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I still mourn klonnie, their undeniable potential and their unborn daughter aka Hope

I find it weird when people don't admit the Mikaelson are lowkey racists and that they keep dismissing and treating people who don't share their blood like shit.

Like, Klaus mocked his adoptive son whip wounds and they all lived in the plantation where Marcel lived as a slave, not to talk about the way Elijah was always talking him down and how Freya and Kol acted with his existence: she didn't give a damn about him, suggesting they should kill him and Kol probably was just jealous, if I'm being honest, but my point still remains. And after Elijah killed Marcel, Hayley had the nerve to act as if he wasn't as important as Hope (of course, the biological white daughter she shares with Klaus) and then they proceded to fuck after hearing him confess his blame.

Like, what the hell? I don't think the Mikaelson are the kind of people who actually insult you based in your skin color, but they never failed to act as white saviors and to play the victim whenever someone tried to kill them, as if they hadn't made absolutely everyone completely miserable.

Klaus and Bonnie would (and still make) more sense than klaroline, klamille and klayley. Stay mad about it

new to this ship but can you point out moments in canon that shows the potential? i like it but i don’t know where Klaus and Bonnie ever interacted. it seems random to ship

It is not random to ship. It just wasn’t as serviced as Klaus other ships same for Bonnie and her ships. They may not have interacted often but context counts.

Klaus was introduced with an obsession with witches. Joseph and Kat did make remarks about Klonnie and things they’d do to get people to notice it. Joseph referenced Klaus love for witches here and here. In canon Greta Martin left her family to work with Klaus. This doesnot mean that is the kind of relationship Klaus and Bonnie could’ve had. Just showing that Greta was okay where she was. Maddox was another loyal witch. Then we have Gloria from season 3 who Klaus respected and went to for help. She was over 100 years old and even Klaus referenced as powerful.

Shared bloodline connection. Ayana mentored Esther. Ayana was around during the Mikaelson’s human life. It is Ayana who the Mikaelsons took Henrik too after he was killed. Esther until TO’s Esther praised the Bennett’s often in season 3. It is Abby who put Mikael down, that is only half the reason for abandoning Bonnie. Esther also praised Bonnie for being the witch that fought Klaus. Keep in mind it is Elijah who recruited Bonnie to help take down Klaus even if he betrayed her.

Unlike the other women or characters Bonnie has never been afraid of Klaus. She’s fought him once, and then again both times fearlessly. Klaus believed Bonnie was dead, this little-witch who was just starting outsmarted the big and bad hybrid. Then there’s here where she again isn’t afraid of him no matter how much he tries. Bonnie isn’t someone Klaus can control unlike the other characters. The only way he really controls Bonnie is through her friends and it still doesn’t deteriorate Bonnie as a person or last long. She never falters. You see how she steps over him. She’s a fearless witch-goddess as Elena said. That conviction in how he says witch. Klaus will need Bonnie long before Bonnie ever needs him. Even when he threatens her she never once backs down. Bonnie having moments with her enemies shows so many of her emotions. Another lovely moment is here. Then here where Bonnie dreamed of Klaus in the coffin. Here’s another moment of Bonnie standing off with Tyler!Klaus. In TO Klaus and a Bonnie spoke over the phone.

Klaus and Bonnie were not allowed many moments outside of being enemies. Klaus didn’t invite Bonnie to a ball or gift her fancy gowns,money for graduation or school but they aren’t a random ship. The lore is there, the scenes and potential certainly exist. It just takes the right fans to see that. Bonnie could be valued by someone like Klaus and vice-versa. I have seen arguments that shipping Klonnie is weird, when has it ever been weird to like two characters from the same franchise. If Klaus can have sexual relationships with other witches than Bonnie is to no different. She’s best-friends with Damon and dated a vampire herself.

Hope this helped.

-Rikki

I despise both Renesmee Cullen's and Hope Mikaelson's existences. Both characters are plot holes and shouldn't exist.

