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All Of What You Said Makes Adam The Villain. But You Can Be A Villain Without Being An Abuser.

All of what you said makes Adam the villain. But you can be a villain without being an abuser.

Abusive behaviour and being a villain is not mutally inclusive. A villain isn't always an abuser, and in RWBY Adam is not an abuser. He is a villain, but not abusive.

RWBY fans can project onto Adam, but they can't force others to join Abuse Bingo night every Thursday.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.

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2 years ago

S'Alright.

Hmm. Sad, Really. She Even Stabbed Him In The Heart, Metaphorically And Then Literally. Damn.
Hmm. Sad, Really. She Even Stabbed Him In The Heart, Metaphorically And Then Literally. Damn.
Hmm. Sad, Really. She Even Stabbed Him In The Heart, Metaphorically And Then Literally. Damn.

Hmm. Sad, really. She even stabbed him in the heart, metaphorically and then literally. Damn.

2 years ago

But Cinder's stepmom and Adam's actions ARE different.

Adam did not make Blake do chores, Adam didn't have a shock collar on Blake's neck, Blake isn't even financially dependent on Adam. How are the Madame, and Adam, the same?

The Madame treated Cinder like a slave and servant, Adam treated Blake as a comrade, and then as an enemy. How are Adam and the Madame the same?

Madame's actions are representative of an abusive relationship in RWBY, my point is that Adam's relationship DOES NOT show the same charateristics. To some extent, Jacques's relationship with Weiss doesn't reflect Madame's relationship with Cinder, either.

Ultimately THIS point isn't countered, the point being Adam's relationship with Blake is different from Madame's relationship with Cinder.

Sure, Adam wants Blake alive and brought before him, but enemies in narratives do that.

Destroy everything you love? Enemies do that too.

Also, Yang attacked Adam first mind you, and why didn't Adam just kill Yang on the spot? Yang and Blake were defenseless right then and there.

You addressed my examples, but the examples illustrate this point which you haven't yet addressed: Adam is not the same as the Madame, since the Madame is the example of an abuser in RWBY. Heck Adam's relationship with Blake isn't even like Jacques's with Weiss.

Sure, I may not be able to budge you. But who cares what you think? My judges are those who support my post and reblogs it with support and positivity.

I mean, if your friend who argues better can't budge you? I think it reflects more on your stubborness than any issue with my substantial argument.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.


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2 years ago

Oof.

Oof!

OOOFFF!

for modern day gatsby, the little 'active' green dot next to daisy's pfp would be his green dock light, in this essay i-


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2 years ago

If you read the RWBY comic you'd see that Blake joined White Fang of her own free will, and because she was attracted to Adam.

Adam always had Blake's back whenever they fought together. Both in the comics and the black trailer.

Of course Adam is going to kill Blake, that is what enemies do. Blake opposes Adam, Adam is going to do whatever it takes to fight for the Faunus, someone was going to die. It is that kind of conflict.

Incidentally, Cinder Fall's stepmom didn't try to kill Cinder even though she is abusive.

The points about Adam's actions and motivations are addressed in the OP. Adam screwed up because of his feelings for Blake. It is what makes Adam the tragic character. He had the plan and the charisma, but his feelings for Blake got in the way.

However, none of these actions and motivations are that of an abuser. Adam and Blake are merely enemies, and Adam's actions reflect the actions an enemy, or villain, would take. Adam's motivations don't honestly matter because his fight for Faunus rights are separate from his feelings for Blake. That's why he sent his goon squad after the Belladonnas while he went to Haven.

The cause and effect don't work because Adam's feelings for Blake does not affect his actions when leading the White Fang. Blake is just a bonus for Adam.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.


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2 years ago

Reblogging because of the chinese at the end

Obi Wan is Asian coded because he takes inspiration from Indian and Chinese Buddhists and is based off Jewish people as well, he is very friendly to Muslims as well, that being said as a Black British Jewish Genderfluid person living in London, how dare you of accusing me being a “straight white male” in the last post I made calling obi wan “Asian coded and a ally of lgbtq people” which he is btw, his character is based off Poc people, and you’re taking the piss if you think otherwise.

OK nonny, I'm making an exception for you from my Delete and Block rule this second time.

Of course Obi Wan is a friend to all living things. All Mary Sues are! Its a common trope.

Don't even try pulling the "offensive" card on me, dude. It is you people weaponized the Mary Sue and made it onto an sexist slur to begin with. You have zero right to call it offensive when its applied to your fave. I'm using it in the correct sense to mean a character who has no flaws and is perfect.

