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THE PARADOX OF TOLERANCE
TW// Suicide
Since no one else is willing to bring it up, I guess I have to, because why else would anyone stand up against verbal violence.
"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance."
Before I even get into what I want to post I want to provide some statistics to help put things in perspective.
And most importantly
I've never asked a single person to fight my fights, in fact I have always discouraged it. Because 99% of the time I know I can hold my own, I'm scrappy, and I don't take any shit. I know what I put out and what I'll receive but even I have my limits.
I don't throw the first stone when it comes to discrimination, because I 10000% believe you can use your words to get your point across without having to bring in bigotry or prejudice into the conversation.
When I reached out to people a few days ago, people were under the assumption that I was asking to "FIX IT" as a way to censor someone, and that's not it. People mistook my call for advocacy and summed it up to "mean girl behavior" or "I don't want to spread anymore hate" as a shield to hide behind. And look, I don't judge someone based on that, but I did want to highlight the dangers of online bullying. which I have done from the very beginning.
It wasn't just a shipping war shit, it wasn't just a hate on the members censorship, it was about staying silent in times when we shouldn't.
I didn't ask anyone to come out and write a big post saying "oh chikoorita I support you", NO, and if thats what peoples first response was then, babes, I was right when I said that people don't see the big picture.
A post was circulating around earlier this week about the passing of an idol, and I'm not here to speculate or use that as gossip, because thats fucking vile.
But the post did contain 3 people, not just idols, PEOPLE who passed away due to sucide; Song Yoo-Jung, Choi Jin-ra, Kim Jong-hyun, additional names to add - Goo Hara, Cha In-ha, are some that DID attribute their passing due to online harassment and bullying.
When I first got into BTS, Jonghyun was a name I knew because my youngest sibling is/was a a big SHINEE fan, not understanding what people in the industry went through silently, made me see things in a new perspective, especially when it came to online harassment and the way the public see's things like this as a spectacle, when it's nothing but. Because of THAT mindset, I have always approached my love for BTS in a kind and understanding way; from having learned about them, and the way they have been ruthlessly attacked not only in their public but also personal lives, I have always given them the grace they deserve.
I'm leaving this here because IU's message was something a lot of us didn't miss in relation to all the friends she lost in the last few years.
So yes, this recent attack on Tae, just like every other member of BTS has contineously inspired me to always use my voice against bullying and harassment, because some people don't know how to stop before it gets too far. I use my voice to highlight these issues because I understand that there's a lot of people who don't feel comfortable doing so, I know that their approach to silently do something is helpful in someways, especially to them.
But wanting advocacy vs someone assuming what I'm asking for is a different thing, because if people just stepped out of themselves, and actually listened to the people they are talking to, they'd learn so much more than what is ego based.
HAD anyone, who wasn't as emotionally strong, confident in their life as I am, and that I have people in my life who genuinely care and love me outside of social media, I genuinely don't think they'd be dealing with all of this in the same way I have.
We can sit here and split hairs and say that it's about that you get what you put out, but I've never put out bigotry, prejudice or any hate out in to the world, so this topic of "being ready to clap-back" is null-void when its no longer about the subject at hand, but has turned insidious.
It's been what 3/4 days now and I'm still getting made fun of for asking people to acknowledge the dangerous conversations going on, and my words have been continuously twisted to something it's not.
and it's not even about that specific account anymore, it's about the very thing people keep getting wrong. Everyone is so focused on ignoring something minimal and focusing on the "positive side of social media" that things have been more and more out of focus as the days go on.
Even if someone didn't misgender me, the fact that they have laughed about my name, my gender, and the derogatory names I have been called is a culpable to the online hate I have received the past few days. Because they didn't correct it, and neither did they stop the asks coming in, and the thing is you CHOOSE what you add in your space, and if CHOOSING to continue the derogatory and harmful convos surrounding people, makes you accountable without a doubt. And I'm not talking about matters of opinion or even about the differences in the way we view the world, no, I'm talking about the fact that because this behavior has continued I have been open to people gaslighting me, misgendering me and calling me derogatory terms all because I disagree with some peoples point of view.
In so many of my posts, I have mentioned that people kept misgendering me, I have specifically made it know to EVERYONE, and yet no one one is willing to talk about the elephant in the room.
Because at some point we do have to talk about this and ask to what ends?. When does someone who is Queer, existing in a queer space, surrounded by "queer supporters" who love a "queer couple" who tell me they have queer friends and family members in their life (as a subtle tokenization btw) when does a hate campaign end?. And thats what I meant by fix it. So many people here claim to be advocates, claim to support and be there for queer people, and yet, people have stood to the side and silently watched everything unfold.
And so my question once again is. When does it end?.
Because I have stated I'm not going anywhere, this little space I've created for myself is mine, not for anyone else.
So where does that leave us?. When does it end?. Does someone have to keep getting pushed and pushed and pushed and invalidated until they take their own life due to the dismissal of their identity?. And this is the safe space people claim to love and protect?.
"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant." because this is happening just as I predicted. Anyone and Everyone who doesn't agree with the narratives being pushed these past few days - there will be an attempt to eradicate the people who you all claim to love and support.
While everyone is listening to Yoongi's new song, make sure you pay attention to what he's trying to say, because its the exact same message I have been pointing out these next few days
Don't be another person who says "I wish knew" "I wish we could have done something" "be kind to everyone" "we don't know what someone is going through", which makes me laugh because people ARE telling you what they're going through........especially when people are "seeing" these things with their eyes closed
either be kind or don't. acknowledge that people - idols - PEOPLE see these things online and it does effect them like it does you and I. and thats the boundary that people don't seem to fucking get.
DO YOU GET IT NOW?.
This is a long ass post, but it would be really great if you all took the time to read it and to understand this song a bit better. Pretty please with sugar on top
UGH
disclaimer: these are my thoughts and mine alone, I am sharing my views on this song, and do not put these thoughts and perceptions unto BTS. Nor am I trying to convince people of anything.
What makes you angry?. For me, social injustice, social inequality, bigotry, racism, homophobia, prejudice of any kind, classist behavior, and ableism are some of the things that have personal weight and are important to me. And because most of the time my feelings are intense, whether those feelings fall under affection, loyalty, and devotion, anger seems to be the emotion that people seem to say I strongly exhibit. And it's funny to me because at most I feel annoyed, it takes A LOT for me to get angry but because my feelings and thoughts are so intense my "annoyance" is dramatized. This is my face most of the time TBH.
And that's not anyone else's fault except my own, and you know I'm a grown up, I can take that self reflection and awareness, but I have been trying to express myself more so that nothing is misconstrued or assumed. I also think it has to do A LOT with the fact that I curse, that seems to attach a certain level of aggression, but I really do just love cursy words.
So anyways ANGER, how does this all tie to BTS and UGH, and you see, there's a misconception when it comes to UGH, at first sound, because of the beat, aggression at most times and the way it is rapped, people do often mistake it for a diss song, and although it is a little bit of a diss song, it's actually more than that. So let's get to analyzing!. Weeee
Let's start get this started off with Yoongi
One of the things I love about Yoongi is that he's a no holds-bard kind of person, I resonate a lot with that, and I think at times, a lot of people take a lot of his "anger" and categorize him as someone who is cold, when that's simply not the truth, as a pisces I get my fellow pisceans. The misconception about his words are often lost in their meaning because people don't really go past the surface to understand his word play and his message. And although he is a badass, I do think he's more perceptive about people and his environment than what some are willing to credit him for.