Renesmee Carlie Cullen is the daughter of Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. She's half-human and half-vampire, and in Twilight, it was explained that only male vampires can have children with female humans. But that doesn't make any sense because vampires in Twilight don't have any blood in their bodies. Then, Stephanie Meyer explained that the venom that is in their bodies works similarly to the bodily fluids that are in humans. But if that was the case, then Bella shouldn't have gotten pregnant. She should have become a vampire after having sex with Edward. Renesmee is called 'half mortal and half immortal' by Aro, but how can a person be half mortal and half immortal? She's either mortal or immortal. She can't be both. Does she age, or does she not? Can she live forever, or does she have the lifespan of a human?

Now, onto Hope.

Hope Andrea Mikaelson is the daughter of Klaus Mikaelson and Hayley Marshall-Kenner. She's a werewolf, vampire, witch tribrid. In the pilot episode of The Originals, it was explained that since Klaus was born a werewolf and became a vampire because of magic and not by drinking the blood of another vampire and dying with that vampire's blood in his system, he was able to conceive. Vampires in The Vampire Diaries are infertile and can not have children, and while Klaus is the world's first werewolf-vampire hybrid, he's still part vampire. He shouldn't have been able to have a child, which was confirmed in Legacies. The only reason Hope exists is because Malivore. So, if Malivore never existed, Hope would have never existed. She wasn't born because her father was created differently from traditional vampires, but because it is her destiny to defeat a mud monster.

Both characters are great (more so Hope because she was given her own show, and I grew to like her over Legacies' 4 season run. Renesmee was kinda there. Her CGI in the movies creeped me out, and she absolutely did nothing in the book), but their existence goes against the canons of their respective movies/books and show.

It's funny because both are created as plot devices to Bella and Klaus and they're meant to be the magical powerful baby of their universe, but their existence alone just makes it look ridiculous by breaking every single canon law.

As you said, Renaissance came out of nowhere. She was soo incredibly intelligent from the very first moment her parents made her, but apparently not smart enough to control her own strength seeing she broke several Bella's bones (like honestly, what the hell) and this demon spawn craved human blood for absolutely no logical reason other than Edward being a vampire. Ratatouille also could not be seen in the ultrasound or any other thing: she had a impenetrable amniotic sac because yes, exactly, her daddy is a vampire!

Honestly, I kinda feel bad for Ravioli. I've never finished reading Breaking Dawn (and I won't), it was such a corny book and I could only bring myself to the third part, where Bella spends time with baby Rasputin but I've heard interesting things to how the Cullen rise this sim. Apparently, Bella and Edward couldn't care less about their daughter, because as always they were more obssesed with each other and Rosalie did all the parenting, because the love birds couldn't be distracted with their CGI spawn. If I'm correct, Edward even called Bella more beautiful than Rim Job right in her face and instead of being mad, because their kid was right there, Isabella was just like "gosh edward, ily sm 😘😜😍"

Parents of the year.

Stephenie Meyer didn't care about Bella and Edward being parents: she just wanted the aesthetic that came with it, and she pulled the reasons of the human-vampire pregnancy out of her ass.

Actually, when I was in my twilight phase, I read a fanfic where Bella got pregnant, and the reason was a little more "coherent" than what Meyer gave: Having died so young, Edward's body "froze" his sperm and because he had remained a virgin for over a hundred years (lmao), he was able to get Bella, the first and only woman he slept with, pregnant. It's still shitty, and bad, but if they wanted them so badly to have a kid this was a better reason.

I just can't take Twilight books seriously. Apparently, there are no black vampires for a barely explained reason that is clearly racist (if I remember, the venom that vampires inject you during death just... removes your skin color), the mistreatment to the werewolves is just terrible, and there's Ratatunga too.

Now, moving to Hope Andrea Mikaelson, the white witch that is hated and loved in equal measures by the fandom. Oh my, this is gonna be interesting.

I have my moments with Hope, to be honest. Sometimes I completely adore her, and sometimes I just can't stand her. Her existence was completely pulled out of Pl*c's ass, who wanted to have her own version of Renameme so badly. Klaus shouldn't have even been able to procreate in the first place, because he was killed before Esther binded his werewolf side. Though vampires in tvd are more alive than dead, but that's a whole different thing. But clearly my point still remains.

