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Fandom Woes: The Reductionist game and well poisoning

“You cannot go on seeing through' things for ever. The whole point of seeing through something is to see something through it... If you see through everything, then everything is transparent.”-CS Lewis

One thing I get really annoyed about toxic fandoms is one thing they love to do is to reduce everything what you like and what makes you happy to basic components and then make it sound stupid(reductio ad absurdum) and make you feel like a stupid and crazy person for liking it.

"Oh, you don't like the Dork Knight and the kind amazonian isolated by society ending tragically? Nor these ships ending tragically? You just want everything to be all sunshine and rainbows and want nothing bad to happen ever. Just go write a sitcom or something."

Or if you don't meet their standards or use the fact it's "this and not that" or its niche to also make it look inherently bad.

"The fact it's an AU, or a fanfic, or its and original story inspired by this, or the fact it's so out of the way and has an audience smaller than ours just shows how bad it is. But whatever makes you happy I guess."

Both of these things what CS Lewis called "Nothing Buttery" or what some would call "Reductionism"

Let's say you explain why you love kissing your girlfriend/boyfriend and you go into things that are not rational

"You just like touching lips with your significant other. All that stuff is all style and no substance."

Which often their standard of "substance" or any other necessary quality they measure by a nebulous standard if not an unfair one and make unfair and unnecessary comparisons.

All it hopes you feel guilty and conform your thoughts and subjective feelings to theirs, or if you don't, they can justify in their minds and to those none the wiser throwing what you love to the dogs when the opportunity hits.

I say this because that's what happened to me in my past experience with fandoms.

And often it has an element of hypocrisy because they like niche things but they will go on how they have every reason in the universe to like something while you just like something different because "it just makes you feel good" and you go into detail and they say "thats not substantial"

You see the psychological scam going on here?

Speaking as a Catholic, it also seems rooted in the modern idea if something cannot be 100% rationalized, its irrational and needs to be suppressed, silenced, or even outright destroyed. But that's another discussion for another day.

Pop-Culture Gnosticism: Why Fandoms are Toxic

We all know about toxic fandoms, and I've had my share of them with the RWBY Fandom and have heard horror stories from others about other fandoms, all of which bizarrely always preach bout positive things.

My personal example is with the FNDM with its preaching about "hope punk" and "trusting love" and claiming their appeal to the tragedy is driven by "ultimately hopeful" motives even though their tone and behavior seem to show the exact opposite.

Now looking back on it along with my faith as a Christian, Catholic to be exact, I have theory the reason why.

It's a form of secular Gnosticism.

Those who don't know what that is, Gnosticism is an esoteric religion/mystery religion thats rooted in having "The Gnosis"(knowledge) for salvation

The gnostic believed that the material world is evil, a prison created by a trickster god known as "The Demiurge" and our bodies themselves prison as well, for we are supposedly pieces of God, "The Monad", being kept from achieving "oneness" with him and the only way to achieve salvation is to gain "gnosis" or "knowledge"

This led to very hedonistic practices(sleeping around, drugs, self mutilation) or puritanical practices(akin to Christian Fundamentalism or Puritanism) in order to become "pure of corruption" or even trying to bend the material world to ones will to bring the world to "oneness" with "the monad" because Gnosticism basically says "Because you have gnosis, you are a piece of God, therefore you are God and whatever you do is justified if its to help all of humanity achieve oneness with the Monad"

During the Church's infancy, the Church fathers fought furiously against heresies that infiltrated the church, and for good reasons.

Gnostics not only try to deny Christ's redemption of the material by becoming man, they were also doing very terrible things in the name of a nebulous greater good while holding double standards against others, doing harm to others and society in the name of virtue.

Sound familiar?

"It's not bad when we do it because we understand it better than you do. It just looks evil or bad to you because you're ignorant. So we get to be nasty to you, because it's you who has the problem and not us."

let me given a personal example with my experience with the toxic FNDM post-V3 Finale which I can go into detail in another post at later time

A considerable amount of people left when the dark turn and the tragic end of Pyrrha and Arkos happened, and a lot of loyal fans used it as an opportunity to viciously mock them and accuse them wanting everything to be all "sunshine and rainbows" all while boasting the morals and messages of the finale and season and make this the end-all-be-all for characters like Pyrrha and Jaune in epic stories. Because they had "the gnosis" and these supposed to be plebeians, wether they were majority or minority, did not. Even having the nerve to act like they can be offended on Monty's behalf and his family even though they never met or spoken to them.

