Honestly Think I Needed This Clarification. While I Do Know The Difference, I Am Learning Some Stuff

Honestly think i needed this clarification. While I do know the difference, I am learning some stuff here, and understanding the hermit fandom here and a little bit anywhere else a bit better?? I don't really interact with the community of any fandoms much but this definitely helps since I'm a DSMP fan who's migrated to Hermitcraft and such. I don't think it ever really hit me that c! and cc! don't necessarily mean anything to the content creators themselves and that there isn't actually a difference to them since in a way they are just playing minecraft normally with friends, while the Dream SMP is semi-scripted with their own canon (c!) characters. It's like one of those things you don't really notice until someone points it out to you.

I've been kinda trying to get more into the community though so really glad this appeared on my dashboard, since any other instance of a fandom I've been in, I don't actually do anything with the community, and I'm just kinda there until I get sweeped away by another fandom, and the cycle repeats.

Kinda a little dumb though in my opinion when they went against Cleo, who is a hermit?? Who the non-shippers were like hanging onto every word to like add to probably a whole doc bullet-point list of everything anyone has said? I mean I'd like to think the ones who really did care and were worrying about if the CCs were not comfortable with this understood when Cleo said that-? I mean I wasn't there so I can't really say anything, but I think the non-shippers were kinda just pushing their own believes that 'nO! THiS isNT RIGHT' and eventually getting blinded by that fact to where they did the thing to even a CC who has to do with the boundaries, or at least a part of it.

It makes me feel kinda glad I've been able to avoid all of the topic sides of the fandom (and being able to avoid any harrassment from anyone), but I also haven't posted or written of anything that might be boundary breaking..? Anything I might've was over either a fictional character from a video game, a book series [with a ship that's either almost happened or is technically canon], and that was it, and now I've kinda joined the fanfic writers of the whole thing about RPF and Non-RPF [is there a word for that?] thing and the whole shipping situation (which honestly I haven't actually seen anything?) but in the Hermitcraft and Dream SMP fandoms (there are others but it either branches off of one of the fandoms, or is smaller and kinda dead)

I've just been probably lucky enough for any possibly shippy mcyt fics to be in a non-explicit way, and therefore the non-shippers and the shippers can think of it as either as a ship, or not as a ship? or maybe I've just been lucky with the people that find my content, idk

though hopefully nothing will happen? i dont wanna jinx any of us though but like..

Hermitcraft to me has always had a much more relaxed vibe, and I'd like to think the fans reflect that vibe as well while having energetic moments and stuff. In that way, I've seen much more fluff then I have angst. (honestly the discourse that happened then doesnt necessary match this, but not all fans match the vibe of a show. There are probably hardcore hermit fans though somewhere.)

Dream SMP though is a lot more tenser at times while there are some funny bits, the roleplay there gets really dark sometimes, and I think some of the fans are a little hardcore? I think fans of any fandom tend to adopt some of the qualities of it overall. In this way, I have seen more angst then I have fluff- kinda. It's an odd mix, but I think there are more dead doves, where people delve more into the disturbing bits of the SMP.

I think though, that the Dream SMP has a pretty big fandom [it had a big popularity boost. for hermitcraft though im not sure], and therefore the toxic non-shippers have a harder time trying to do anything and therefore eventually stop at one point maybe? i dunno. maybe its a 'out of sight, out of mind' scenario

but for the hermits, I think it might be a little more personalized?? you dont need to watch everyones pov to get a grasp of every single persons story that then leads into anothers story in the dream smp to be able to understand the entire storyline. You can just watch a hermit of your choice. I think in that way that a lot of them tend to stick to a single creators fandom, like Grian's for example with Evo and the third life series and then just his hermitcraft series from his POV, where I think a lot of people kinda just interact with Grian watchers instead of branching out and actually going into the hermitcraft fandom and interacting with other hermit watchers.

This way, while I think the fandom might be a little close-knit, that things might get a little out of hand when they actually go and branch out to see what the fandoms up to and come across shipping content which I think almost everyone is told is just wrong, and while that is correct (< you shouldnt act out without knowing if the creator is okay or not okay with it), I think just has people going against each other due to their beliefs, like religious beliefs for example, that having sex before marriage is a sin or something (I'm an atheist, so I apologize if I get anything wrong- I think its in Christianity though... Well for some people?-) which gets to really heated debates when questioning really if something is right or wrong, which then leads to the backlash given to Cleo when her thoughts conflicted with a persons belief.