I like Hope Mikaelson a lot more than Ragnarok Cullen, Summer Fontana/Danielle Russell and Mackenzie Foy are all really amazing and beautiful actresses who did great with the role they were given, but their characters completely broke canon. I like the tribrid more though because at least, she wasn't a fucking sim that aged five years in a week unlike Nestlé. The only way I could ever like Radioactive is by having her completely loathe her parents and family, especially because she was born in 2006 aka she's part of Gen Z.

Both characters shouldn't even exist in the first place, and Hope's existences is as much of a plothole as Riptide's. Renesmee gets more hate simply because of how she was in the womb and also because of how fast she grew, but they're both plotholes and shouldn't have been created no matter their popularity.

How do you think Klaus, Elijah, and Hayley would’ve reacted if they’ve been alive when Hope jumped into malivore, causing them to lose all memory of her, only to later regain their memories back a couple months later?

We've all seen how Freya (aka the only one of her siblings who gave a damn about Hope) reacted to losing Hope. If I'm not wrong, because I only made it to the second season of Legacies that luckily it's the main plot of what you're talking about, there were still photos of Hope around her house and Freya didn't know who that girl was but she was still clearly distraught.

That would only be worse with Klaus and Hayley.

They were clearly depressed in s2 of The Originals after being forced to send Hope away, and this could be the only time Hayley could have considered turning off her humanity: she said time and time again that the only thing she could think about was how much she missed her daughter and Klaus agreed in her feelings, saying he felt the same.

If her parents were still alive by the time Hope jumped, the two of them would be heartbroken. They loved her the most and losing her just once nearly destroyed their bond, but Hope was just a baby back then, a newborn. There wasn't much to miss about her: they didn't know Hope yet, just that they loved her.

By the time of Legacies, Hope is already a teenager with thoughts and a personality of her own. At this stage of her life, Klaus and Hayley know who she is, not just what she means to them, unlike when they lost her for the first time. So when they forgot about her after jumping into the pit, they would lose more than just their daughter.

There would be photos of Hope all around their house, photos of her with the two of them and with each one of her parents individually, and photos of her alone and with other family members, and her bedroom would still remain in the compound: a room full of paints with soft colored walls that clearly belonged to a girl. That, along with the photos, would certainly make them suspicious.

Those photos would have Hope in all her stages: a baby, toddler, child, teen, etc. They would clearly guess she's related to them in a way and they would all assume Hope is Klaus and Hayley's daughter, but no one would voice it except probably Elijah, because Klaus would be in his denial era again and I don't know exactly how Hayley would react, but if one thing is for sure is that both parents would be depressed because they would feel something is missing and yet they wouldn't know what.

In short words, they would act like the first time Hope went missing: Klaus and Hayley would probably not speak to each other and they would be off killing people 24/7, to Elijah's disappointment. After Klaus snapped out of his denial era, Hayley and him would talk about this mistery girl and acknowledge that they have a daughter together.

I think Hope was in Malivore for three months, so the moment she comes out she would probably go to her parents because well, with them alive she wouldn't hold on to Landon as much as she did in canon. I don't think Klaus would hurt her, perhaps keep his distance because he's still paranoid af and he wouldn't trust this girl until he got his memories of her back despite wanting to keep her close. Hayley wouldn't give a fuck tho, she would be glued to Hope the moment she saw her.

When everyone got their memories of Hope back, Klaus and Hayley would be crying for like a year lmao. They wouldn't want her back in the Salvatore School and they would only agree to let her assist after a fight and them moving to Mystic Falls to keep an eye on her. They would be more clingy and a lot more overprotective of her, because that's their baby and she disappeared out of nowhere and they won't go through that again.

I totally forgot about Elijah but he would be more or less like them, to be honest. He would have a good relationship with Hope and would clearly move to Mystic Falls with his brother and Hayley to make sure his niece is more secure and etc.