The Conflict On This Server, Tubbo, Started With Me And You And Its Gonna End With Me And You- Tommy

“The conflict on this server, Tubbo, started with me and you and it’s gonna end with me and you”- Tommy

IF THEY DIE TOGETHER IN THE END I WILL JUST NEVER RECOVER

LMANBERG IS GONE CRABRAVE

Jesus... that interaction between Phil and Ghost...

Honestly, I really think L'manberg is fucked. 

I know story wise it could go anyway but, think about it for a second. Niki has expressed how she feels about it, Hbomb is questioning the situation and why they are listening to Tommy (also planning to leave), then there’s Dream who has alluded to having a secret weapon (it could be the book or it could be something else entirely) and I won’t even bring up [c]Ranboo since we kinda guessed (from a story perspective) he passed out and heard enderman sounds.

Any opinions/ideas?

I think one of the reasons I love dream smp so much is because of their concept of who is in the right and who is in the wrong. It's much more complex than one might think. Because everything considered, everyone is right!

Aka me talking about morality in dream smp for longer than I should, enjoy:

The storytelling in the dream smp is very different from traditional storytelling. The author writes the story and guides it's reader through the narrative and giving them the information for the reader to reach their own conclusion. Of course anyone can obtain their own unique takeaway from a story, but dream smp isn't like that. You aren't seeing one story from hand-picked perspective, but from several points of view through the eyes of each character.

This causes for people to have very different opinions about who's in the right and who's in the wrong. You are presented with so many characters with different arcs and ways of thinking, and who you watch affects your opinion of the story. For example, quite obvious but I mostly watch Tubbo's streams, when Tubbo exiled Tommy to me it seemed like the best course of action, obviously Tubbo is doing his job by protecting the nation, which was given by his friends and he swore to protect. What I saw was a conflict with an, albeit heartbreaking, easy solution, but it was the best way to preserve peace, the thing Tubbo wants for his country. But on the other hand, viewers of Tommy and those who sympathized with him saw this as Tubbo betraying him instead of Tubbo keeping his word to Tommy. Which isn't wrong! His best friend shouted at him and kicked him from the country he sacrificed so much for. Tommy absolutely SHOULD feel betrayed, his friend doomed him to a horrible fate which almost ended horribly, all to prevent conflict which was bound to happen anyway. So... They are both right.

A more recent example is Tommy's "betrayal" of Techno. I think Tommy was in the right to leave Techno's side, he's siding with someone who deeply hurt him and is plotting for the mass destruction of land and people he loved, Techno's path is very similar to Wilbur's..... and he doesn't want to be like Wilbur. But Techno is very much justified in feeling hurt by this. Tommy once again used him as a weapon to archieve his own goals, and when it was time for him to return the favor he backed out. From Techno's perspective, he's trying to save L'manberg's people, free them from the oppressive clutches of government, but he's instead looked at as a villain.

While I don't agree with Techno's way of doing things, he objectively right, he isn't a villain and truthfully .... No one is a hero or a villain in the story of the dream smp, Tubbo isn't bad for putting a nation over Tommy, tommy isn't bad for turning his back on Techno, Techno isn't bad for following his goals while being very transparent about them. All of them and everyone else in the smp has their own sense of morality and own ideals, in the end they all want freedom and happiness, they just have their own way of archieving that goal. No one is objectively wrong in this. No white and black, but shades of grey.

Everyone except Dream tho lol fuck that guy

Nihachu: “Tommy will learn his lesson”

Nihachu (a few mins later): “lets teach them their last lesson”

Niki kinda has a point. Sure Tommy and Tubbo kinda made up but, he hasn’t been forgiven by everyone else. No one truly learns their lesson and I guess Niki is just done