This is all just theory and speculation though. It sucks that what happened then happened, but the least we can do is prove that we've changed? That we can actually handle this now and that we understand that if we don't like shipping, just don't look at it? Don't interact, don't send death threats and all of that??

If a CC ever does decide to interact with us again (I think Bdubs has been in like Hermit twitter and I think maybe tumblr too..??? I dont know) we should try to show that we can manage and won't give such an uproar against their opinions regardless if they go against our own or not.

if something does happen though, I'll be a safe spot- Anything discourse related will most likely be me asking what's happening?. I won't really talk about triggering topics unless I put a warning and therefore you know what you're getting into. I'll just kinda be sticking to my occasional fic recommendations, my own fanfics, headcanons, thoughts, and all the like if you kinda need to fill your dashboard with non-discourse related stuff.

thank you for reading this lol-?? go give the original some love tho

hi vaguely serious messy post about hermitblr and new members and just. letting everyone know that we’ve had history with cc interaction on here before that i think would be useful for people to learn about

Trafficblr/Hermitblr has seen a lot of growth lately, largely in part from people migrating over here from the DSMP side of MCYTblr. This in of itself is completely fine! New people jumping onto the bus with us are always welcome, and the growth of the community as a whole is really nice to see.

However, I have noticed a lot of these newer blogs sharing the same very specific behaviours, and if possible, I’d like to just make a few things about the community and our history clear. Because this isn’t DSMP, and the CCs here handle content creation and their own fanbases very differently to them.

While I’m not going to go in-depth on 2019 since I don’t have nearly as much information about it as other people do, I would like to say that back then, Hermitblr was kind of an active war zone. It was comparable to how Hermittwt is now, with infighting about shipping and similar topics being the norm (however in Hermitblr’s case many of these argument were far more personal due to the smaller fandom size). What I want to point out specifically however, is when one of the CCs, Cleo, was thrown into the community infighting. I don’t remember the specifics of it, but she was sent an ask asking about shipping, and her opinions on it, and eventually dealt with so much backlash that she was forced to leave the site entirely (this post here has a slightly more comprehensive summary, if need be).

I’m just a little concerned, because there seems to have been a slight increase in that demographic of people recently. Specifically, members of the community who want to rely on CCs to dictate what happens in fan spaces; for them to give us bullet point lists of what their exact boundaries are for every single situation.

This rarely ends well. As in, it almost always just causes infighting and hostility. There will always be people making content that will “break boundaries”, regardless of any creator’s wishes. However, this is usually mitigated by the fact that many of these CCs aren’t on Tumblr (at least not anymore….mostly). The problem arises when members of the community attempt to act as Heroes Of Justice, and go out of their way to send asks to other blogs, informing them exactly of how they’ve broken the boundaries of some 40 year old adult. This is all despite the fact that said adult will….never see whatever post went against their wishes. It just encourages policing and this weird superiority….thing, where despite the lack of content creators, people are still fighting to make sure that the site is clean from any possibly upsetting posts.

I say this all while also acknowledging that many of the creators in this sphere also don’t have a very comprehensive understanding of how fandom interacts with their “characters”. To them, “shipping” has always been RPF, and there are so many other aspects of the community that simply can’t be explained easily, as they haven’t been immersed in this culture like we have. This is to say that asking for “boundaries” is likely to get you a very confused and unhelpful answer, as the Hermits have always had a very different way of interacting and viewing their fanbase than the DSMP creators do. There is no “c!” or “cc!” to them, to put it simply.

Essentially, the Hermits are adults. They’ve been doing content creation for years, and I can guarantee you they’ve seen worse things in their lives than art of their Minecraft character kissing another Minecraft character. They’ve dealt with this shit before, and if they wanted it to stop, they’re free to make a post about it whenever want. And yet, they haven’t. They leave fandom up to us. Boundaries and rules and infighting and just…all of that? Let’s leave it to the Twitter users, please. Post what you want, make sure to tag your posts correctly, and we’ll all be fine. 