His take on UGH, and the way he starts off the song with "Spark, those embers flaring up again, Before getting touched by the oil, they are swallowed" is a message about how people are so quick to express outrage and anger over the things that don't warrant that level of overreaction over the smallest of details. Comparing anger to embers of a fire, and how if we add fuel to the flame, we could get swallowed by it, anger can consume us if we use it so disparedenly, to the point where we don’t even know why we were angry in the first place. “Here comes the player of today, Once he starts latching onto a prey, yeah, Doongdoongdoong, it becomes everyone’s punching bag, doongdoongdoong", actually yeah I'm not going to lie, this bit was pretty fucking funny to me. Yoongi's level of sarcasm and how he calls things out are so subtle that it makes me laugh when others miss what he's saying. In that portion, Yoongi is poking fun at the people - you know what, no I'm just going to call them what they are, antis/haters/miserable, he's poking fun at those people who always seem to have the least bit of knowledge and once they find something they dislike about someone, they stick to that one small issue and refuse to let it go to the point where they look for every single little thing they dislike about someone, they pick apart everything, even the stupidest things, and thus making that person their emotional punching bag. It reminds me of this meme
When people dislike/hate someone they tend to find any little thing to nitpick at them, like looking for validation in everything so that they can continue to be little fucking haters. Like when Yoongi said something a long the lines of “we didnt have anyone else to talk about to when we got to this level of fame because there wasn't anyone else who had experienced this", and people will took that and said “he forgets the people before him".... and it's like, wtf? No, he just meant that it was hard to talk about their doubts, feelings of being overwhelmed and their concerns with someone in their industry and how lonely they felt. People say the most outrageous things just to victimize their faves and hate on BTS. But I DIGRESS. "Tooktook, poking around for no reason, tooktook, yeah, When there’s no reaction, he just kills the prey, pookpook, yeah", this to me, basically explain the way people get even more angry when the person they're trying to attack keeps on ignoring them, not giving them the satisfaction of a response. "Even truth becomes lies, Even lie becomes truth, In this place, everyone becomes someone with perfect moral thinking and judgment, How funny", I don't even have to explain that portion because it's so much in your face about its meaning, but let's give this a whirl. Remember when I mentioned performative activism? Apply that to every time you've seen people stand up about an issue or express outrage when it's just to attack someone else simply because they dislike them. The best example I have is how some people attacked JK recently. Were there points that we needed to discuss about that? Yes, of course, but it was in the manner that people held him accountable for an event he had nothing to do with except to perform. We saw the negative things people were saying about him, but HE was the only one getting that much negative attention, I don't even wonder why, I just know its because people hate BTS, and they will cling onto anything to bring them down. People like to talk about morals and ethical issues but it's selective, because if people cared about human rights issues, we would be talking about it as a whole instead of just selectively.
Time to talk about our prophet & lyrical poet
"Anger? Sure, it’s necessary, When something burns, it’s with purpose, Perhaps that’s our history, Sometimes that changes the world", Joon validates reasonable anger, and that is needed at times. We as humans have the right to be angry at things that have to do with us and our experiences. Going back to the things that make me mad, those things to me are valid reasons to let my rage known because they are things I have experienced and because injustice is something I honestly cannot stand for. I'm not saying it is my sole job to stand against bigots, but because I know what it's like to be a minority and be treated as such, if I didn't stand up for such injustices, the world wouldn't change, we wouldn't be able to change perspectives and call out ignorant rhetorics so that we may create safe spaces for people. A certain level of Anger IS needed to change the world. "But, this is human waste, not anger, What’s actual anger, you know? You kill, pretending it’s out of anger, driving me real angry, Countlessly many people who became numb" oooooh when I tell you how much I love that whole section.... So the hate BTS get, it's stupid; we all know that, right, yes sometimes we do need to hold our artists accountable so that they not only can grow but be able to see different perspectives; BTS are humans, they are flawed just like us, and they will make mistakes, BUT, mistakes are not what makes a person, the way they behave afterward is the TRUE MARK of a person. Namjoon calls out performative anger and calling it shit, but also states that because we use anger so casually and on things that DO NOT warrant anger, it is not only shit (human waste); we don't take anger seriously as we used to and that so many people are becoming numb and tired of that because anger is slowly becoming meaningless. "You’re not just killing me, For us, we’re used to stepping on shit, But look at those people who became desensitized, Human waste and indifference, you’re a team" This was my face when I read that part
I'm just going to leave this post here, come on click on it, it won't hurt you. If I was a BTS hater and I saw Namjoon say Human waste and indifference was synonymous to antis and what they deserve, you would NEVER see me ever again. I'd leave everything behind and live in a cave, I'd go off the grid and you'd never find me.
Now for Hobi's section, which BTW is the most important imo
(when I tell you Dior hobi changed my entire life, I mean it)
Foreword: This entire section TBH, is one of the main reasons why I don't get angry, I dont take a lot seriously esp whatever that discourse was over that shit post, because it wasn't genuine to me. The supposed "anger" that was shown by the other person was performative to me, and that's honestly why I responded in a troll manner, because I took none of that "anger" seriously. UNLESS an issue is of importance, I don't treat a lot of things seriously.
"I get outraged at the malicious anger, I get outraged at that anger that had to be put down" Hobi is sick of that fake shit, in short lol. No but seriously, IF anger was rightfully used in situations that warranted anger then we would actually make significant changes that could essentially make the world for the better. Use your anger for good, don't just throw it over every random little thing, like arguing with people about stuff that doesnt fucking matter, and actually put importance on the things that we need to be angry about. Anger governs this world, It’s like no one can live without anger. "They get angry, angry, and angry, and just like that, get crazy, UGH UGH UGH UGH", Hobi called people miserable, plain and simple, this blog is done, thank you all for coming to my Ted Talk…… Sorry that was a lame joke, but IDC I stand by it, lmfao. Ok he did call people miserable but its because people literally get angry over the most minor things. And I'm not going to lie, I know UGH came out before covid, but god, this portion of this verse is the best way that I can truly express what it has been like these past few years, especially on social media. Because we stayed home, and we had nothing but time, we consumed social media in a more aggressive way than ever before, and because A LOT of us experienced cabin fever, everything we saw made us angry, everything. Even if it was something to be annoyed at, we exponentially made it bigger than it was. "Tens of thousands of reasons to get angry, Good-intent, ill-intent, they are all the same, Sure, you can get angry, But if it causes harm to someone’s life, I don’t like it, Stop that ayy" I think for me, this part is the most important out of this whole song, it is to me the heart of what the rap group is trying to say to us, it's what Yoongi and Namjoon said but in a nutshell. Hobi out of the 3 always has a way to express things in a more direct way that carries emotion and intention, the rap group needed him because he is both parts of Yoongi and Joon, but also is himself. I dont know if that makes any sense to everyone else, but to me Hobi is the member that brings the most emotion to his raps and he simplifies it. Hobi is telling us that anger is ok, that its justified, and that we need anger in our lives, BUT that he doesn't like the anger that harms other people (can you see why I love that verse now). Honest question, do some of you read their lyrics?. Because if you did you'd know what BTS stands for and what their message means. Hobi and I don't like it when your "ANGER" hurts others, we don't like it when you use that anger to stir shit and drama, and we certainly don't like it when people dogpile and "cancel" someone over performative anger. So stop that shit.
"Someone’s action drives someone else into pain, Someone’s words make someone else hopeless, Someone’s split-second becomes someone else’s memory, Someone’s anger costs someone else’s life" If your anger causes someone else to get hurt and your words can cause someone to gain hate, a lot of you don't seem to understand the how much our words have weight to them. When you don't think about the way you say things, or the way you express "your anger" it can lead to serious problems. Let's say if you write a scathing post about someone and even though YOUR feelings are valid, it doesnt erase the fact that THAT person is now getting hate because of what they said. AND YES sometimes we do need to call it out, but when you don't include that person in the conversation and instead dogpile on them, you are leaving them open to get harassment. People are capable of having honest conversations and to talk things through, but it's the fact that on social media it's more about the drama than actually using common sense. You can critique people without being a fucking asshole, and it's the fact that harassment online DOES cause trauma, and can effect people negatively, and "Someone’s anger costs someone else’s life" is so important. Because yes anger is needed but when your anger is harmful it can cause serious damage. Like when that account wrote to me the following
BTW that account kept that post on their blog for MONTHS; it was even there a few days ago, last I checked, and suddenly today, it was gone, so come out of the woodwork and stand by your words. If I wasn't the strong person I am, and someone else had received that message, you bet your ass that would have caused some actual trauma. And I'm not saying that I'm a better person than someone else who would have been affected by that; what I'm saying is that I know myself, and I'm not ashamed of my mental health journey, and I won't let others try to shame me because there is NOTHING wrong with taking medication or seeking therapy. But the fact that the internet has allowed us to send people shit like that IS what's wrong with the world. You can be angry and disagree with someone, but the moment your words cause harm to someone else, it's time to take a step back and figure YOUR SHIT OUT, take your advice and reassess why you think that's ok.
"What’s wrong with you getting some hate, You make bank, why are you whining again, You should be willing to put up with that bit, ahem, If you made me do it, I would endure it all, If you made me do it, ahem, bihem, ahem" So this portion is really just the narrative we see all the time, esp towards BTS. Because they're wealthy and because they are famous, anti's and just people in general think they can sit there and judge them and hate on them and say it's because this is what "they signed up for". And if they would switch spots those that are sending hate towards BTS, would be able to endure it. The fact that we think that BTS deserve to get hate because it comes with the fame, is not only stupid but it's an opinion that is not based on reality. IF anyone received the amount of hate they do, IT WOULD affect their mental health, but the belief that famous people should get hate just because they're rich is such a terrible take. A take that we need to really address and discuss how toxic it is. I mean if you think about it, this verse is a sarcastic way of addressing this issue, BTS is pointing out that the public/antis/haters are also capable of getting critiqued. (NGL that last line might not make sense because it's late AF and I'm actually getting tired now)
TO CLOSE IT UP, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS LAST LINE
Let's close this post up because I'm tired.
