I Mean... Billy Porter Used To Make Het Songs Too

I mean... Billy Porter used to make het songs too

Umm just here to say that I don't think so that's namjoon's boyfriend there, like hello are we forgetting about expensive girl or all those references he has had made, or that baby girl or that a girl in the bathrobe is sitting there in Jin's room scenario? Come on namjoon is definitely straight 😂😌✨

I gotta be honest, I think my gaydar is faulty because I always thought Joon was straight but those boyfie pics like why… Mmmayyybe he’s heteroflexible. Or bi. So he might be jerking ARMY around a lil bit or I might be terrible at gaydentification. Could go either way. Maybe both ways. Maybe he’s pan af and loves all God’s children. You gotta admit that the way he stans Jimin sometimes… I dunno. And I bet he’s not planning to tell us.

He’s so pretty. I hope he’s having a good day.

HATERS AND ANTIS

Some basic definitions 👇👇👇👇

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Listen....in this world some people are triggered, absolutely triggered, by anything or anyone beyond their troglodyte-regressed comprehension skills.

When you encounter them, report and walk away. It isn't worth your time to engage them.

https://www.usbtsarmy.com/tutorials/report-malicious-posts/#email

Some people are really out here getting PAID to write sh!t posts about people they've never met....I can't say I know what it's like to be in their position, taking money to be an awful person online, so I can thank my lucky stars I'm not in such a moral predicament. I sometimes wonder if it's a job they love or a job born of necessity. 😩

Some people have had bad experiences in life and they take that out on people they don't personally know. (This isn't me doing an analysis on anyone. This is me regurgitating what people who have studied longer on this topic have said.) They've met someone who they thought the sun shined out of their a$$ and got burnt by it and now every time they see a sun they think it's completely dark on the other side.

I fail to see (and you might too because this next paragraph is convoluted 🙏) how in one breath they question just how genuine this particular group member is by believing in posts from other anons (who had to probably buy the information so they think it's valid, but it's just specious) who don't even know if the information they're posting is accurate and also taking little tidbits of partial moments or conversations between members & this group member that were joking or otherwise and calling the people they support super direct & super genuine, but also not believing them the other times they've praised this person they hate on for being so wonderful. It doesn't follow logic. They ignore all the hugs, kisses, kind words, thoughtful interactions, and thank you's over all the years between all the members just to point out.....what exactly...??? That they don't believe that all those interactions were genuine??? That they don't believe all those interactions happen off camera too or something???? After saying the people they support are the most genuine??? And they interact with this person...that they don't...think??? Is??? Genuine??? Even??? Off???? Camera???? 💀 Nah fr fr....it IS so much easier to just listen to the members and believe what they say instead of twisting things around to match some preconceived idea of who a person is based on the insanely small amounts of time we get to see them on camera. Why are they stanning a group (or member) that's promoted as genuine if they don't think they're genuine??? And that honestly means they're all genuine or they're all NOT genuine because what we do see of them is the only thing we can actually make theories about. And what we see if them on camera and what they've explained to us about what they do off camera is that they all love each other to pieces.

So we can pretty much categorize taekookers under this category too. They do it for different reasons but they definitely are the type not to believe what their eyes see, but they still see it so they lash out against a particular person and a particular agency. Some are brainwashed. Some can't leave the community they feel comfortable in. Some are addicted to the feeling of looking for the wrongs in the world and being a savior of this one group of people. Some do it because it adds what they think is a measure of control to their lives. There's various reasons and it's all being heavily studied right now due to the Q-anon conspiracy theorists. Flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, government conspiracy theorists, religious fundamentalists, N@zis, people that deny the moon landing...etc...they're all using the same fallacy pitfalls. And it's possible that people who fall under one category are more likely to be predisposed to fall under the others. It's makes them kinda like ticking time 💣. The more their lies are proven to be unfounded, the more loss of control they feel or the more pressure they feel to "take drastic actions to become the savior of the story." That's how we got January 6th in America, September 11, 2001, April 19, 1995 in Oklahoma....and how that Weverse post happened.

They aren't the crusaders they think they are and everything they see, hear, touch, interact with in regards to the members gets placed through this inaccurate filter first. And I mean EVERYTHING. 😩

Do not, under any circumstances, underestimate how dangerous this group can become if they feel pushed hard enough. This Weverse post happened over a "bite" that had happened months before the fandom even found out about it.