Also, while I’m going to try not to rehash any discourse about inviting CCs to Tumblr, I also do just want to implore you guys to consider that the environment on Hermittwt is partially the way it is because of the active presence of the Hermits there, with people flocking for attention or a single notice, and obsessively checking posts to make sure they’re not potentially “boundary-breaking” and such. Please just consider that many people are here to avoid the dynamics of that site. Tumblr is a site for fans, not for the CCs. So we create content here for ourselves, and not for them. Having creators join almost always leads to the culture of their fanbase on here changing, with content posted in the maintags being catered more towards them rather than the fanbase. (This isn’t to say that they can’t join!! But at least keeping in mind why many of us are here in the first place and weighing that against potential CC interactions would mean a lot).

I fear that my point may have been lost a little bit, but I hope my explanation at least brings a little bit of light to why many members of the community here are wary of Creators coming over to the site, and also of how many newer blogs tend to treat the CCs. Hermitblr has had some really bad history in the past when it comes to this stuff, and seeing newer fans bring over similar ideas from DSMPblr just worries me a little bit.

TL:DR - Just…please treat the Hermits like the adults they are, and keep in mind they have a very different dynamic with their fanbases to the DSMP creators. Asking for “boundaries” and granting CCs control of the fanbase will likely lead you nowhere; attempting to police fanspaces here just brings up bad memories of times when Hermitblr was a much more miserable place to be in. Plus, if you want CC interactions, please just go to twitter. Nobody here wants to deal with an attempted “cleanse” of the site to make it more palatable to CCs.

Writing From Experience except i get really personal

so.

ive met the concept of.. writing based off of experiences or things youve done

like uh, theres this fic im reading where theres two camp counselors in a summer camp

and the writer went to summer camp

ww

I could try? i dunno its an idea, but I have fuckin 4+ docs of unfinished works and oneshots that I still gotta do but I dont have the motivation????

but the thing is is that nothing ive done is book worthy- it is not chobblesome

I mean, I dont do anything.. I play games all day and stay inside???

Uh. I've been to a wedding but it was boring and I don't remember what happened

I've gone out of state before and plan to go out of country (except I've been procrastinating for years) but I dont remember anything about it

I mean. I've been in foster care before ? People write a lot of foster care stories and like.. I mean I somewhat remember what it was like, but it was only for a few days and I only went to one home before eventually coming back to my actual home with my parents n stuff ? it was kinda a situation that I actually didn't understand or comprehend because I was pretty young but now I kind of do? It was kinda a little more serious then I thought as little kid me..? (uh.. the police got involved and it was a huge fucking mess. I got to be in a police car tho and they bought me mcdonalds so that was fun.)

There wasn't.. anything interesting that happened there. It would be boring. Bro so many foster care fics are about the teen and I'm just sat here with my POV of the child u-u

i mean though... sure.. children are kinda dumb, i wont sugarcoat it

itd probably get annoying fast

uhm. the only other thing i guess would be interesting is.. well nothing really, its just that I have a shit load of trauma packed into me that would make a bad and very triggering fic

TW: Mention of gr00ming, miNOr aaAaAAA mention of the act of kermit sewer slide sobs

um. it doesnt really affect me anymore because I've just kinda gotten used to it, but so. grooming. woo pair that with manipulation

hold on let me just find a character and traumatize the fuck out of them haha wooo does that count as dead dove do not eat? if i .. do a really dark fic where a character goes through ..what i did, except i just overdramatize it a little bit and exaggerate a lot to the best of my ability (i still have DMs of that time lmao but I don't think I can ever get used to those, it kinda makes me very uncomfortable.)

would it even be readable? I dont fucking know

The thing is is that everyone thinks that minor/minor sexually is fucking wrong

and I'd agree

but then I can't really ventfic lmao imagine I get hate for doing minor/minor even though its a fucking ventfic where I project onto characters -

lMAOOOO also probably really cursed

but then so id have to do it to an adult.. ?

bro which fandoms am i in that have a toxic relationship that i can write?

like nONe

unless i made one up??

bro sobs

actually i think the guilt tripping ive gone through has been done before in a disc duo but its like 'but arent we friends' or some shit like that in somewhere?? idk

would you guys be okay if i did a ship fic? i dont i cant do OCs man

but i dont know if ill even do it its just thought.