"I get outraged at the malicious anger" I think we need to focus on the first part, malicious anger. It ties it all together, and address what BTS is trying to convey to us in this whole song, if your anger, is malicious, and it hurts others and leads to nothing but harm, then your anger is for not, it's wasted on shit that doesnt matter. Instead of focusing on the things we should focus on and getting angry at the things we should get angry, what we're doing instead is causing pain unto others.
UGH, is a diss song but not for the reasons we think it is, and I want to mention something about the expo because this post has been on my mind since then. Everything that led up to that concert, and the anger that BTS received was performative, and the fact that BTS performed this in front of not just the fans, but in front of their government was a direct message to them. And I'm too tired rn to tie it all together so I might come back and edit this, but the way BTS was treated and the way things were handled, it did not surprise me that this song was performed, BTS's anger is justified, but the latter was not.
As always
BTS FOREVER
excuse the typos and ill formed paragraphs. thanks!
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Goldie, for God's sake, answer me just this once. Please, like I told you before, I'm not a shipper and i have a reason why but i can't descussion it here. I'm just Jimin Stan.And all I care about is the comfort of this boy who took my mind called Park Jimin. Just a question if Jikook is real. Why do I feel that Jimin is always unhappy? He complains about loneliness and not getting and making friends. Does one live in illusion only and imagines that he is happy while he is always insinuating and complaining about loneliness and gloom? Don't you understand his feelings through his album? Is it logical that this side appears when you are happy with the one you love, or does the one you love not treat you well?Please, I don't want to accuse anyone, but it seems that Jimin has changed a lot since before He became shrunken in himself and shy too much. Where is the bold and flirtatious Jimin? Something must have happened to him. Something last. Did you read the Weverse magazine article about him because it made me cry so much?
Sigh
Ever heard the saying the higher you go the lonelier you become? Dude literally released an album that addresses his struggles with fame and being in the spotlight- as big as Jungkook's dick is and as sharp as his thrusts are- big dick don't cure everything so let's not lay it on him okay?
I don't know if he's become shrunken in himself and shy when Jungkook has been saying for years Jimin is the most shy member of bts he knows. He is extroverted sure but he's quiet demure and graceful elegant and pretty too. Don't confuse is public persona for his actual persona. He's used to performing his extroversion and playing up his daring character for TV.
Jimin the artist is not the same as Park Jimin the brother, son, friend and human others know and that's what he's been saying for years. So if you ask what happened to the old Jimin I'd say FUCK IT HE'S FINALLY FREE BOTTOMS UP
Like he said, raise a glass to the old him- emphasizes on old. He keeps trying to break loose from old habits and behaviors that hold him back and don't serve him. I'd wager one of such habits was keeping up with his public imagine of constantly being a spectacle.
His duality is part of who he is. We should give him room to express and explore himself without attaching vehemently to our single lensed view of him. There's nothing wrong with him.
But I understand your concern. I used to be like this too. for years he had said bulking up and building his body wasn't his thing. I nearly- well who am I kidding, I had an actual melt down when he started working out and building his body again because I thought he was being coerced into doing it again- turns out he just wanted to look ripped in jeans🥴
Dude was tryna get laid and I was out here cussing hybe out for oppressing him💀
I don't know if he's always unhappy when he's only opening up about his struggles which I think is a good thing for him and his fans. For me it helps me understand him more, empathize with him more and grow more closer to him.
Jimin is not the melancholic type.
The shit he deals with is real. I've heard many western artists complain of similar struggles and some of them are happily married with kids. Relationships are not a magic cure for loneliness especially if the feeling of loneliness IS NOT STEMMING FROM LACK OF HUMAN CONNECTION.
Do you actually thing Park jimin is lonely because he lacks intimacy and human connection? Loneliness is a complex issue and many things can lead to a person feeling this way. For me, I think he's inability to be who he really is was his biggest emotional trigger. He lives in a conformist society surrounded by people who constantly expect maturity and discipline from him, with a fan base that will desert him and unstan him if he says the wrong thing, dates the wrong person or make the move. There's no room for mistakes and that can be pretty dehumanizing.
Social expectations can alienate people and I'm afraid jimin is no exception. And in case you aren't aware, life sucks and hits every body including Jimin.
I don't appreciate you demanding my attention in this way. It makes me feel I have to rush my response so if this feels rushed it's on you🙃
I saw a picture of a cat online and felt compelled to do this
Hilo!
I've been seeing a translation of this going around Twitter saying the word dangsin is written here but I can't find any other translations from other translators. Is this true?
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Hi, thanks for the message!
Yes, indeed the word '당신' is written in this part but in combination with 만 ('only') and 이 (grammatical particle) which is why it might appear less visible for you. Plus it is within a lyric line that goes "오직 당신만이 날 지켜주었던" with a loose translation as: "only you the one who protected me"
(As a stylistic choice for lyrical use of 당신 here fits very well as it sounds poetic and more elevated, plus '오직 당신만' is a typical phrase to express emotions poetically and emphasize that the 'you' is the one and only (오직 - only, sole with - 만 as suffix that means only, thus the double emphasis)
It's just tiny details but as always, that's where the really interesting parts lie 😊 Hope my short explanation helped a bit!
I actually enjoy this numbering thing, it's very interesting and an efficient way to give more insight
Hello, I found this old quote from jimin and I’ve seen it translated elsewhere but I was hoping to get your take on it? It’s from this article
https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/415/0000001635?sid=004
지민_ 중학교 3학년 때부터 춤을 춰왔고 부산예고에 수석 입학 할 만큼 소문난 춤꾼이지만 동시에 매력적인 보컬로 방탄소년단만의 색깔을 만드는 데 큰 역할을 했다. 또 ‘짐드백’(지민+샌드백)이란 별명이 생길 정도로 팀 내 서열 꼴찌가 됐는데 어쩌다 이렇게 됐나.
▲ 춤뿐 아니라 보컬에 대한 고민도 많은 편이다. 보컬적인 면에서 아직 너무 부족하다고 생각하기 때문에 스스로 만족할 수 있을 만큼 노력해서 더 좋은 노래를 들려드리고 싶다. 서열 꼴찌인 건 인정한다. 막내 정국이한테 던져지고 나서 이렇게 된 것 같다. ‘정국 맘’이라는 별명이 있는데 이제 ‘정국 장난감’이 된 것 같다.(웃음) 반항할 수 없기도 하지만 그런 장난이 싫지 않기 때문에 어쩔 수 없다.
Hi, thanks a lot for your message.
Since it's quite a bit of text I will give a translation without much of explaining around it for the parts where it just mentions Jimin's history etc and focus more on the parts which I assume were the reason you sent me the message for.
Here I will also try to make it more fun for me (and for those who are maybe interested in going more in depth too) by showing multiple ways of translating certain words or phrases, ranging from 1st option marked as ¹ - 'closest to source' translation (which I typically provide to show what was said in original word as opposed to just transforming it to be more seemless and easier to understand for an English speaker) /2nd option marked as ²- close synonym (kind of middle of the two, optional) / 3rd option marked as ³- 'looser, more flexible' translation (might not be mirroring the source text 100% but brings the essence of the word, phrase closer to the English language and its context). This is just to show translations can vary depending on stylistic choice and preference. Naturally, this doesn't always apply though and there's many further nuances that can be discussed etc.
Note: if you wish to skip the (admittedly long) explanation and my weird number exercise, scroll to the bottom for clean translation.
지민_ 중학교 3학년 때부터 춤을 춰왔고 부산예고에 수석 입학 할 만큼 소문난 춤꾼이지만 동시에 매력적인 보컬로 방탄소년단만의 색깔을 만드는 데 큰 역할을 했다.
또 ‘짐드백’(지민+샌드백)이란 별명이 생길 정도로 팀 내 서열 꼴찌가 됐는데 어쩌다 이렇게 됐나.
"Jimin- You've been dancing since the third grade of middle school and were such a notorious dancer to the point that you got accepted to Busan Arts High School as the top student (*수석 입학), but at the same time, you also played a big role in creating BTS' own specific colors with your ¹attractive / ²appealing vocals.
Though on top of that, you came in ¹last position in the team ranking / ³were last in the team pecking order to such an extent that you ³earned yourself a nickname ¹'jim-deubaek' / ²'jim-dbag' / ³'jim-punchbag' (Jimin + ¹sandbag / ³punching bag), ¹how did it happen / ³how come / ³how did this come about?"
(*note: here of course the tone is playful and the meaning obviously isn't referring to any harmful violence, the question is posed in a way that it implies Jimin is both the top (skills, influence wise) and then finds himself at the bottom when it comes to certain power hierarchy in the group, like when they joke around together (even physically), to the point that not even the youngest regards him as a 'hyung' and rather plays around with him, which Jimin then refers to in the response accordingly)
춤뿐 아니라 보컬에 대한 고민도 많은 편이다. 보컬적인 면에서 아직 너무 부족하다고 생각하기 때문에 스스로 만족할 수 있을 만큼 노력해서 더 좋은 노래를 들려드리고 싶다.