George Lucas once said in an interview that he did not want any real world religions in Star Wars. I can understand why George Lucas didn't want real world religions to exist in any recognizable form in his work, he said it was because he didn't want to be seen as biased towards any one religion I think.

That is not to say that he didn't base stuff off real world religions, he did. Inspiration though is different from directly inserting stuff into a story. That's the beauty of fiction. Authors can use lots of different things for inspiration, but the end result can be a mixture of different inspirations and something totally new and unique.

Ergo, Woobie-Wan may be based on a couple of different religions, but those religions do not exist, in the form we know them exactly in the Star Wars universe. To say that he is "friendly to Muslims" is a ludicrous statement, because there are no Muslims and Jews in Star Wars. Nor are there any Hindus, Christians, Mormons or anything else.

This isn't me saying this, its Lucas. And don't give me that "Tuskens are Muslims" crap. That is as racist as fuck because it is tantamount to saying the Middle East is 100% Islamic and always has been. When you say that, you are erasing non-Muslim indigenous minorities such as the Yazidis, Copts, Zoroastrians and others in the Middle East and Africa. You are doing the terrorist's job for them.

Never mind that Woobie's only dealings with Tuskens, in canon, is to scare one away with a Krayt dragon noise. Don't even mention that dreadful comic to me, which makes him a hideous Mary Sue and vilifies Owen Lars.

This is an Owen Lars friendy zone, and no vilification of him will be tolerated here.

Obi Wan Is Asian Coded Because He Takes Inspiration From Indian And Chinese Buddhists And Is Based Off

Similarly, saying Woobie-Wan is an "ally" to a group who are not represented or do not directly exist in Universe is ludicrous. They were literally banned from including ANY LGBT characters in Star Wars until 2003. and even then they hardly jumped at the change for representation. Woobie-Wan is not an ally, because there were no gay people for him to ally with, in canon. Karen Traviss was the first author to include an openly gay character in any Star Wars material, and she's the most hated SW author today. Says a lot.

Therefore, any "coding" that exists is that which you have read into to the story. You might not be a straight white male, but Obi Wan very much IS. He's been played by two straight white male actors respectively. He as an aristorcratic white girlfriend with Posh British accent.

As far as coding and inspiration goes, you have another problem. It can apply just a much to other characters, and is not exclusive to Woobie-Wan. Anakin's story is based very heavily on Jewish and Christian tradition. Lucas even admitted it. Virgin birth, a slave in a desert, "The Chosen One" narrative. Although there are some pagan religions who have virgin birth stories as well. Shmi Skywalker either has a Hebrew name, or as is more commonly thought, the name of a Hindu goddess Lakshmi. "Ben is a Hebrew name" is the basis of your entire Jewish coded theory for Woobie-Wan isn't it? (Never mind that millions of people who have the name Ben aren't Jewish. I have a Hebrew name, but sadly I'm not Jewish.)

Well, Anakin's mother has a Hebrew/Hindu name, so what does that make him? Oh, what's more his childhood best friend Kitster was played by a boy of South Asian heritage, Dhruv Chanchani.

Obi Wan Is Asian Coded Because He Takes Inspiration From Indian And Chinese Buddhists And Is Based Off

The marriage of Padme and Anakin draws inspiration from Hindu Mythology @padme-amitabha can tell you more about that, as well as ancient Eygptian Mythology. In real life, Natalie Portman is Jewish, in Universe she has a Japanese name. That's enough to conclude she's "Asian coded" in this fandom.

Ah yes, this is the point where you start crying foul "Anakin isn't Asian coded! He's an evil white dude!"

Ohhhh, I see. So the character is only "Asian and gay coded"when you like them, right? Characters you hate are all white and straight.

Obi Wan Is Asian Coded Because He Takes Inspiration From Indian And Chinese Buddhists And Is Based Off

This coding thing is subjective, then. A matter of personal interpretation. Always has been. Well then you have no basis for going around, screaming at other people and demanding they accept your subjective viewpoint.

Sounds a lot like you are just using this crap to justify worshipping a character who your brain and reason tells you is straight and white. Listen to your reason. Its all subjective anyway, so I really an not required to accept any of it. If it makes you happy, fine, but subjective things do not require anyone else to accept them.

I can show you Lucas quotes showing Anakin isn';t the most evil being in the universe, and is the victim, but you won't find any saying Woobie Wan is Asian, LGBT coded, nor a tragic hero. Just let it go.

Obi Wan Is Asian Coded Because He Takes Inspiration From Indian And Chinese Buddhists And Is Based Off

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