And they became more puritanical and hostile to Blake and Yang ships that are not Bumbleby and rewrites and AUs, such as the case of Fixing RWBY and RWBY: Remnants, and I'm sure RWBY Evermorrow is on their hit-list too. They see it as an obstruction of achieving "oneness" and a form of "impurity"

Bishop Robert Barron explains this kind of phenomena pretty well. It's an appeal to one's pride because humans love the feeling being the select few who "get it" and "we really know what's going on."

This isn't the perfect theory, there is a gnostic pattern here. I can go into detail later on in another post but I hope this explains somewhat of what might be going on.

*someone makes something thats relatively lighter into something relatively darker, usually by a lot*

"Wow! So interesting! A real test of hope!"

*Someone makes something relatively dark into something relatively lighter, usually still having considerably bad things happen*

"Nah, people don't find it interesting. Sorry."

I know I've said before in a long post before

But I think the hatred of fanatics for reimagined RWBY AU's or tweaked rewrites like FRWBY along with other franchises or original works that recycle certain elements for indie stories is simply this.

They accumulate a niche audience that's big enough, not necessarily bigger than the fanatics it may still be smaller, just big enough who these fanatics and literally snobs see as "wrong people" Which in turn means the possibility that maybe the creators of said works and their audience, despite being what these snobs and loonies deem to be "wrong people, might see something that they don't and may not be wrong.

Keep in mind I say "possible" not "an absolute fact"

The very fact its possible is what drives these pricks insane.

"How dare these self-entitled hacks and their vermin audience not abide to us 'Right People'! Their acting entitled to everything like Watts said to Cinder!

It's totally not us being a bunch of self-righteous and self-absorbed hypocrites! We don't think to highly of our own judgement and standards of 'raised stakes' and 'consequences' at all! We are purely objective and rational and above and beyond subjective and personal feelings and those other icky disgusting things!

In fact, can these wrong people take a moment to appreciate how we 'Right People' are above and beyond all that?"

"What you want is like 90% of shonen anime"

Okay, do you have a specific example from that "90%" that has what I had in mind?

"It's 90% of shonen anime"

Okay then it won't be hard for you to reach into said "90%" and give me a specific example.

"...I don't need to it's 90% of sho-"

Seriously, if you can't give me anything that can scratch my specific itches or at the very least "idk, but maybe this might help" then don't open your mouth.

I know my RWBY AU won't be for everyone, and I know I will get some haters, but I would like someone to have my back when that happens.

But last time that happened to me, nobody had my back.

Even the most composed and seemingly rational people telling me to be 'objective' and not being 'self entitled' and talked about 'toxic fandom' seemed to have no problem with me get dogpiled because I thought the direction for rwby was too dark and not liking arkos being tragic despite Pyrrha's name and allusion 'looked so bad' for me.

And even worse happened when a certain Knight launched a harassment campaign on a DeviantART user for not liking Pyrrha's death to the point the man almost considered suicide which he thankfully didn't thanks to his family talking to him.

How did that not get YouTube levels of attention?

Oh yeah thats right, because the Knight was defending the tragedy of Pyrrha and liked Gurren Laggan and Madoka Magica so 'good taste' justifies horrendous behavior even if it might get blood on your hands.

I might go into detail in another post, but there's been the most composed and seemingly rational individuals of RWBY, and other fandoms who will call out thuggish and mobbish behavior, but stand by passively and accept it when it goes after people who they disagree with and things they don't like.

In the words of RetroBlasting on YouTube

"Hypocrisy; thy name is Modern Fandom"

If you don’t care when the mob goes after people who you disagree with and what they love, maybe you’ll care when they go after you and what you love

And you’ll have no sympathy from anyone when that happens

Watts: *gives Cinder a lecture that reeks of self-aggrandizement and hypocrisy*

FNDM: OMG GET HER ASS DOC! SHES SO SELF ENTITLED!

