Ms-scarletwings - Of Carmine Carnations

Additional things I haven’t yet stopped thinking about in regards to this idea:

• @patchworkpoltergeist brought up the subject of possession vulnerability which, fuck yeah, that’s a rad trail someone can walk down if they’d like to. Sounds kinda reverse-Zib if you ask me but I kinda like it. Also, knee-slappingly appropriate username there.

@zombified-queer : I don’t think Irkens have any sort of of spirituality beyond the machine

• The fact that I can’t agree more. The “Day of Da Spookies” transcript very straight forwardly confirms that Zim sees the majority of Dib’s paranormal other beliefs as complete hogwash the same as the classmates. Sure, he’s fought a ham demon and seen Mortos before, but he doesn’t buy hauntings. Him and Skoodge both set out on a whole mission to try and destroy Dib’s belief in ghosts and demonstrate pretty well that they’ve only done a very small amount of what might be called research on the subject. I heavily doubt Irkens widely have any conception of afterlife that is not an ascension/reincarnation path through technology rather than an innate spiritual essence. Something like the Martians’ hologram manuals are about as close to talking to disembodied spirits as he’s ever gotten. Which…. Brings up some interesting springboard to ponder if/how humans can become ghosts but not the off-worlders, or more specifically, the question about the existence of Irken souls.

• All of us knowing that at least for the first several minutes to days, Zim’s initial response to new obstacles/threats has often been obstinate aggression or basically a paranoid breakdown, and how fun either option would be to play around with until he comes to terms with the fact that this is not a problem you can just violence away, fend off, OR hide from.

• The horribly dark comedic value of picturing that damn apparition in some corner of the base giving the stink eye of the century intentionally from Zim’s periphery. End of his rope and frustrated Zim asks him if he doesn’t have something better to be doing and, no, actually, no. He genuinely, literally, furiously doesn’t.

You know even if Zim ever gets a lucky shot and actually kills Dib legit dead, I don’t think it’s gonna feel like much of a victory for him if it turns out the kid was right all along about the existence of ghosts

I’m not sure if Invaders have any solutions on hand for vengeful obsessive hauntings

Me explaining to friends why gourmand is the best added campaign in Downpour

Sooooo finally caved and shelled out for the Downpour expansion!

Key notes so far:

- loving all the new items and foods

- outskirts definitely does not feel like a beginner area anymore

- tackling this lore now like a fruit frozen into a block of ice and placed into my enclosure for enrichment

- thank the ancients for custom tweaks like key item tracking

- still gay for robots

- garbage wastes has been demoted from being my favorite level

- round boi is best boi round boi is best boi round boi is best boi round boi

- AAAA

Seriously though if ghosts DO exist in the IZ universe this almost certainly would happen following any logic that they work like any handful of stereotypical ghost tropes

We can likely check off for a gruesome demise, and the whole unfulfilled major goals thing. Already down for general turmoiled time on this side of the veil and some very strong personal connections related to the whole unfinished business thing. Even barring this I just feel like that kid has been meddling way too much into worlds men were not meant to explore and entities that wish not to be harassed to also not be cursed in some way by this point. A smorgasbord of setup is there.

I think there’s a wild amount of potential we can work with given the premise of facing an enemy that will always be the most destructive, annoying, and/or dangerous thorn in your side they possibly can be, and the ONLY way to proceed from there is either acceptance to an unwinnable and bothersome struggle until the end of your days, or to go out of your way to vindicate the reputation of your greatest opponent.

You know even if Zim ever gets a lucky shot and actually kills Dib legit dead, I don’t think it’s gonna feel like much of a victory for him if it turns out the kid was right all along about the existence of ghosts

I’m not sure if Invaders have any solutions on hand for vengeful obsessive hauntings

Okay here’s the thing. I love and adore Doof as much as the next high class cartoon fan, but if you are voting for him, you genuinely do not know what a “villain protagonist” is. The main protags of phineas and Ferb are Phineas and Ferb, and even within the classic doof-centered B plot, Perry the Platypus is the one in the protagonist role.

Like all other campaign arguments are thrown aside. One of these guys is an actual villain protagonist, and the other one is a villain antagonist. It’s not your fault, Doof, you are amazing and iconic, but this is not your banner to fly and I will not deprive you of your proper taxonomy.

Propaganda

Heinz Doofenshmirtz: He has a tragic backstory. It’s so tragic that not even his parents showed up for his birth. He also has a found family of ocelots! And a nemesis with whom he has a mildly homoerotic rivalry. He predictably gets his plans utterly decimated each time, but he never gives up! Give the guy props for tenacity. He’s also legitimately good at building crazy machines, his downfall is his habit of building self-destruct buttons. He’s ridiculous. He tries so hard. He’s such a babygirl.

Invader Zim: An autistic icon who paved the way for so many shows people praise today - Steven Universe, She-Ra Princesses of Power, Hazbin/Helluva, Owl House and so many more. Also, a non binary icon, as this beautiful small bean rocks a pink dress and on multiple occasions is the draggest of queen's. Vote Zim for the road he died paving for all the recent LGBT faves to run on.