서열 꼴찌인 건 인정한다. 막내 정국이한테 던져지고 나서 이렇게 된 것 같다. ‘정국 맘’이라는 별명이 있는데 이제 ‘정국 장난감’이 된 것 같다.(웃음) 반항할 수 없기도 하지만 그런 장난이 싫지 않기 때문에 어쩔 수 없다.
"Not only dancing, I tend to worry a lot about my vocals too. I think I am still lacking in the vocal aspect, therefore I want to try hard enough to be satisfied with myself and give you better songs.
I admit to being last in ³the pecking order. I think ¹it became/ ³I ended up like this after ¹being ¹thrown / ³tossed around by ¹the maknae Jungkook. I have the nickname ¹'Jungkook's mum' (*the word mum spelled in Korean) but now / from now on I think I am becoming ¹'Jungkook's toy' / ³'Jungkook's plaything'. (Laughter) I cannot ¹defy it / ²resist, but since I don't hate these kind of ¹antics/ ¹play / ²jokes / ²mischief, ¹there's nothing to do / ³I can't help it."
Concluding note: by giving multiple options I tried to show that there are always various ways to go about translations. Here I would say to avoid misunderstanding, it's better to try to convey the meaning of what was said with a bit more flexible translation.
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TLDR, clean translation:
Reporter: "(Jimin) You've been dancing since the third grade of middle school and were such a notorious dancer to the point that you got accepted to Busan Arts High School as the top student, but at the same time, you also played a big role in creating BTS' own specific colors with your attractive vocals. Though on top of that, you were last in the team pecking order to such an extent that you earned yourself a nickname 'jim-punchbag' (Jimin +punching bag), how did this come about?"
JM: "Not only dancing, I tend to worry a lot about my vocals too. I think I am still lacking in the vocal aspect, therefore I want to try hard enough to be satisfied with myself and give you better songs. I admit to being last in the pecking order. I think I ended up like this after being tossed around by the maknae Jungkook. I have the nickname 'Jungkook's mum' but now I think I am becoming 'Jungkook's plaything'. (Laughter) I cannot defy it, but since I don't hate these kind of antics, there's nothing to do about it."
(exerpt from 그 여름, 우리가 사랑한 방탄소년단, published 27.07.2016 by atstar1)
Do you ever look at Jimin's bare shoulder and feel like a Victorian man glimpsing a maiden's ankle, or are you normal?
Ok this is the most accurate description of BTS ever made in my opinion
Hello kind stranger. I like your blog and as a follow up to your other anon I hope it's okay to share my thoughts on why I personally feel Jikook are very much a thing now more than ever with you (you don't have to post this). I trust my eyes, ears and gut feeling and as a mature army I think I know how a potential relationship look like pretty well and some of the things I see Jikook are doing {what they don't do is also very telling} makes me go DING DING DING every single time so here are my two cents:
The amount of shows and Korean dramas they have to watch together because unless they tell each other everything they do over the phone and are into the exact same jokes in at least 15 different dramas and memes it's almost impossible to have this amount of similar banters so I can't help but thinking they spend a lot of time together and we just don't get to see it. I also think there are small signs that they could be living together but nobody can tell for sure but that's a different topic
Jimin apologizing for JK acting up in a cute harmless way or thanking others who compliments him. Basically how they have interesting different boundaries when it comes to each other that goes beyond taking care of a friend: ^Want me to cut if for you? Don't show your toe socks on live^ You need to make him feel better not making fun of his UN mistake^ and more
Interactions that can't be explained if they are just platonic friends in my humble opinion. For instance Hobi asking Jimin why he's doing his birthday live in JK studio and Jimin doesn't have an answer but looking down and smiling while JK changed the topic with dancing, followed by Hobi giggling and hugging Jimin. The time Hobi teased Jimin about JK being in charge of clothes and again Jimin stuttered. These interactions combined with small gestures like JK waiting for Jimin to pass so he can walk right after him or holding his bags or always wanting to do the heavy lifting even in games as an instinct (have you seen this run episode?) speak volumes to me and only amplifying what I think
Which brings me to the neck bite gate, the ear sucking on stage, the thirst trap birthday wish, GCF Tokyo, maybe the initials tattoos. regardless of what people say it can't be denied that no one will do those things for someone if they are in a romantic relationship with another person. No one will stay awake at night to act sexy in a birthday video for someone you are heavily rumored to be in relationship with when you are already in a relationship. it's disrespectful and rude towards your partner and doesn't fit with the people I think JK or Jimin are. I fully believe that this is a universal truth and that is the real reason why haters always call the 4, 5 BIG jikook moments a lie or ignore them like the plague with childish excuses because even they know deep down that you simply don't do that when you have a boyfriend or girlfriend at home. I'm not one of those people who think Jikook have been together for a decade or know for a fact they are exclusive but these instances happened in the span of years. Just saying
Their early days. Jimin used to ask for kisses constantly and Jungkook was very much into letting Jimin win at games, stand offs and what not. I think it's safe to say both acted towards each other in a a unique way that is different to the rest of the members and I find it interesting how Jimin stopped asking and how JK is still to this day is very gentle when it comes to Jimin. it was very much a puppy love that could have evolved in time to a relationship which is very natural in a place of work
The level of intimacy that is different even for BTS standards. For instance JK seeking with his hand to find bare skin or taking a bite from the pizza silce at the similar spot or proudly showing a neck bite from Jimin on his neck and everything they did in point 4.
Body language- the way they turn their full body towards each other on stage, photos, during games, in official promo videos, the way they sit, and even when they are telling jokes tables apart
Their own bandmates and how they look at one of them when the other one is doing something funny or worth mentioning. very much a setting of a group of friends singling out a couple
The people in their lives seem close. Parents, brother, Poly C, even some of their follow list.
Similar views on life, answers, experiences, likes and dislikes. They click too well and there's a reason why there's endless footage of them doing nothing on the side but enjoying their time together
I won't pretend that I know anything as a fact but ironically in jikook history a lot of things become less complicated and MUCH more easier to explain if they are a couple than if they are not so I go by the rule 'the simplest explanation is usually the correct one'.
Yes yes hell to the yes.
What you said.
JUSTICE FOR DREAMERS + LEFT & RIGHT
Spotify removing streams for Left and Right and then changing Jungkook’s ranking from #1 K-pop soloist of 2022
EVEN THOUGH he’s the most streamed artist in that category.
YouTube sabotaging his Dreamers streams which then led to Billboard to not count the overall streams from the MV + Bangtan and FIFA performance vids. 40M streams were removed, 40M……..
When I tell you that the industry is sabotaging BTS I mean it.
And look, no shade to that girl but the #’s don’t lie
When this predictions stats started circulating around the TL 2 days before BB’s announcement I was trying to figure out why it didn’t make sense - and I want to be clear, please don't rely on prediction stats they often times can be unreliable. The only reason that one caught my attention was because I was tracking Jungkook's performance that entire week (given YT's shit show) and the stats on here didnt make sense because where did those numbers come from. But once BB announced their weekly charts ranking, it would make sense WHY that stats account was "right", but it didnt matter, the numbers we calculated and tracked DID NOT match the reality of jk's streams.
Because he debut on Spotify with 6,339,918 unfiltered streams, their overall debut week was 32.03 unfiltered streams AND with 4.8M streams (filtered). And that should have included the MV+ performances streams. Sales was more that 19.3k, considering that he was on Apple’s USA #1 digital sales for 5/6 days.
That makes no sense whatsoever, he should have been #1 on the 200 charts + the global charts, AND he should have made it higher on the list on the hot100.
This might sound like nonsense to a lot of people, but this is why it’s important, at least to me, why we should teach ourselves about the system in the music industry.
No one taught us how to read stats + how to understand BB’s points breakdown, we learned it on our own, because if we hadn’t we wouldn’t have been able to see how corrupt the industry is. Learning all of this has helped us in calling out the injustices that BTS have faced.
If there’s one thing I always tell baby ARMY it’s “learn about the charts, do your research and always ask fellow ARMY when something doesn’t make sense”.
Knowledge is power and it’s the only way for us hold these companies accountable
JUSTICE FOR JUNGKOOK
So you don’t have to publish this if you don’t feel comfortable, but I kinda wanted your opinion on this.
It may sound dramatic, but I haven’t been able to call myself an army since the news of the World Cup came out. I am so incredibly disappointed in bts and bighit.
When I got into bts they brought me so much comfort and helped me through some tough times. I enjoyed their music and was always very proud of the message they tried to share with the world. Yes, some of their older content is uncomfortable to watch for the casual misogyny and homophobia, but as a queer woman I perfectly understand internalized homophobia and misogyny and I wouldn’t want to be judged for what I said or did in 2014. They had shown they had grown and learned. They always spoke up against people in power abusing it and about social justice.