Yang: *Neglects her sister when she’s breaking down while going Gaga over Neko GF*

FNDM:(makes violent art against people who point it out)

"You need to curate your tastes if your tired of being disappointed with shows"

Fine *does so*

"Ugh, you're so close minded and immature, why don't you take risks, broaden your horizons, and cultivate your tastes?"

Okay, why don't you do that too?

"Well I prefer the broad and nitty gritty things these ways, which are broad and risky by default so I don't need to do that."

Fandom Woes: Why people are writing AUs and the scam of “being original”

Many objections I have noticed of reimagined AUs(such as RWBY) is how "they don't resemble the property" and should be "their own thing", and the movie Across The Spider-Verse with the whole Spider-Men AUs and the criticism of multiverses in general.

Speaking from personal experience, there's a reason why they don't make their own thing. It's often because literary snobs have set these people up into a conundrum.

If you make a reimagined AU, they go out of their way to lecture "this does not resemble this thing anymore, make it its own thing."

And if you tweak it, the character and world designs, the names, anything to make it its own thing...

The snobs use greedy reductionism/nothing buttery to reduce it down to the inspirations and influences, especially when it came from a place of distaste and disagreement, and call it "derivative" and "butthurt thinly veiled fan fiction." and tell you to use different source material and "learn to be more original."

The snobs won't let you win.

So if you just keep trying to be “original” and you let these people define what that entails, your just letting others manipulate your creativity and your just dancing around for them like a monkey

You make an reimagined AU, its no longer "recognizable" and you get criticized

You make it its own thing, the inspirations, influences, and motives are pointed out and deemed "derivative" so you also get criticized

You're going to get criticized either way, so you might as well make a choice and stick with it.

And what's more infuriating is these sophists are guilty of hypocrisy

Let me give a personal example with the success of Kamen America, a superheroine I've come to love

She was created as an active disagreement how Captain Marvel was handled, combined with other elements such as Sailor Moon and various Tokusatsu

Once she gained popularity along with her Kamen Corps, many starting bashing her as a "porno captain marvel rip-off" because the creators dared to actively disagree with how a concept was handled, and I was lectured for my concept being "hostile" to RWBY which was born out my disagreement and distaste how its characters and ideas were handled

Yet these very people would be supporting the Evil Superman concept like Homelander and other characters of The Boys

and the Anti-Narnian His Dark Materials Trilogy, the former written by a guy who hates superheroes, and the latter a staunch atheist who can't stand CS Lewis and Christianity

Both who have said things about both subjects that are the textbook definition of "hostile" and yet nobody bats an eye.

Because its not wrong when "the right people" do it towards "the wrong things"

And the excuse they snobs say because these make the concepts objectively "more interesting" backed up with a whole "we-know-better-than-you" attitude which is leading me to hate that word "interesting"

The "Right People" can do whatever they want, but us "Wrong People" gotta follow all these rules and only have what the "Right People" tell us what we can have, how we create, and what we enjoy.

Then they turn around and lecture you about being "entitled" when the only thing your often guilty of being "entitled" to is your opinions and feelings, which last time I checked, people are entitled to.

My Two Cents: Hypocricy of "Being original"

Another editorial which I give my perspective of another factor why people are writing AU fan fictions and not original material all to the detriment of indie creators and to the benefit of big corporate entertainment The Factor? Hypocritical Literary Intellectuals who will criticize fanfic writers for making AUs "unrecognizable to the source material" and original works that recycle concepts, especially out of dissent as "derivative thinly veiled fan fiction" while supporting creatives who do the exact same thing. Because its different when "The Right People" do it to the "Wrong Things"

Kinda funny when snobs consider your work or what you enjoy a bad because its only enjoyed by a smaller audience which then they pride themselves on they liking something thats enjoyed by the masses "it speaks to the human condition"

Then if you like something thats resonates by a larger audience, they flip it to "enjoyed by the unwashed masses" which then these prigs boast like something thats niche its because "we enlightened few understand something deeper and higher."

When it was the reverse logic 5 minutes ago

Cliche, niche, broad, what makes money, and tampering around with concepts in dissent and distaste is "bad" unless "the right people" like it and get what *they* want

These people resort to nothing buttery and labeling to stuff they dislike and we gotta take their word for it 

While the likes of us gotta justify what we like and want by bending over backwards, jump through hoops, and do jumping jacks and somersaults

And they might dismiss it anyway as “subjective feelings” and “unsubstantial” which once again, they don’t elaborate and we just gotta take their word, and we’re supposed to abide to their nebulous measures of what is “objectively well written”

Reminds me how Jesus describes the Pharisees in Matthew 23: 4

“They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.”