Then you have this group: they jealous 🙃

They want what they can't have and they want it badly enough that they act irrationally and emotionally instead of with empathy, logic, understanding, clarity, humanity...this list can go on and on. They'll still be jealous at the end of the day. 💅

Now....this other category of haters is the one that we do tend to see a lot of on social media. Let me preface by saying there's no such thing as "normal" in this world. We're all humans existing on a spectrum of existing/surviving/thriving...and whatever coping methods we've learned along the way to do that. So this group aren't well-adjusted individuals (again, who among us really is?). They seek out people they perceive as weaker so they can feel better about themselves (does this particular post of mine qualify???🤔). They have figured out different cues that they try to exploit in others so that they can feel smarter, stronger, in charge, more powerful, in control....these people target others in the fandom by going after the members or they target the members because, again, they aren't healthy humans. Therapy would help them. Yeah, I said it.

And this last group....the use of homophobic or other derogatory language....they're either part of the power-control group...or they're straight up homophobes or with internalized misogyny. They've identified someone as a "target" and have labeled them as "other" or "weaker" (mind you how well JM can kick our butts) therefore worthy of their scorn and hate and negativity. They've dehumanized a whole human! It doesn't matter to them what the other person feels or thinks or if their assumptions about that person are even correct. They don't care. Again, report and block these people. They don't just need therapy, they need intensive deprogramming and exposure and love and support to come out of the well of negativity they're currently drowning in.

This anon feature really gives this hatred such an outlet we'd never experience outside of the internet. And yeah, I'm gonna call them out right here:

Did you see that BigHit email address above?

Let me link it for you here 💜

Go ahead and report yourself. Go ahead and present your case in court if you feel so absolutely convinced of your moral and correct assumptions that you'd tell a person to their face all of the disgusting and abhorrent comments you've ever written about them under anon. Do it.

I. Dare. You.

BH has my face, my email, and my home address. I'm not worried about a thing coming back on me. Anti, can you say the same?

The queer baiting discussion is forever wild to me.

1, SK is sadly a deeply homophobic country, the thought that the big entertainment companies are writing gay fanservice scripts to squeeze a few dollars out of queer fans when I’m sure they’d rather not acknowledge they even exist is absolutely ludicrous.

2, Close, bordering on homo-romantic (to a foreign lens) friendships are common among young Koreans up to a certain age. The fact that k-pop stars grow up in an isolate bubble tend to extend those close bonds into adulthood. It’s not on them that foreign eyes read something else into it.

3, What western eyes read as queer baiting is generally elaborate y/n scenarios. (These are the things they sometimes do in skits on stage or in official content. Never the stuff they do backstage in their own time.) You’re not supposed to imagine the stars fucking behind closed doors, you are supposed to imagine that one of them is you. Again, these things are created for a local audience where any other read but straight would be uncommon. The intended audience knows the rules of the game, foreign audiences do not.

4, Idols are real people with real relationship, if they consistently read as queer to you maybe there is a reason for that. “Fanservice” is different shapes and forms occur in planned skits and official content. They don’t perform fanservice in their private time behind the scenes.

5, It is unfair to dismiss all expressions of queer love/closeness as queer baiting because these idols have very very limited opportunities to express themselves if they really are queer. They will most likely never be able to come out, not without ruining both their career and the careers of everyone who depend on them.

Amen to every single word anon.

What do u think if this momemt? https://twitter.com/keeponlovingv/status/1424354697981300737?s=21 I didn’t believe tkkers before when they said stuff intervene between them or suggest to behave...I think I’m hallucinating but now I kinda see what tkkers mean by that ..I didn’t know that I would say that ever...

Lmao hun. Where is the separation? That is a super cute clip of taekook, taekooking and being adorable. The staff says something, it looks like Kookie walks over to the side to hear them a bit better, then immediately goes back to his spot at Tae's side. Then he grabs onto him again and giggles and claps on his chest. Where is the separation? What were they doing wrong? And if they didn't want TK to be interacting on camera, why would they tell them on camera and leave it in the clip where they said to not interact? Wouldn't that make things more sus if they were trying to "hide a couple"? The logic is lacking all sense of actual logic....

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떡버 on Twitter

“나 지굼 이거보고 울고있어,,, 갑분 힝구 강아지되서 카메라 눈치보다가 형이 다시 붙여주니까 행복강아지된거,, ㅠ,, https://t.co/O5xL2H9HfG”

As for Kookies face. That's literally just his face. He wasn't being scolded. He was just there existing. Same for Namjoon. He didn't look irritated, he was just standing there. No one is separating taekook. And yes, I would say the same thing if this was a clip of Jikook or any other duo. This is not a case of a duo being separated. Especially because there is no separation.... lol and all the comments are just speculations over what Staff said to make JK walk away for .2 seconds. All saying things like obviously staff were telling him to stop touching Tae. None of them know and are just saying things to feed into their fantasy. If the staff told him not to be touchy with Tae, why would he go back to him and then rub all over his chest? That's kinda the opposite of what they were saying isn't it? Also, the staff don't care that much, I promise. They aren't keeping any of the boys apart.