So what happened? Did they became worldwide stars and decided “who cares about our message anymore! Let’s support a tournament that is basically a celebrations of the violation of human rights?”
Supporting the World Cup is basically saying they don’t care that over 6000 people died building the stadiums. They don’t care that lgbtq people die in that country. They don’t care about women and women’s rights.
This is not the bts I thought I knew, and I’m talking about all of them because if the other six were strongly opposed to this, I honestly doubt jungkook would be flying over there right now. But here we are.
I mean I could even understand that it’s a huge honor for a South Korean to sing for the first time at a World Cup opening ceremony, but let’s not forget that SK with Japan hosted the 2002 World Cup (and that was a mess as well, just google about the referee Moreno and bribes about that World Cup).
Idk I think they really fucked up this time. And if they have no qualms to stand up for human rights violations, than I don’t think I can call myself their fan. I’m also disappointed in armies (on twitter mostly) that have been insulting anyone who pointed out how this is a very poor decision that does not reflect well on bts’s character and morals. You may disagree, but you can’t deny the facts.
I read dualipa’s reaction (who I don’t follow and don’t know anything about) about being rumored to sing and the World Cup, and I can’t help but wish that had been bts answer as well.
Hi. So I'm not going to tell you how to feel. Your feelings and concerns are valid and they are your own. What you choose to do based on how you feel is also totally and completely up to you. Your choice/feelings aren't wrong either way you feel about. Nor do i want to dismiss all the issues and valid crisitisms surrounding the world cup and Qatar. So please know that its okay to be upset about it. And I don't want to bring up past controversies either but idk if you were around in 2019 or if you feel like this is any different than the issues surrounding their choice to perform in Saudi Arabia?
For background if you werent aware of the issues they faced for the decison to hold that concert, ill give an overview:
Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman took the throne in 2015, and he has since been making efforts to make the country more moderate and less conservative with several reforms. According to Wikipedia, some of those reforms would be: "regulations restricting the powers of the religious police, the removal of the ban on female drivers in June 2018, and weakening the male-guardianship system in August 2019. Other cultural developments under his reign include the first Saudi public concerts by a female singer, the first Saudi sports stadium to admit women, and an increased presence of women in the workforce." Regardless Saudi Arabia is still quite a bit most other countries in terms of human rights. Its bombings and attacks in Yemen have led to mass famines and deaths, and the Saudi government has been criticized for detaining and torturing human rights activists and LGBTQ people. Women also still don’t have most of the rights they should, and still require a male family member’s permission before doing things like traveling or getting a passport among other things. The Prince and the Gov there have also been heavily critized for their actions being more performantive and less about actually pushing forward more human rights. I don't know much more, so I don't want to speak to heavily on either country (SA or Qatar).
In an effort to be more modern and open, they invited many artists to perform. Among those artists were BTS and they accepted. You mentioned Dua Lipa refusing Qatar performance, so I'll also mention Nikki Minaj refused to perform in Saudi Arabia for similar reasons, citing women's treatment in the country as her reason. Regardless of her close friendships with pedophiles and rapists, she was lauded for the decision as a morally righteous one by many people. Dua Lipa's stance on Qatar is just as morally questionable as being performative based on where else she choices to perform. But that's stuff (for both Nikki and Dua Lipa) that you can look up for yourselves if you want.
BTS were questioned about this decision too actually and in an interview stated: “I wouldn’t say the decision it was easy,” Namjoon said. Jimin added: “But we were officially invited. It’s been a while since we’ve performed in the Middle East – I guess the last time was 2015 in Dubai. To put it simply, if there’s a place where people want to see us, we’ll go there. That’s how we feel.”
Many fans stuck up for BTS during this and said that this performance was for their fans, not for the Saudi government. Which is what their reasoning was. They weren't promoting the governments actions or laws or decisions. They weren't supporting it. They were going to see their fans and share love and music with the world. Both BTS and their staff was also praised for being very considerate of Saudi Arabia's cultural customs and giving space to them and following them when they could (such as not wearing gold jewelry, not showing skin during performances they otherwise do, like Serendipity, pausing rehearsals for muslism prayer times, etc)
Similarly again, just more recently in 2022, BTS were invited by the President of the United States to speak at the White House. And they accepted and went, with little criticism in that aspect. Regardless of the fact that the US is steadily stripping human rights away from people more and more, with endless human rights violations and imperialism over the past few years. With children being taken from parents at the border and put in cages, with POC being murdered by the policing force constantly, with LGBTQ people in fear of their basic human rights being taken away, with women's rights to their own bodily autonomy being argued over daily and taken away in many places in the country. They came to speak specifically about one issue, one problem, that they and many of their fans relate to and face. Anti Asian hate crimes. So they accepted. That's not them promoting and accepting and being okay with everything else.
And yes, BTS are known for talking about controversial topics about their own country in their lyrics. Standing up for people and being willing to criticize their Gov and laws at times, this does not make them politicians or responsible for making a statement over everything. That hasn't changed. Their stance on things or how they feel about it. At least, not that I can tell. I don't know Jungkook's or BTS' motivations behind accepting to do a performance at the World Cup or to do a song for them (because they did release a new verison of Yet To Come specifically for Qatar World Cup promotions). Maybe they will make a statement at some point. Maybe they won't unless asked about it. Maybe they just wanted to do something extra for their fans and found this to be a big opportunity to do so. Maybe they are bigger fans of Soccer/Football then we thought and so they were excited about that portion of this as well. We know they like Messi they've said so. They've had multiple good interactions with Son Heungmin, who is a soccer player for South Korea. We also know Korea will be playing in the World Cup to, so maybe they were asked to represent their country more at the World Cup. And they accepted. Similarly to how they accepted to support Busan's bid to host the World Expo with their free Yet To Come concert held in Busan. Despite the issues with that and with South Koreas own issues with government and laws that are heavily conservative against LGBTQ people and woman as well.
So I guess, my point is, we don't know why they accepted. Even if it's as simple as it's a huge opportunity and they just wanted to... I don't think it changes how they've made it clear that they stand in support of queer people, of women, of love. How they really value their fans and people and want the world to be a better place. They just spoke about all these values at the UN recently as well. So no, I don't think world wide fame changed that for them.
BTS are human. They are not perfect. They will make mistakes and will and can grow from the choices they make. You also, as a fan, do not have to like or agree with everything they do. You aren't even necessarily SUPPOSED to. They aren't God's. They shouldn't be placed on a pedestal of beings who can do no wrong. You will then be disappointed. You are allowed to not like this choice or to think it's a bad one. But I don't think this choice means they are supporting the fucked up violations of human rights that are present there nor do i think this choice is indicative of them not being or no longer being good people. And I think saying that this is them supporting those policies is not fact, as anon stated, but opinion. And you are entitled to your opinion and to your feelings over the matter as well. But these are mine and if you are upset solely about one thing with one place they've traveled to, but not the others, that's something that might be cause for some inner reflection as well.
So you don’t have to publish this if you don’t feel comfortable, but I kinda wanted your opinion on this.
It may sound dramatic, but I haven’t been able to call myself an army since the news of the World Cup came out. I am so incredibly disappointed in bts and bighit.
When I got into bts they brought me so much comfort and helped me through some tough times. I enjoyed their music and was always very proud of the message they tried to share with the world. Yes, some of their older content is uncomfortable to watch for the casual misogyny and homophobia, but as a queer woman I perfectly understand internalized homophobia and misogyny and I wouldn’t want to be judged for what I said or did in 2014. They had shown they had grown and learned. They always spoke up against people in power abusing it and about social justice.
So what happened? Did they became worldwide stars and decided “who cares about our message anymore! Let’s support a tournament that is basically a celebrations of the violation of human rights?”
Supporting the World Cup is basically saying they don’t care that over 6000 people died building the stadiums. They don’t care that lgbtq people die in that country. They don’t care about women and women’s rights.
This is not the bts I thought I knew, and I’m talking about all of them because if the other six were strongly opposed to this, I honestly doubt jungkook would be flying over there right now. But here we are.
I mean I could even understand that it’s a huge honor for a South Korean to sing for the first time at a World Cup opening ceremony, but let’s not forget that SK with Japan hosted the 2002 World Cup (and that was a mess as well, just google about the referee Moreno and bribes about that World Cup).
Idk I think they really fucked up this time. And if they have no qualms to stand up for human rights violations, than I don’t think I can call myself their fan. I’m also disappointed in armies (on twitter mostly) that have been insulting anyone who pointed out how this is a very poor decision that does not reflect well on bts’s character and morals. You may disagree, but you can’t deny the facts.
I read dualipa’s reaction (who I don’t follow and don’t know anything about) about being rumored to sing and the World Cup, and I can’t help but wish that had been bts answer as well.
