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THE HARGREEVES

We didn’t choose this life, we’re just living it.

some people keep saying that five is such a cold, unfeeling character, and sure he's shown that he can be from time to time, but let's not forget that he also

told luther that he was still a young man and five would hate to see him waste his life

reminded diego in his own way of what he loved best about eudora patch, and that murdering her killers would never be the way she wanted to be honored

told allison that if ever they got out of the apocalypse alive, he would be honored to meet his niece, therefore making her smile

spent 45 years in the future and what's the first thing he does upon returning? compliment klaus' skirt

was the only one to recognize that klaus had time-travelled, continuously asked him for his help all throughout season 1, and even told him about his first love, delores

shouted ben's name worriedly upon seeing the ruins of the academy in the bad future

reminded vanya that "rapists can climb" and that she should lock her windows at all times, and that she was the only one he could trust because he knows she will always listen to him, no matter how much time they've spent apart

outright said that as shitty as their family used to be, he still tried everything just to get back to them

loved delores so much that he carried her around for four decades, and as soon as he got back to 2019, immediately went to her department store display and admitted that he missed her a lot

said "pogo?" in the smallest voice ever and tried to give him a hug, despite making it pretty clear in the past that he doesn't exactly encourage being touched

was the only sibling whose room vanya didn't blow up because he was always nice to her, even though he was extremely powerful and she was, for all they knew, ordinary

always made his siblings feel like he was better than them--and knows it--but was sensitive enough to never make vanya feel like anything less than a wonderful human being

was outright called vanya's "sole confidante" and the only one she would perform her new violin pieces for

never wanted to harm vanya outright, even though he knew that she would always be the reason the apocalypse happens, and insisted that they take her with them so they could finally start treating her right instead

told vanya that her concerns and love for sissy and harlan were valid, and that no one is insignificant

simply shrugged when luther told his adult self in season 2 that vanya was the catalyst for the apocalypse, and said "fair enough" without any resentment whatsoever because he of all people knows how much crap his favorite sister went through when they were younger

pushed luther out of the way of a crumbling ceiling, despite the fact that luther could take it and he was already bone-tired from killing the board and dealing with the after-effects of paradox psychosis

was already dying of multiple gunshot wounds by the end, but one look at his family's cooling bodies gave him enough strength to rewind time so they could have another shot at going back to the present and being an actual family

and in conclusion, is basically a grumpy old man who just has so much love for his family that the idea of getting back to them gave him enough strength to survive not one but two freaking apocalypses, one after the other, and come out more or less victorious by the end

Bill Nye for most of his career: Imma do science for kids. Science without politics. Nice, tame science for the kiddos.

Bill Nye now:

Currently thinking about how one of the most heart-breaking parts of the show is that Five loves his siblings deeply, but they don’t realise it.

Five was alone for forty-five years. And as Luther once put it, it’s the being alone that breaks you. Five’s only companion in the apocalypse was someone his mind literally made up for him to love and be loved by, and at the Commission, he worked by himself. This makes his siblings the only people who ever truly loved him, in the entirety of his fifty-eight years on earth, and everything he does in the show is, at its core, out of love for them.

And they don’t know that, and a lot of that is because of Five himself, as forty-five years of solitude take a toll on your social and communication skills. Five is literally shown to be ready to kill for his siblings, and to die for his siblings, and to outdo himself with his time-travelling skills for his siblings, and they don’t know it’s for them, because he doesn’t tell them. When Five says to his younger-but-older-looking self that there wasn’t a single day in the apocalypse where they didn’t think about their family, the camera cuts to Luther looking surprised at the admission. Five is brash and rude and arrogant and exasperated, especially with his siblings, so that’s how they know him, and don’t see or don’t bother to look for anything deeper motivating his actions.

Literally all the siblings (except Ben) have called Five an asshole, or something equivalent, over the course of the show, and he usually deserves it on surface-level, but there is something more fundamental at play here, namely that he doesn’t fully grasp the depth their childhood abuse and his siblings don’t understand the trauma he suffered for forty-five years. Five has no idea what they went through after he got lost in the future, how Reginald’s abuse has stunted them all in different ways, and is thus surprised when they don’t all drop everything to help him stop the apocalypse. His siblings, on the other hand, don’t really seem to care about how forty-five years with the certain knowledge that everyone and everything he knew and loved is dead affected Five, they don’t understand why he is the way he is. There is a big sense of a rift between Five and the rest of his siblings because they don’t really understand what the other has been through, and how would they? Five has been back for less than three weeks, and he has barely opened up to any of his siblings, or they to him. He tries to save them, again and again, but they are not aware what is went through, is still going through.

And, overall, they have more history with each other than with him, and it shows in the little details. Out of all the siblings, Five is the only one without a reunion scene in Season 2 where someone is happy to see him. He is the only one in the Hargreeves household (including Pogo, Grace and even goddamn Reginald) who has not gotten a hug in twenty episodes. When Diego does his whole speech to Lila about dangerous people loving him back in the last episode, the camera cuts to every single one of his siblings. Except for one. Because Diego doesn’t know that Five loves him, loves all of them. None of them do.  

going thru phone pics and found this thing that was tacked up next to the toaster at my old job, if anyone needs some light toast eating reading material