bro the toxic thing that comes to mind is dream and wilbur because dream being a manipulative piece of shit while wilbur is one of like the only characters i can and am comfortable writing the POV of besides the MINORS and then theres hermitcraft with its really healthy community sobs

i dont think wilburs boundaries are even comfortable with nsfw??

bro i dont even know if i can write anything sexual, ive never done it before

id probably write it as anonymous but not dream and wilbur?? id ont fucking know

how do i ventfic if i dont have a people

i mean jschlatt and quackity- is that pumpkin duo? id ont fucking know

they're... toxic..?? ive never written either jschlatt or quackity but you know the deal, jschlatt would probably be the user and quackity the victim.

oh fuck why can i just imagine it i can see it. (why does it work?)

fuck

agh

im.. probably going to have to reference back to the DMs to remember how things went and trigger the shit out of myself

my mental health boutta go to shit haha

anyway im gonna just... if i ever write it i'll try to put it on anonymous

i dont know

my first anonymous fic woo. and kinda trauma dump ig

i dont wanna be shamed for like

i dunno.

beIng a SLUT hAHAH -

oh i think i reached uncomfortable territory for me.

i think though that

it would probably be a dead dove

honestly thinking about it

trying to write minor on minor makes me feel sick

thats funny

guess adult on adult it is .

thats not really any better

also i dont know quackity or jschlatts boundaries sobs

do i just not do sexual shit? i dont fucking know

nevermind their boundaries arent really comfortable with that sobs

quackitys fine with fanfic but jschlatt i dont think it issss ??? GUYS HOW DO I DO VENTFIC WITHOUT INTRUDING ON A BOUNDARY

and i just

bro theres like no other character im comfortable with writing

do i really want to say 'fuck it' and just do it anyway? well no not really???

how do i find characters i can project onto but not ocs because i cant do that (ocs wont help me, honestly the thought is just worse in my head aaAa)

sobs.

why does this make sense-ish

honestly i feel a little like we're overthinking it, like uhh

game theory trying to find lore in like Unus Annus and Markiplier saying something about people trying to find and see something that isnt there or something like that, cant remember the exact words D:

but i see

also holy fuck the lores just getting more complex trying to actually make sense of one thing LMAO???

confused af about Fundy's existence (from Wilbur n Sally.. ??)

okay so. one line has actually gotten the thoughts working

so actually i dont know if thats part canon but for an odd reason ive seen that in multiple fics and stuff that happens a lot thats similar as fuck is usually canon?

so.. i just (this is so cursed, im sorry if this wasnt actually canon sobs)

having gone through body science stuff in school a bit ago i now realize that this makes zero sense, because if he were to reproduce asexually, then logically, whoever is reproduced out of that would be an exact copy of wilbur since thered only be one set of genes

BUT he fucked a salmon (or did a salmon fuck him? im so confused sobs) BUT REPRODUCES ASEXUALLY?? which doesnt make sense because reproducing asexually means only one parent but if you were to reproduce sexually thered be like reproductive organs for that purpose... i dont know man there are cursed stuff where wilbur got pregnant with fundy?? I DONT KNOW WHY IT HAS TO BE PHRASEd SO WEIRDLY-- i dont know man but i hear the toe on the most

i cant believe this is the part of the dream smp lore that is stumping me the most

..besides philza canonically fucking a smart fridge … ??????

ALSO ALSO can we talk about how wilbur either fucked or was fucked by a salmon, their child had been reproduced asexually (again, dont know if thats canon but it might as well be sobs.)

AND THEN CAME OUT A FUCKIN FURRY FOX HYBRID ?? but there was a salmon and a human/siren/avian-hybrid, whatever people imagine wilbur as a hybrid of as the parents?

no but guys what

can anyone give me an explanation that genuinely makes sense

i mean a lot of people imagine sally a salmon-hybrid but i think that wilbur has stated somewhere that it is indeed a fish and not a hybrid or something? I DONT KNOW ANYMORE my memory cannot be trusted.

theres like so many scenes in so many different fics where tommy says that wilbur fucked a salmon and wilbur corrected him saying that she was a salmon-hybrid and i just

IT CONFUSES ME SO BADLY D:

i dont think theres a logical reason to this

i think its just better not to question the logistics of how the fuck that happened..?????

aAAAAAAAAaaaaa

Longing for home / DSMP x No Trauma Fic [Tommy-centric - SBI Found Family] / Thoughts