Hi. So I'm not going to tell you how to feel. Your feelings and concerns are valid and they are your own. What you choose to do based on how you feel is also totally and completely up to you. Your choice/feelings aren't wrong either way you feel about. Nor do i want to dismiss all the issues and valid crisitisms surrounding the world cup and Qatar. So please know that its okay to be upset about it. And I don't want to bring up past controversies either but idk if you were around in 2019 or if you feel like this is any different than the issues surrounding their choice to perform in Saudi Arabia?
For background if you werent aware of the issues they faced for the decison to hold that concert, ill give an overview:
Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman took the throne in 2015, and he has since been making efforts to make the country more moderate and less conservative with several reforms. According to Wikipedia, some of those reforms would be: "regulations restricting the powers of the religious police, the removal of the ban on female drivers in June 2018, and weakening the male-guardianship system in August 2019. Other cultural developments under his reign include the first Saudi public concerts by a female singer, the first Saudi sports stadium to admit women, and an increased presence of women in the workforce." Regardless Saudi Arabia is still quite a bit most other countries in terms of human rights. Its bombings and attacks in Yemen have led to mass famines and deaths, and the Saudi government has been criticized for detaining and torturing human rights activists and LGBTQ people. Women also still don’t have most of the rights they should, and still require a male family member’s permission before doing things like traveling or getting a passport among other things. The Prince and the Gov there have also been heavily critized for their actions being more performantive and less about actually pushing forward more human rights. I don't know much more, so I don't want to speak to heavily on either country (SA or Qatar).
In an effort to be more modern and open, they invited many artists to perform. Among those artists were BTS and they accepted. You mentioned Dua Lipa refusing Qatar performance, so I'll also mention Nikki Minaj refused to perform in Saudi Arabia for similar reasons, citing women's treatment in the country as her reason. Regardless of her close friendships with pedophiles and rapists, she was lauded for the decision as a morally righteous one by many people. Dua Lipa's stance on Qatar is just as morally questionable as being performative based on where else she choices to perform. But that's stuff (for both Nikki and Dua Lipa) that you can look up for yourselves if you want.
BTS were questioned about this decision too actually and in an interview stated: “I wouldn’t say the decision it was easy,” Namjoon said. Jimin added: “But we were officially invited. It’s been a while since we’ve performed in the Middle East – I guess the last time was 2015 in Dubai. To put it simply, if there’s a place where people want to see us, we’ll go there. That’s how we feel.”
Many fans stuck up for BTS during this and said that this performance was for their fans, not for the Saudi government. Which is what their reasoning was. They weren't promoting the governments actions or laws or decisions. They weren't supporting it. They were going to see their fans and share love and music with the world. Both BTS and their staff was also praised for being very considerate of Saudi Arabia's cultural customs and giving space to them and following them when they could (such as not wearing gold jewelry, not showing skin during performances they otherwise do, like Serendipity, pausing rehearsals for muslism prayer times, etc)
Similarly again, just more recently in 2022, BTS were invited by the President of the United States to speak at the White House. And they accepted and went, with little criticism in that aspect. Regardless of the fact that the US is steadily stripping human rights away from people more and more, with endless human rights violations and imperialism over the past few years. With children being taken from parents at the border and put in cages, with POC being murdered by the policing force constantly, with LGBTQ people in fear of their basic human rights being taken away, with women's rights to their own bodily autonomy being argued over daily and taken away in many places in the country. They came to speak specifically about one issue, one problem, that they and many of their fans relate to and face. Anti Asian hate crimes. So they accepted. That's not them promoting and accepting and being okay with everything else.
And yes, BTS are known for talking about controversial topics about their own country in their lyrics. Standing up for people and being willing to criticize their Gov and laws at times, this does not make them politicians or responsible for making a statement over everything. That hasn't changed. Their stance on things or how they feel about it. At least, not that I can tell. I don't know Jungkook's or BTS' motivations behind accepting to do a performance at the World Cup or to do a song for them (because they did release a new verison of Yet To Come specifically for Qatar World Cup promotions). Maybe they will make a statement at some point. Maybe they won't unless asked about it. Maybe they just wanted to do something extra for their fans and found this to be a big opportunity to do so. Maybe they are bigger fans of Soccer/Football then we thought and so they were excited about that portion of this as well. We know they like Messi they've said so. They've had multiple good interactions with Son Heungmin, who is a soccer player for South Korea. We also know Korea will be playing in the World Cup to, so maybe they were asked to represent their country more at the World Cup. And they accepted. Similarly to how they accepted to support Busan's bid to host the World Expo with their free Yet To Come concert held in Busan. Despite the issues with that and with South Koreas own issues with government and laws that are heavily conservative against LGBTQ people and woman as well.
So I guess, my point is, we don't know why they accepted. Even if it's as simple as it's a huge opportunity and they just wanted to... I don't think it changes how they've made it clear that they stand in support of queer people, of women, of love. How they really value their fans and people and want the world to be a better place. They just spoke about all these values at the UN recently as well. So no, I don't think world wide fame changed that for them.
BTS are human. They are not perfect. They will make mistakes and will and can grow from the choices they make. You also, as a fan, do not have to like or agree with everything they do. You aren't even necessarily SUPPOSED to. They aren't God's. They shouldn't be placed on a pedestal of beings who can do no wrong. You will then be disappointed. You are allowed to not like this choice or to think it's a bad one. But I don't think this choice means they are supporting the fucked up violations of human rights that are present there nor do i think this choice is indicative of them not being or no longer being good people. And I think saying that this is them supporting those policies is not fact, as anon stated, but opinion. And you are entitled to your opinion and to your feelings over the matter as well. But these are mine and if you are upset solely about one thing with one place they've traveled to, but not the others, that's something that might be cause for some inner reflection as well.
So you don’t have to publish this if you don’t feel comfortable, but I kinda wanted your opinion on this.
It may sound dramatic, but I haven’t been able to call myself an army since the news of the World Cup came out. I am so incredibly disappointed in bts and bighit.
When I got into bts they brought me so much comfort and helped me through some tough times. I enjoyed their music and was always very proud of the message they tried to share with the world. Yes, some of their older content is uncomfortable to watch for the casual misogyny and homophobia, but as a queer woman I perfectly understand internalized homophobia and misogyny and I wouldn’t want to be judged for what I said or did in 2014. They had shown they had grown and learned. They always spoke up against people in power abusing it and about social justice.
So what happened? Did they became worldwide stars and decided “who cares about our message anymore! Let’s support a tournament that is basically a celebrations of the violation of human rights?”
Supporting the World Cup is basically saying they don’t care that over 6000 people died building the stadiums. They don’t care that lgbtq people die in that country. They don’t care about women and women’s rights.
This is not the bts I thought I knew, and I’m talking about all of them because if the other six were strongly opposed to this, I honestly doubt jungkook would be flying over there right now. But here we are.
I mean I could even understand that it’s a huge honor for a South Korean to sing for the first time at a World Cup opening ceremony, but let’s not forget that SK with Japan hosted the 2002 World Cup (and that was a mess as well, just google about the referee Moreno and bribes about that World Cup).
Idk I think they really fucked up this time. And if they have no qualms to stand up for human rights violations, than I don’t think I can call myself their fan. I’m also disappointed in armies (on twitter mostly) that have been insulting anyone who pointed out how this is a very poor decision that does not reflect well on bts’s character and morals. You may disagree, but you can’t deny the facts.
I read dualipa’s reaction (who I don’t follow and don’t know anything about) about being rumored to sing and the World Cup, and I can’t help but wish that had been bts answer as well.
Hi. So I'm not going to tell you how to feel. Your feelings and concerns are valid and they are your own. What you choose to do based on how you feel is also totally and completely up to you. Your choice/feelings aren't wrong either way you feel about. Nor do i want to dismiss all the issues and valid crisitisms surrounding the world cup and Qatar. So please know that its okay to be upset about it. And I don't want to bring up past controversies either but idk if you were around in 2019 or if you feel like this is any different than the issues surrounding their choice to perform in Saudi Arabia?
For background if you werent aware of the issues they faced for the decison to hold that concert, ill give an overview:
Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman took the throne in 2015, and he has since been making efforts to make the country more moderate and less conservative with several reforms. According to Wikipedia, some of those reforms would be: "regulations restricting the powers of the religious police, the removal of the ban on female drivers in June 2018, and weakening the male-guardianship system in August 2019. Other cultural developments under his reign include the first Saudi public concerts by a female singer, the first Saudi sports stadium to admit women, and an increased presence of women in the workforce." Regardless Saudi Arabia is still quite a bit most other countries in terms of human rights. Its bombings and attacks in Yemen have led to mass famines and deaths, and the Saudi government has been criticized for detaining and torturing human rights activists and LGBTQ people. Women also still don’t have most of the rights they should, and still require a male family member’s permission before doing things like traveling or getting a passport among other things. The Prince and the Gov there have also been heavily critized for their actions being more performantive and less about actually pushing forward more human rights. I don't know much more, so I don't want to speak to heavily on either country (SA or Qatar).