This is why I'm so skeptical of people who talk about being "objective" when it comes to these things, because their logic is fluid and conforms to whatever make their way right and everyone else's wrong. Even when they end up contradicting themselves.

Like Andrew Ketterley from The Magician’s Nephew, they’re a bunch of peddling magicians who think because they themselves are "objective" by default because they "know objective things" they don't need to follow the rules like everyone else because everything they do is “perfectly rooted in objective reality”, they alone are “objective” and everyone else is “subjective” and therefor “subject(ed)” to their “objective” will

When “Objective” mean things that apply to *everybody*

Its like Gnosticism,

They (G)now, with a “G” and you don’t, so its different when its them

Fandom Woes: Restricting Creatives and Policing Potential Audiences

This is something of an Electric Boogaloo to my previous posts in my problems with Fandoms.

One major complaint I hear a lot from Fandoms wether be Star Wars, Warhammer, Marvel, DC, and so on, which is big companies changing these works fundamentally their unrecognizable and "fanfiction" and the solution is to GateKeep and tell others to do their own things, and plenty of YouTube personalities have pointed out the root of this problem

And this is a heavily opinionated post, so read at your own risk

But there is another factor which I briefly went over in one of my posts

A lot of literary snobs will have you dancing around between writing reimagined AU fanfic which they will chide you being "unrecognizable to the source material" and when you take what you liked and what you wanted and make it it's own thing they brand it as "derivative thinly veiled fanfiction" and will get all pissy if it takes jabs at the inspiration, all while they support creators do the exact same thing to things they don't like.

But also when you point out the potential audience, in my experience those "intellectuals" will proceed to insult them as uncultured and stupid unwashed masses or minority of freaks(and they often flip flop between the two inconsistently) who they can't stand breathing the same air as them.

For example, way back when I was younger and explained what I liked about Warhammer 40k and what I didn't like, most of the fandom used their brains and were civil with me about it in their disagreement.

But then some among the fandom told me I should just shut up and go watch Star Wars and Lord of The Rings.

And if I may repeat a point, Iconic Comics created Kamen America because they didn't like what was done with Captain Marvel, so they took what they liked about her and what they wanted, combined other elements to create Kamen America and The Kamen Corps

Which then people started screaming Kamen America was just a "porno Captain Marvel rip-off" all while supporting The Boys which has an evil Superman and nasty rendition of superheroes written by a guy who said hostile things about the genre

I expressed about what I liked about RWBY and what I didn't like and what I wanted and how I was gonna used what I liked and wanted to make an reimagined AU and OG work and got bashed as "leeching off Monty's work" and "RWBY Christian Propaganda" and I should just shut up and go watch Marvel or Disney, or if I do it, I gotta be apologetic and ashamed about it and accept the "Consequences" which to me, comes off as a threat.

Which these same people also cheer on the Anti-Narnian His Dark Materials Trilogy written by a guy who hates CS Lewis and Christianity with a passion.

These people don't want others to tamper around with what they love, but they don't want them to take what they like and what they wanted to make their own thing either, all while they cheer on those who do the same thing with stuff us "wrong people" like.

and I have a theory why this is.

The "Intellectual Elite" of Literature do not like it when "The Wrong People" take matters into their own hands, at least in ways they do not approve of, or unless the dissident does it while professing its ultimately nothing compared to what "the right people" do. Especially now that we are in a climate in which people on the fence are more receptive to indie voices.

These prigs want to lock things down and keep all dissent under their control to keep things nice and copacetic for their own ego.

And here's the reality check for these people, and I don't know how many I speak for

I do not give a pingas how "objective" and "educated" you are about these things, I and other creatives are under little to no obligation to regulate our creativity and force ourselves to change our feelings and keep our mouths shut and follow your little hypocritical rules because you think you know better than everyone else.

We are under little to no obligation to not take what we liked and what we wanted and not take jabs at the inspiration, especially when you all support creatives who do the exact same thing towards things you don't like.