Honestly.. I've cried so many fucking times. First of all, HOLY SHIT- okay so basically this fic is Tommy getting into another dimension where its before the DSMP happened and Phil actually stayed instead of leaving and Techno is not an anarchist (..probably.?)

and wilbur is not insane

and ijust

okay spoilers but like (AND TW for Death, corpse mention)

HOLY SHIT??? okay so Tommys just grown so fucking much, ExCUSE ME??? hes matured, hes healing, and he just, watching him say goodbye to everyone made me cry so hard, because I just.. yknow I didn't want him to go but its understandable, because eventually comes a time you have to leave something, and when that happens, you cant really put it off yknow? Even if there were some good times in there with your closest friends, you have to do what you have to do to find closure, to finally be able to feel safe and content, because those memories will still remain. Even if you leave, they will still be there, forever and always.

and then it turned out other tommy was fucking dead WHICH HOLY SHIT? AND THEN WILBUR FINDING THAT DEAD BODY (holy shit it was graphic and not graphic at the same time but graphic enough to where i felt very unsettled. yknow the few things that ive found that scare the fuck out of me have been bugs and dead bodies. ive been to a funeral once haha and I couldn't handle staring at it, so Wilbur having seen other Tommy's dead body all bloody and messed up, horrifying in such a way that never shouldve happened.. jesus fuck man.)

ALSO THAT CLIFFHANGER?

pardon me but DREAM?? OKAY SO I HAVENT READ PART TWO YET BUT ILL PROBABLY MAKE A THOUGHTS ON IT no promises.. but like i dont want to forget what happened in this one cause ive been binging it for like awhile and im sleep deprived at the same time with all my tears (it keeps bringing me to tears, i just cant)

so ive just been kinda sobbing and hiccuping and kinda glad i cry quietly because bro i was bawling my eyes out lmAO

i will miss tubbo though. I understand though that other tubbo will never be his tubbo, but will still be there regardless, and i think.. it kinda helped? i mean otherwise he might just have a tubbo-sized hole in his heart u-u

i do appreciate the dsmp wilbur understanding eventually though instead of never learning and making the same mistakes- understanding that if Tommy is happy with the other version, that he'll leave.

theres just so much healing and understanding in this fic and i love it and i really think there should be more because a lot of people just dont make it realistic, and I know that thats a hard thing to do, to show healing in a slow yet realistic pace, in a way that you can see it, that it doesnt seem out of character and that you can see that growth as time goes on, but i think this fic did it pretty well.

Nightlight Cafe Menu

this is an old thing i thought i should share because for some reason i cant agree on a topic to make a slides/presentation of so take these slides

Google Docs

✧Nightlight Cafe Menu✧

Nightlight Cafe MENU! ♡ Welcome to Nightlight Cafe ♡

this was for like a discord server cause i had a huge urge to make a cafe lmAO?? the menu though is from I think my friend, Chad, because they had a channel in this other server with this like maid cafe but then they kinda closed it so and gave me permission to use it so yeah lol

theres a lot and I might've missed something so it's better to probably go check out the actual slide if the link works right, which it should??? so here, take this lol

It's Not Arson, It's Team-building / DSMP Camp AU [TNT Duo-centric] / Thoughts

first of all, yes this is a ship fic, its TNT Duo ofc

second, CAMP AUU AAHAHID-

so Quackity and Wilbur are camp counselors and are assigned to camps next to each other

They kinda have like this rivalry thing...?????? its enemies to lovers man, it was a long 30 chapters waiting for them to just finally make a fucking move istg lMao?????

its really funny, though there are a lot of lows and dark stuff because of reasons you'll find out when reading but other then that its a lot of acceptance, closure, and COMEDYY HAHAHa (okay so like almost the whole of l'manburg are campers, like Tommy, Tubbo, Ranboo, Jack, and then theres Slime and I can't remember anyone else??)

The fic JUST finished anyway so it is still pretty fresh. I've never read a camp AU anyways so I couldn't mistake the events. It's just cute as fuck towards the end aGHHh

I .. did cry at one point ? for Wilbur but like mm mental health go brrr. thats another for the dark time lOl- but i cry for a lot of things so its not like sad as fuck

GO GIVE IT A READ [if youre into quackbur i mean ?? i dont wanna force you but i really like it and i dont usually read romance stuff books]