It's important to remember that if you are going to be insecure over jikook, taekook should be the duo you should NEVER be insecure about. They are the only duo who has confirmed multiple times that they are not romantically or sexually involved and have actively shut down their shippers. Literally nothing else should matter, they have said and confirmed that they are friends and friends only.

Alyssa ❣️ on TikTok

Please just report and block the account. Tags for exposure: #straykids#skz#kpop#kpopfyp#bts#ateez#enhypen#twice

Why?  Why?  Why?

Stray Kids, a fourth generation band from JYP, have made a little piece of history of their own and topped the Billboard chart with their new album ‘Oddinary’.

Good for them!!!

Their success should be celebrated, not berated, including by Army.

There is no competition here, and it’s sad that there are ‘Army’ that feel there is.

Although I don’t love all of their music (I do definitely like some of their songs though), I do appreciate STZ, and personally love  the two Aussies in the band, one of whom was unafraid to admit his attraction to men (now being used against him in these disgusting comments - homophobic much?).

I would like to ask all those supposed Army that are on a crusade badmouthing STZ - what did Stray Kids ever do to BTS other than idolise them to deserve this reaction?

Bangchan just a couple of weeks ago praised JK, saying he looks at him as a role model even though they are the same age.  He has spoken in the past about his love for JK’s Euphoria and Stay too, and how JK is an incredible person.

Lee Know used to be a backup dancer for them, like for the whole Wings tour, and has mentioned on multiple occasions he’s Army.

Why can’t you love and support a band without attacking other artists?

Do these Army think so little of BTS that they need them to bad mouth other successful artists?

I can’t help but wonder the ethnicity of said Army.  Is this a racial thing?  Are BTS the good pet Koreans?  They’re ok.  But any other Korean band shouldn’t be allowed BTS’s success?

So, this is what I have to say to anyone who calls themselves Army and then proceeds to act this way (and I am talking about any kind of bad mouthing or belittling another band’s accomplishments) - 

You are no Army.

BTS as a band, and every single member of the band would not stand for such behaviour.  This is not what BTS stand for, definitely not their message, and they sure don’t need any fans of theirs to belittle other band’s accomplishments in order to upraise their own.  

Being Army means loving and supporting BTS, not hating others.

No one has accomplished what BTS have, but if they do, one day, well good for them.  BTS are the trailblazers, and we as Army should be proud of them and support them on their journey, whatever it may be.  Supporting them , by no means, means attacking other artists, their character, talent or accomplishments.

Grow up!!!

There is enough homophobia to deal with on a regular basis without logging on here and reading the 'takes' of people who think they are doing a moral service by calling Jikook 'shippers' out for 'shipping', or 'taking things too far', or being 'too convinced', or 'labeling people' (who must be presumed straight until explicitly stating otherwise). Until homosexuality is normalized in every society; until the trauma of centuries worth of generational stigma has been processed; until no one is expected to 'come out' or address their sexuality as if it falls outside of the norm; until we have equal rights, safety, dignity and representation everywhere; until no one on earth is murdered,fired, or lawfully 'punished' on the basis of their orientation, I reserve my right to interpret queerness and homoromanticism in art and actions where there is cause for me to do so.

By condemning all readings of romance in Jikook's content (see, Dynamite Christmas Remix selfie cam, MOTS1 Hickey, 'I'm Still Me', Tokyo GCF, Saipan GCF, 'Waking up and seeing Jungkook', ear sucking at RB, and much much more) you play into covert systems of homophobia. Is it ok for entertainment companies to "market using ships", but not ok for LGBTQ fans to engage in queer readings of content that explicitly seems to invite this? Is it ok for companies to wink at you and tease homoeroticism as long as you don't see it as in any way indicative of actual queerness, homoromanticism or coming from a subjective experience?

Art is sensual and often plays with aspects of eros. So must all reactions and interpretations of eroticism be natured heterosexual in order to not be seen as presuming, incorrect, or perverse?

There are many ways to say that you are intolerant of queerness. This one happens to be infuriating because so many people think they have a moral high ground. Just say you don't want your faves implicated in gay shit or that you don't even mind them seeming gay as long as we all assume it's just for show and for $$$ and move on.

I can't say why certain Jikook content is the way it is. I do not pretend to know their motivations or the motivations of their company. I think it would be very odd to think of certain things as nothing more than a string of coincidences or bad takes/wishful thinking. I may be incorrect. But please stop seeing queer people's expressions of connectedness, resonance and 'seen-ness' as crimes against the artists themselves.

Hi, sorry. Sorry. You dropped this, please allow me to return it to you 😍

You said this perfectly anon. Thank you. I have nothing to add.