In an effort to be more modern and open, they invited many artists to perform. Among those artists were BTS and they accepted. You mentioned Dua Lipa refusing Qatar performance, so I'll also mention Nikki Minaj refused to perform in Saudi Arabia for similar reasons, citing women's treatment in the country as her reason. Regardless of her close friendships with pedophiles and rapists, she was lauded for the decision as a morally righteous one by many people. Dua Lipa's stance on Qatar is just as morally questionable as being performative based on where else she choices to perform. But that's stuff (for both Nikki and Dua Lipa) that you can look up for yourselves if you want.
BTS were questioned about this decision too actually and in an interview stated: “I wouldn’t say the decision it was easy,” Namjoon said. Jimin added: “But we were officially invited. It’s been a while since we’ve performed in the Middle East – I guess the last time was 2015 in Dubai. To put it simply, if there’s a place where people want to see us, we’ll go there. That’s how we feel.”
Many fans stuck up for BTS during this and said that this performance was for their fans, not for the Saudi government. Which is what their reasoning was. They weren't promoting the governments actions or laws or decisions. They weren't supporting it. They were going to see their fans and share love and music with the world. Both BTS and their staff was also praised for being very considerate of Saudi Arabia's cultural customs and giving space to them and following them when they could (such as not wearing gold jewelry, not showing skin during performances they otherwise do, like Serendipity, pausing rehearsals for muslism prayer times, etc)
Similarly again, just more recently in 2022, BTS were invited by the President of the United States to speak at the White House. And they accepted and went, with little criticism in that aspect. Regardless of the fact that the US is steadily stripping human rights away from people more and more, with endless human rights violations and imperialism over the past few years. With children being taken from parents at the border and put in cages, with POC being murdered by the policing force constantly, with LGBTQ people in fear of their basic human rights being taken away, with women's rights to their own bodily autonomy being argued over daily and taken away in many places in the country. They came to speak specifically about one issue, one problem, that they and many of their fans relate to and face. Anti Asian hate crimes. So they accepted. That's not them promoting and accepting and being okay with everything else.
And yes, BTS are known for talking about controversial topics about their own country in their lyrics. Standing up for people and being willing to criticize their Gov and laws at times, this does not make them politicians or responsible for making a statement over everything. That hasn't changed. Their stance on things or how they feel about it. At least, not that I can tell. I don't know Jungkook's or BTS' motivations behind accepting to do a performance at the World Cup or to do a song for them (because they did release a new verison of Yet To Come specifically for Qatar World Cup promotions). Maybe they will make a statement at some point. Maybe they won't unless asked about it. Maybe they just wanted to do something extra for their fans and found this to be a big opportunity to do so. Maybe they are bigger fans of Soccer/Football then we thought and so they were excited about that portion of this as well. We know they like Messi they've said so. They've had multiple good interactions with Son Heungmin, who is a soccer player for South Korea. We also know Korea will be playing in the World Cup to, so maybe they were asked to represent their country more at the World Cup. And they accepted. Similarly to how they accepted to support Busan's bid to host the World Expo with their free Yet To Come concert held in Busan. Despite the issues with that and with South Koreas own issues with government and laws that are heavily conservative against LGBTQ people and woman as well.
So I guess, my point is, we don't know why they accepted. Even if it's as simple as it's a huge opportunity and they just wanted to... I don't think it changes how they've made it clear that they stand in support of queer people, of women, of love. How they really value their fans and people and want the world to be a better place. They just spoke about all these values at the UN recently as well. So no, I don't think world wide fame changed that for them.
BTS are human. They are not perfect. They will make mistakes and will and can grow from the choices they make. You also, as a fan, do not have to like or agree with everything they do. You aren't even necessarily SUPPOSED to. They aren't God's. They shouldn't be placed on a pedestal of beings who can do no wrong. You will then be disappointed. You are allowed to not like this choice or to think it's a bad one. But I don't think this choice means they are supporting the fucked up violations of human rights that are present there nor do i think this choice is indicative of them not being or no longer being good people. And I think saying that this is them supporting those policies is not fact, as anon stated, but opinion. And you are entitled to your opinion and to your feelings over the matter as well. But these are mine and if you are upset solely about one thing with one place they've traveled to, but not the others, that's something that might be cause for some inner reflection as well.
Let me just cry over this for a moment 😭😭
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Cr twt- babyjgotjams
some things jungkook taught us: his life hacks (insp) for bwinkook ♡
This man is so beautiful, simple, sophisticated. Ethereal. I love seeing this side of Joon, his Instagram account have been a blessing to me as a fan because I feel like I know a little more about him.
Namjoon since he immersed himself in the art world seems like a work of art himself, not necessarily because of the beauty but because of the way he makes you think, how you can look at him for hours and find 1000 meanings or interpretations. How it makes you say over and over again that it doesn't seem real. That he doesn’t seem real.
I love seeing this Namjoon. Free, complicatedly uncomplicated.
PJM1 SUPREMACY
Jimin + Hudson Mohawke 😭. The fact that Jimin keeps linking up with these heavy hitters, you can’t tell me PJM1 isn’t going to be revolutionary.
I expect everyone to be hitting the street spreading the word about Jimin The Enigma
Here are few songs Hudson produced 🥹
And here are some songs Tommy Brown produced
He’s coming through with the R&B sound. I love Jimin, I’m so fucking excited, I can’t wait until the world see’s all that he is capable of!!!
Well said!
Why do they keep asking about the same two things over and over, it's tiring -ㅅ-
You are slowly slowly turning again like other jkkrs here. You are well reasonable some weeks ago. But now my question to you is...do you feel it's strange or not that jk hanging out alone or with other people on the same day jimin came back after 2 weeks and after that too he seen for lunch alone? If they are actually a couple...don't you think any couple surely spend their time together if one partner comes back after so many days? Isn't it weird? From past year... there just so many things which continuously indicating atleast a gap in their relationship. It seems like now normal friendship and nothing beyond that. Jimin was the last one to know about floods too...you can't compare a romantic long term healthy love relationship to some normal friendship by saying his friends didn't tell him either. I admire u more seriously when u talk about facts some weeks ago but now u again seems like really trying to like... forcing urself to believe in jikook romantically. You are talking about negative points too about them openly before...and i admired u for that but now u seems changed. But still....ur thoughts on my question above???
Dear Slowly Turning,
Exchanges like this are getting exhausting because I consistently say the same things over and over, and folks keep dismissing my points because it’s not what they want to hear.
If it seems like I’m slowly becoming like other Jikook fans, it’s because I’m slowly growing from a baby Army into a more seasoned Jikooker. And when older Army tell me it takes time to know where Jikook are at with each other, I’m starting to see they have a good point.
You say that Jungkook didn’t speak to Jimin while he was in Los Angeles. How do you know?
How do you know they never communicated?
Because Jimin didn’t know how severe the weather was in Seoul? He was 16 hours behind, totally focused on his work. NO ONE told Park Jimin about the flooding, not the staff with him in LA, not his collaborators in LA, not his family in Busan, nor his company in Seoul, not his news apps, and apparently not his members. Either no one spoke to him, OR he just didn’t check his phone for a while because he had his head down, trying to make a fantastic solo album. He was ONE DAY behind knowing about the extent of the flooding. That’s not evidence that he and Jungkook are not romantic. That's evidence he was preoccupied.
How do you KNOW in all that time, he and JK didn’t text or chat about other things even once?
Then you say JK went to lunch on the day Jimin arrived home, so they didn’t see each other. How do you know?
How do you know they didn’t see each other?
How do you know JK’s autograph was posted on the very same day he went to the restaurant? (Or that the photo with the fan in the street was posted in real time? Sometimes folks hold that stuff back to avoid them getting swarmed.) How do you know JK didn’t see Jimin before or after these things happened? How do you know they didn’t make plans to hang out several days later, when Jimin was no longer exhausted or could be sure he didn’t bring back COVID again?
And let’s imagine they DIDN'T talk much or immediately hang out—why does that negate what seems like years of a loving relationship? They are busy; they are allowed to do things on their own without it meaning they don't love one another.
How can you say you KNOW there’s a gap between them, when you aren’t privy to all the details of their days?
Look, it’s not unreasonable to say: “I haven’t seen any evidence of Jimin and Jungkook hanging out 1:1 in their personal time for a while now, so I conclude that they MIGHT NOT BE as close as before and probably aren’t dating.”
That is not unreasonable, because that is based on the data you have right now. It is your HYPOTHESIS.
But the data you have right now is of such a limited sample size, I really have to wonder if it’s enough to draw any valid CONCLUSIONS.