We are under little to no obligation to "broaden our audiences" when in the past it left us getting the short end of the stick so many times when you refuse to do the same with what you create and enjoy.

And by your own logic, especially when you say "Its not gonna change canon or its 'trajectory'" then why do you need to come in and police everyone else and lecture how horrible we all are for liking things that you don't, while lecturing us about doing what your doing right now? If you were truly secure in what you knew to be the objective end-all-be-all, then you'd never had gone out of your way to open your mouth.

And if you decide to have us "own up to the consequences of our actions" which we both know is a veiled threat to punish people who do things you don't like, or be complacent when abuse happens towards those you disagree with, then I and a good number of people will fight back if it escalates to harassment, bypassing our "curations" and slander.

and I can hear these so-called critics say

"Well, what if you make your stuff and you turn out to be wrong?"

If we don't do so well, nothing happens, its not gonna be like Across The Spider-Verse where a big-ass hole is gonna rip through reality.

If we are wrong, it's our ass. This will be done with money out of our own pocket and at none of your expense.

Take your own advise

"It's not for you, its not gonna change canon or its trajectory, disengage the material and move on.”

Because that advise only works on Social Media, when you are fine with canon is going

Snobs: Nobody finds that kind of a story/idea interesting, sorry.

Me: *points* there's people clamoring for this, so there is a potential audience.

Snobs: Those are wrong people, they are too stupid and crazy to know what good storytelling is. They should just go consume (approved thing)

It’s rooted in gnostic thinking, they alone have the gnosis of things, so what they think and feel is all what matters

Snobs: Nobody finds that kind of a story/idea interesting, sorry.

Me: *points* there's people clamoring for this, so there is a potential audience.

Snobs: Those are wrong people, they are too stupid and crazy to know what good storytelling is. They should just go consume (approved thing)

Fandom and Literary Woes: The Arrogance of The Information Age and Literary Intellectuals

One thing I've noticed with the RWBY fandom and pretty much modern pop-culture and literary intellectuals is this nasty habit of locking concepts and tropes down into theories and formulas and try to completely rationalize what is "interesting" and what's "boring" and ruling everything else as corruptions or worthless little parasites upon what's the supposed "objective reality" and the end-all-be-all of a concept.

My first experience with this was with the "literary experts" coming out to rule out what's the end-all-be-all of concepts like Jaune and Pyrrha and Arkos in epic fantasy/sci-fi after the RWBY Volume 3 Finale

Baically

"Arkos ended tragically worked, ergo all couples and characters in epic stories like Jaune and Pyrrha(the dork knight and the warrior woman isolated by society) especially if they are directly inspired by them must also end that way to raise steaks and consequences, and they only way they can have a happy ending is in a sitcom/romcom. Doesn't matter what the epic story is about, what happens, their roles, or why, or why it makes audiences happy, if they don't end up dead in an epic, it means nothing."

Any anyone who actively disagreed either was exiled to RWBY Chibi, or been implied

"Okay, do your thing(AU/OG Work), but keep in mind, it ultimately means nothing, it contributes nothing, its nothing but a worthless little parasite upon the glorious meaningful tragedy that is Arkos and same can be said what you plan to do with the rest of RWBY.

You have no objectively good reason what makes you happy unlike us who have every objectively good reason in the cosmos for our satisfaction and contentment."

with and underlying gnostic attitude of

"Because we, the experts, know what things truly are, what they can ever be, and in what specific ways and genres and you don't."

and much like Andrew Ketterley, they are often arrogant and hypocritical and are not bound by the rules of logic like everyone else.

"Men like me, who possess hidden wisdom, are freed from common rules just as we are cut off from common pleasures.  Ours, my boy, is a high and lonely destiny.”-Andrew Ketterley, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Magician's Nephew

When snobs consider your work or what you enjoy a bad because its only enjoyed by a smaller audience which then they pride themselves on they liking something thats enjoyed by the masses "it speaks to the human condition"

Then if you like something thats resonates by a larger audience, they flip it to "enjoyed by the unwashed masses" which then these prigs boast like something thats niche its because "we enlightened few understand something deeper and higher."

