Every Time I Think About Dan And Phil Becoming The Internets Go-to Example Of The Dangers Of Shipping

every time i think about dan and phil becoming the internet’s go-to example of the Dangers of Shipping Real People it makes me so exhausted. for their entire fourteen year career together they have encouraged people to write fic about them and draw fanart and generally “be creative” as they always phrase it. dan specifically, outside of 2012/2013 when he was aggressive towards fans pestering him about it, at one point said he likes reading fic and that he’s often surprised about how good they can be. hell, they wrote fanfic of themselves in their own published book and hired a popular fanartist to illustrate a manga of them.

and then dan came out. and in his video he mentioned how stressful it was to suddenly blow up and have a bunch of people speculating about his relationship, and how it triggered him due to his trauma from being heavily bullied in school. and then followed up the segment talking about how past that point the fans’ support was actually very healing for him, and hearing people tell him that he had helped them be comfortable with who they were without him even being out was one of the things that made him confident in coming out in the first place.

but the people who write angry posts about the evils of rpf or whatever don’t care about dan and phil’s actual opinions. they saw or heard about how annoying the fans were, heard along a thousand-step telephone game that dan and phil hate their fans, and have now christened them the platonic ideal of creators whose lives were ruined because of shippers. it’s ridiculous. it’s unfounded. and it’s disrespectful to the actual existence of the people they’re propping up to support their argument

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Astrological Compatibility for Dan Howell and Phil Lester

A Comparison of temperaments and life styles that affect their ability to harmonize with each other

Dan’s Sun in Gemini and Phil’s Sun in Aquarius

They have an excellent intellectual rapport. Each encourages the wit of the other and they love sharing ideas. The intellectual company is important for both and in the relationship they find a partner whose company they appreciate and enjoy conversations.

The emotional and physical connection between them can be very strong. Shared viewpoints, common interests, and social activities are key elements in their relationship.

Dan’s Moon in Gemini and Phil’s Moon in Aquarius

It’s not enough for either to like or love someone, they need an agreement or rapport on the mental level as well. Intellectual stimulation and companionship, someone to share ideas, discoveries, and conversation with, are very important to both.

Emotionally they are both light, airy, objective, and rather detached.The emotional tone between them is more like brothers, comrades, or friends rather than one of /deep/ romantic attachment.

Major themes in the relationship: what brought them together

Sun Mutually Aspects Mercury

Clear communication is a plus that they have in their relationship. Both feel that his partner understands what they say and have a high degree of compatibility on an intellectual or mental level. They rely on discussion, negotiating, and reason to iron out their differences.

Phil’s Saturn opposition Dan’s Sun orb 1° 29’

In the early stages of their relationship Dan is likely to feel attracted to the mature, steady, disciplined, and responsible qualities of Phil. But over time these same qualities can begin to feel restrictive, limiting, even oppressive, due to Phil can fall into the role of being the parent, teacher, or taskmaster of Dan, causing Dan to feel inhibited and confined by Phil’s seriousness and inflexibility. If Dan can benefit from the responsible and concerned attitude of Phil and Phil can refrain from taking problems or concerns too seriously, then the positive sense of maturity, responsibility, and stability of the relationship can overcome the negative tendencies.

Phil’s Sun opposition Dan’s Mars orb 0° 29’

The physical and sexual attraction between them is very strong. They are attracted to one another’s strength and integrity.

In addition, they can enjoy competing with each other in games. However, they have a tendency to become rivals or adversaries, trying to out-perform each other.

Phil’s Sun opposition Dan’s Jupiter orb 0° 55’

There is a great deal of enthusiasm and optimism in their relationship. Inspiring each other to expand their horizons, explore new possibilities, and improve their financial and social situation. They have great good will towards the other, and they also allow themselves to act with great freedom, without smother each other.

Either way, they can get hooked together on risky speculations that are driven more by optimism and hopefulness than by well thought out plans; consequently, expectations are soon lost. Overall, this astrological influence is a positive one of good will and optimism.

Phil’s Ascendant opposition Dan’s Sun orb 2° 10’

Dan embodies many of the characteristics that Phil is seeking in a mate or partner, and Phil finds Dan irresistibly appealing for this reason. Dan is also the polar opposite of Phil in many ways, that’s why they complement or balance very well.

However, the very qualities that originally were so attractive may become sources of friction between them. Phil does not expect Dan to be like he really is! One of the gifts Dan has for Phil is to show him ‘the other side of the coin’. For instance, if one is very logical and rational (phil), him partner may have a highly intuitive or poetic mind (dan). Possibly, try to appreciate their differences to cope with coexistence.

Phil’s Moon in Aquarius trine Dan’s Sun in Gemini orb 1° 9’

They have a great affinity with each other and an instinctive rapport that enables them to know each other very well, almost from the beginning. There is a basic compatibility that helps them to overcome the stressful or problematic facts of your relationship. They have a natural sense of belonging with one another, and the relationship develops and flourishes in some way.

Phil’s Mercury trine Dan’s Sun orb 1° 56’ and Phil’s Sun trine Dan’s Mercury orb 2° 45’

The mental rapport that both share is a big reason why they enjoy each other’s company and are good friends. Communication is open and harmonious. Together they work very well on practical affairs, daily chores, problem-solving, and business activities.

Dan’s Venus in Leo with Phil’s Venus in Sagittarius

Some wild and vividly memorable times are predestined when these two very passionate lovers meet. First dates are exciting for both, and since each has strong appetites, things can get physical quickly. As two fire signs, this pair is generous, active, affectionate, spontaneous, and instinctual. It’s these very traits that will make them fall in love.

Where they diverge is in their rhythms, as Leo is fixed and Sagittarius is mutable. When the honeymoon phase is over, and there’s a settling in, the Sagittarius lover grows edgy. It’s his Venusian nature to wander, and this restlessness can make even confident Leos feel like they’re not enough. And every Venus Leo wants to be more than enough. But if the timing is right and Venus Leo meets Venus Sagittarius when one or other is ready to explore a deeper intimacy, this could be a excellent match.

In summary: The emotional bond between them is very complex. Sexual attraction is very strong; they find the other person very magnetic and highly charismatic.

They inspire, vitalize and energize each other and can achieve much together.

They enjoy doing activities together, and they are likely to like competing with each other and doing things together in an intense and somewhat competitive way.

 They form a “dynamic duo” but are also prone to get angry and feel irritation with each other.

Note: If you want to read their natal charts you can read dan’s here and phil’s here

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saw someone say they think the “we are real life best friends. companions through life. like actual soulmates,” quote was sarcasm….

pls say this is a joke i refuse to believe or even think that