* instead, and I felt that should have been Arkos, Black Sun, Iceberg, and Renora(not without addressing the problems with said ships of course) along with Oscar making it and a few smaller supporting characters. I gotta get Saints of Remnant up and running, need a good Tumblr theme for it maybe.

It's not that I don't want it all fluffy and no adversity, raised stakes, or struggle or consequences, I just don't go about it like that. And you do not have to agree with this approach or my concepts, you do not have to at all.

I just feel like is such aforementioned necessary qualities we keep defining by our own personal standards along with what concepts can or cannot be and what directions they can and cannot go, which is fine as long as we are honest about it.

But now we pressure that onto others and assume the worst when they don't comply.

Not saying you are, but I feel like to say "those who don't like Pyrrha and Arkos ending tragically want it to be a super fluffy" is kinda of a leap, that's what it sounds like to me. And I apologize if I misunderstood that.

I gotta be honest, I don't really remember this conversation. So anything that I could say could be wildly off the mark for the conversation previous. So I'll just go off on a ramble.

But if we're talking about conflict in relationship, then by definition a relationship without conflict or adversity is fluffy. You can want and like Arkos as a ship, but the reality is that Pyrrha's death was necessary for the plot, as stupid as the plot may or may not have been as it gave Ruby motivation to seek answers. Without Pyrrha dying, Ruby, and subsequently Norra, Jaune and Ren would have no reason to travel across Anima.

There's more to a story than romance, and while you can say there's a certain amount of story potential lost when a character dies, it's equally true when a character lives when they should rightfully have died. There's no sense in keeping a character around when they've fulfilled their narrative purpose and the deaths are more valuable to the structure of the story than their being alive. Ned Stark from Game of Thrones is a brilliant example of this. Sure, had many story possibilities been cut off due to his death? Of course. But the story that can now be told because of his death is so much more interesting than if Ned survived.

Stories where characters survive canon deaths usually are relegated to fanfiction for a reason. Not that their stories are less valuable as being told, but that fanfiction itself has no limitations, no expectation or even standards of quality. Fanfiction can be whatever it needs to be because there's no expectation that it needs to be anything greater than what it is (and what fanfiction is ranges from expertly told epics spanning tens of thousands of pages to the keyboard mash of an intellectually savant five year old). In fanfiction people can explore those alternate stories, but more often than not those will end up being fluff pieces that don't narratively go anywhere or otherwise struggle to get the characters into the plot in a natural way other than the plot dictates for it to happen. RWBY has a lot of writing issues, and does this writing faux pas I've just mentioned, but in this instance, it is good writing. Not because a character died, but because of logical stakes and follow through to get the main characters where they need to be in the plot.

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I love writing for RWBY.

I love writing for a cast, knowing that for each character, someone out there absolutely loves their guts and sees an entire life behind their words and actions.

I could find Raven a baffling and opaque character, only to find someone point out a thread through her seemingly contradictory actions and weave a tale of a mother torn from within, forced to walk away from a war and give up a life she may or may not have wanted - if only she had stayed long enough to know for sure - but whose stony heart is betrayed by a Semblance that always brings her to those dearest to her, to always be there when they most need her.

I could hate or be indifferent to Cardin, only to come across someone retelling a story of how he could go through an arc of rare introspection and guilt over his past actions, and amend that in little scenes throughout the series. To explore an avenue left untreaded, to treat a throwaway bully as more than a plot device and actually force him to grow when the story and most of the fanbase were content to leave him stunted and forgotten. Even if the writer's intention was as pragmatic as "I'm sticking closely to canon and I refuse to remove Cardin on principle, so I'm gonna make him work", that was still someone who treated the importance of a character and their place within a living world far more than RWBY ever did.

I love how I can end up respecting and even loving characters I never cared for just minutes before, just because of another fan igniting the Eureka moment in another fan's head. Every character is like a world unto themselves, because every fan who writes about them paints them with their own eyes and experiences.

This is why, if you ask me, RWBY would be nowhere, nowhere today without its fans. The show gives the seeds, haphazardly strewn onto a barren field with no regard or rationale, and the fans find a way to make them bloom.

RWBY gives us characters; but its fans turn them into people.


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I'm sold on your alternative color palette, a friend of mine pointed out Black and Gold/Yellow is a proved color scheme

"If Yang wore more yellow and less brown, she'd look like an indistinguishable blob!"

"If Yang Wore More Yellow And Less Brown, She'd Look Like An Indistinguishable Blob!"

Here have a shitty color edit of the V5 outfit

"If Yang Wore More Yellow And Less Brown, She'd Look Like An Indistinguishable Blob!"
"If Yang Wore More Yellow And Less Brown, She'd Look Like An Indistinguishable Blob!"

now idk about anyone else, but if you asked me which of the above characters is supposed to be 'Yellow' and which one is "an indistinguishable blob," I should think the answer would be obvious

but maybe that's just me


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