When it was the reverse logic 5 minutes ago

Cliche, niche, broad, what makes money, and tampering around with concepts in dissent and distaste is "bad" unless "the right people" like it and get what they want

Because they alone are the alchemists who can turn lead in to gold

Which is why they say its "interesting" to make evil superman out spite for superheroes like that in The Boys but a sexy magical girl Captain Marvel with her own set os sailor scouts like in Kamen America, especially made out of dissatisfaction and distaste how the inspiration was handled is "derivative" because the "experts" supposedly know what's the objective end-all-be-all reality of a concept and we don't.

They know, with a capital "G" and we don't.

And because they have "The Gnosis" and perfectly rooted in "objective reality" logic is fluid to whatever makes their way right.

They hav exclusive dominion over these concepts and tropes

Because again, they have "The Gnosis" and we don't.

Because it’s the Information Age and we have so much info, those who are oh-so objective and intelligent can use said information to find what’s the apex of a concept or a trope rule out everything else.

All as they judge, shame, and lecture us peons high up in their ivory towers hundreds of yards away on social media now to supposedly stay “objective” and not catch the disease of “subjective feelings” which they never elaborate

And like RetroBlasting said in his doing nothing video it’s no longer the analogue world and they know better than anyone else so they see our stuff on their feed and stop and jump in and lecture us

And and the critics often the resort to greedy reductionism(aka “Nothing Buttery”) to reduce our stuff to whatever makes it sound stupid/immoral which then they proceed to gloss over, ignore, and label the details

I honestly kinda hate this movie because the damage its done to fandom discourse it's unleashed

In my experience anyone who doesn't like something in a show and makes AU fanfic gets this smug little meme

they don't want to communicate and open a dialogue, they want to sit down, lecture, and shoot people down and smugly congratulate themselves like they committed some act for the greater good.

I think thats whats modern fandom is now, lecturing everyone up and down and all around and high up on an ivory tower because "muh canon event". These people don't want to relate to anyone because they want to be "above it all"

There's no real dialogue anymore

A new video where I give an alternative perspective of the causes of Fandom Tourism and Gatekeeping and the alternative solutions

Fandom Woes: Self-Righteousness of Modern Tragedy

I think I want to explain my case better about my beef with modern tragic/more-bitter-than-sweet fantasy/sci-fi, such as RWBY, Code Geass, and D.Gray-Man and it’s not necessarily the stories in of themselves

It’s the Self-Righteous Martyr/God-Complex of toxic contingent within these fandoms, to me they seem to ultimately not care the message the tragedy and suffering of these stories are trying to convey, but rather enjoy them and flaunt them for their own self-righteous megalomania

And I know that sounds hyperbolic, but it’s the tone, attitude and behavior of these people that give me that impression

For example with Code Geass and RWBY and the tragic deaths of Euphemia Li Britannia, Shirley Fenette, Lelouch, Pyrrha, and Penny respectively

As soon as that happened, many among the fandom would come out and theatrically proclaim the necessity of these tragic deaths, how it is so realistic an shows “thats life”, and brag how ultimately hopeful the stories still are and how it taught them how to be oh-so hopeful despite the odds, and I can see them act that way towards the burden of Allen Walker if the fandom was still active today as it was back then.

In any these cases, these people act as if they themselves were righteous martyrs, prophets of God,Life,Reality, usually the latter two because they claim "that's life" or "that's reality" all in a tone that reeks of holier-than-thou arrogance and vanity...

"Of my virtue, I am justly proud..."

Or worse, they speak with ghoulish glee and bragging about it gives them a feeling of power over these fictional characters as if they themselves are God almighty and it bleeds into how they treat real people who didn't like it by passive aggressively or belligerently belittling, judging, shaming, gaslighting, and sneering at them, implying the worse reasons of their distaste, and tell them to go watch a sitcom or slice-of-life anime or something

Then they are quick to condemn other fictional characters like Suzaku from Code Geass for being such a SOB and cheer on Watts putting Cinder on Full Blast, all while implying themselves to be such better people than both

Then they brag about what story was told with these ideas and concepts to be the end-all-be-all of these concepts in any fantasy/sci-fi epics that have even the slightest tinge of darkness and conflict and, lock them down into little theories, formulas, dogmas, and rule out everything else as a corruption, heresy, or a worthless little parasite, because they themselves are the infallible, all-knowing, and all-seeing “literary experts” who got everything all figured out and everyone else, wether the majority or minority, as peon reprobates.

Which then they pressure onto creatives with less power than them, especially when they disagree. All while they themselves can do whatever they want and do whatever they want with things they are unhappy with because “we know better than you”

I have experienced this expressing my ideas of what RWBY could have been instead, AU and Original work and been told it could only work as a slice of life anymore or a sitcom, or otherwise what I do with this stuff is ultimately meaningless and heresy and spiteful

All while they supported things like His Dark Materials Trilogy which is the Anti-Narnia written by a Atheist who hates CS Lewis and Christianity with a passion because he made the concepts more “interesting”

Or how making a sexy magical Captain Marvel with her own sailor scouts like Kamen America and her Kamen Corps because the creators were unhappy with what was done with the concept of Captain Marvel is nothing but a "Porno Captain Marvel Rip-Off"

while making an evil superman like Homelander and other nasty rendition of superheroes in "The Boys" by a guy who despises superheroes is totally fine because he knows what's the "interesting" end-all-be-all of these concepts.

All these things I describe can be summed up to figures in the Bible, The Pharisees

“They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.”-Matthew 23:4

They brag about the virtues and necessity of tragedy at the expense of fictional characters and real people, and boss around other creatives on what they do with this stuff, especially when they are unhappy, all whilst they themselves do whatever they want because they are supposedly so “objective”, they don’t need to follow the rules like everyone else

These prigs will tell others to “broaden their horizons” and give them the benefit of the doubt, but will refuse to give others the exact same courtesy because once again, “We know better than you.”

These self righteous people seem to only enjoy these stories not because of the message the tragedy and suffering is trying to convey, thats just a shield for them, but rather for their moral superiority and the thrill of power over others and being the measure of all things, for they know how life exactly works for specific individuals in specific genres and they know how to carry it out exactly.

They know with a "G"(gnosis) what's the end-all-be-all of specific concepts in ideas in specific genres and how to carry them out and they alone are the alchemists who can turn lead in to gold and everyone else is subjective and suffer from false consciousness.

In fact, I compare them to Digory’s Uncle Andrew in The Magician’s Nephew who though he could control other people by using their values against them to get them to do what he wants, while he himself doesn’t need to follow the rules, and basked in self congratulation of being a “great magician”

“Men like me, who possess hidden wisdom, are freed from common rules just as we are cut off from common pleasures. Ours, my boy, is a high and lonely destiny.”

And while we’re at it and Code Geass is on the table, let me point to one of the antagonists of Akito The Exiled, Gene Smilas

He was the mentor and surrogate parent of Lelia Macal who sought to bring Europe to a brighter future, often invoking the tale of the venerable St.Joan of Arc.

But when the time came to supposedly save EU, did he bet on his own life like the Saint did?

No.

He decided to position himself as God and Lelia as Joan of Arc, planning for her to die as a martyr for his own gain and become Emperor of Europe, because she happened to be a young lady with good morals who wasn't afraid to fight alongside her troops.

Like Uncle Andrew, Gene was nothing more than a peddling magician, but worse, he saw himself as God who controlled Lelila's destiny all while basking in delusions of righteousness in his quest for power. While Uncle Andrew was at least scared straight by Narnia.

To use a description of the Pharisees from the TV Series Jesus of Nazareth(1977) but slightly tweaked,

He bowed before the Story of Joan of Arc, but violated the heart of it.

And that's why I am so irritable about Tragedy in these kinds of stories, it feels like they are no longer enjoyed out of humility, compassion, truth, goodness, and beauty.

But rather out of pride, vanity, power, cruelty, and moral superiority

and sometimes it tempts me want to write my inspired stories in a way that gives them all the finger rather than for what I saw these ideas and concepts could have been, just so I can give them a taste of their own medicine

I know that's wrong, but these people test my patience, especially when they keep invading other people's spaces, bypass other people's "curations" because "there's nothing subjective about this, I need to correct and educate you", and getting away with this kind of nasty behavior

Because they are perfectly “objective” and everyone else is “subjective” therefore “subjected” to their “objective” will.

@beatricehawthorne @vitamaeternum

Someone: *Makes a reimagined RWBY AU, especially out of dissatisfaction and disappointment*

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