I haven’t seen photos of the inside of Jimin’s home, nor of him hanging out with non-famous friends, nor of him talking to his family, nor of him preparing for the Busan expo concert.
It’s reasonable to assume that Jimin likely has a home, and sees friends, and checks in with his family, and is working on upcoming performances—but he hasn’t spoken about it and I’ve seen no photos or videos about any of that.
It would be premature for me to say that because I haven’t seen it, it doesn’t exist.
To give some examples, I had no clue Jimin was working on English lessons until he said it in the walnut Vlive. I didn’t know that Jimin was dealing with his insurance premiums issue for months. I had no idea he commissioned a billboard sign for Sungwoon’s birthday and then showed up at his house and dragged the poor guy to go see it until Sungwoon told us. I never would have known Jikook went out on White Day if fan photos hadn’t leaked. I didn’t know Jungkook and Jimin hung out after quarantine during the Grammys until Jungkook said on his Instagram “Have I seen Jiminie? OF COURSE! I ran to his room. 'JUNGKOOK-AH!'” *mimicking embracing* I hadn’t the smallest notion that Jimin recently had his wisdom teeth out until he mentioned it in his Vlog. I didn't know if JK liked the song With You for months until he sang it on HIS Vlog.
Jimin and Jungkook don’t post selcas together (though sometimes they are in the background of each other’s concert-related photos) and they don’t talk about every single time they hang out. Because despite what the cult is desperate to believe, their relationship is not just for the cameras. Sometimes we find out about ice skating and escape rooms and shopping and traveling with friends and mom’s kimchi and Bam sleeping in Jimin’s elbow and watching Marvel movies or anime or K-dramas together… long, long after it took place.
Jimin is playing it way close to the vest these days—far more than he did prior to the pandemic, that’s for sure. It’s not reaching to say we are getting carefully curated content when it comes to Park Jimin.
Listen, if my registered mail were tampered with not once but FOUR times… and photos of that mail with my exact home address and government-issued ID number were posted online so I could get stalked… and my home was “seized” by the government… and news of this “shame” was carefully held back to hit the press on the SAME DAY my first OST dropped… I’d look at all that sabotage, likely from an inside source, and I’d think twice about my closeted homosexual relationship in a conservative country that was debating the terms of my mandatory military service where gay sex acts can land me in prison… and at the very least, I’d cool it on the PDA. I’d share a lot less of myself and my lover.
If it were me, personally? I might go so far as to say, “I love you with all my heart, Jungkook, but until we are out of the military and done with our idol careers, I’m not dating you or anyone. The potential for blackmail and harassment is just too high. Let’s just be good friends.”
And making that call would be absolutely tragic, but not irresponsible or out of the blue. So yeah, it’s possible they are just friends now. Absolutely possible.
Do I think Jimin and Jungkook are dating? I genuinely do not know. I HOPE so. But hoping is not knowing.
We’re SEEING less touching, less compliments, less staring, less evidence of hanging out one-on-one since Vegas. (I would argue that we might be being shown less by design because Jimin’s “scandal” broke after Vegas.) So no one in good faith can say they are 100% sure they are together right at this moment.
But we also aren’t seeing any anger, awkwardness, stiltedness, sulkiness, disdain, or dismissal between then, nor tension among the group with regard to them. So we can’t say it’s likely they broke up, either.
My stance is “Let’s wait and see some more.” I need more content; I need to see the vibes consistently over time. (I reserve the right to change my stance at any time with new evidence.)
It’s okay if my stance is not your stance. If you’re in a rush to pronounce the Jikook ship is sunk, I’m not out to convert you to my way of thinking. You don’t need to walk by faith instead of sight; it would be unfair to ask that of you. I will still be civil with you, so long as you’re respectful of all members and other fans.
In fact, I appreciate perspectives that are very different from mine, because it helps me refine my own way of thinking by challenging any biases I might have. So long as the tone is respectful, we can talk about anything.
But please hear me when I tell you honestly where my head is at:
What I sense now between Jimin and Jungkook is affection, warmth, comfort, familiarity. I am not seeing much of boyfriend vibes, sexual attraction, pining, or deep intimate knowledge of each other’s day to day. I’m not seeing it, maybe because I need a bigger sample size. Sometimes we get evidence months or years later, and not directly from them, either.
There were people who were convinced Jikook broke up in 2020, only to find a bunch of cute moments in Memories a year later. As older Army keep reminding me: IT TAKES TIME TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE.
So please stop pressuring me to “see the light.” I really don’t care if you respect my opinions or admire my blog—I’m not out to please you, or anyone (even myself). I promise to always give an honest account of my fan experience and to discuss my ideas in good faith. But what impresses other people doesn’t factor into my choices one whit.
In the end, it’s Jimin and Jungkook's relationship. They have a right to guard it or flaunt it however they like. I have always been in love with their love, but it’s not my place to make demands on them to act a certain way just for my enjoyment or reassurance.
I hope Jimin and Jungkook are together—and if they are not, I hope they are at least happy and fulfilled creatively. I will always support them and all of BTS no matter what.
Now, this has to be the last time we go 'round about this. If you keep insisting that the flood or eating out separately means Jikook can’t be together, I’ll just delete your asks and block you. I hate to do that, but this cyclical argument is not productive.
In fact, it’s getting toxic. It’s almost like you’ve got a solo or Taekooker agenda or something. I’m not sure why you’re so dogged about the idea that Jikook just can’t be together.
So, from here on out, I won’t be typing up three pages of refuting perspective.
If you don’t believe in Jikook, that’s 100% fine by me. It truly, truly is fine by me. I really have nothing to prove, here.
But I’m reserving judgement, and you’re just going to have to make peace with that. I promise to let you know if I ever feel like I have enough data to make a call either way.
Meanwhile, go in peace and have this cute compilation of Jikookery to take with you:
Extremely tired but trying to kindly be yours,
Roo
okay but did bts say they are gay?? no. normalise being straight. you talk about being gay. no one said i was faints it. i’m against you acting like they are gay when they have not said so. don’t presume their sexuality. they could be gay but that doesn’t eliminate the fact that they also could be straight. girls are always kissing their friends and they are straight and ppl say ‘it’s just a little bit of fun’ but ‘oh look this male is being touchy with his male friend, i guess he is gay then’. the double standards are crazy. stop acting like you know them as well. acting like you personally know they are gay is toxic behaviour. in korea, they are more touchy. males are more comfortable with their male friends compared to the western society. they can hug, slap each other’s butts whatever, it means they are comfortable with each other. it doesn’t mean that they are showcasing what they do to each other behind the scenes. just because your views are different doesn’t mean your views are the same as theirs. it’s about societal construct. your society is different to theirs. have you slapped your female friend’s ass before? or kissed each other? does that make you gay? it’s all about intention. we don’t know them. we don’t know their intentions. that is why i say normalise platonic touch. they haven’t told us they are gay or that they are dating (whether it is each other or someone else) so it is safer to assume they are friends. people like you are the reason straight people are always questioned. you can be straight and support gay rights. but why can gay people never support straight ppl? always making everything about sexuality - it’s ridiculous. no one cares as much as they do except for the ppl they should be targeting. people like you probably go up to straight people and tell them that they cannot be 100% straight because you want your beliefs to be shelved in everyone’s lives. just stop. everyone should be comfortable in their sexuality without hurting one another. but clearly because of toxic fans, the boys can’t do that.
GIRLS ARE ALWAYS KISSING THEIR FRIENDS AND THEY ARE STRAIGHT- this is good my girlfriend needs to hear this🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This you?
I'm starting to wonder what you think gay is🤣🤣🤣🤣
You've been so inundated with performative bisexuality and queer baiting for the male gaze for years you are actually desensitized to gayness I see.
If same sex kissing is straight, then I'm the straightest person on earth and James Charles is straight too. Lil Nas X you did. You finally straight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And people wonder why merely holding hands in public or coming out is such a big deal to some of us.
You sound very ignorant to me.
I will tell you as a queer woman- no. I don't find kissing my female friends platonic at all. THE ACTUAL FUCK!
My girlfriend certainly don't find that platonic either💀 But sure, I'll kiss a straight man for laughs and gaslight him afterwards telling him it's just a friendly platonic kiss cos I'm gay😚
You sound stupid to me. Straight men keep arguing they can't be friends with women and yet you expect gay people to find nothing wrong with kissing each other and touching each other's bum.
Gay intimacy is a social construct? sure. Gay is all an illusion. It's not real. It's all in our heads sure Freud.
Have I slapped my female friend's bum before? Or kissed a girl??? Did that make me gay?
Geez, I dunno🥴
But the thought of it does make my pussy wet tho. In a straight way of course😏
Can't be gay. This pussy straight as an arrow🤣
"That is why I say normalize platonic touch."
I know you think you helping, you not sis.
Just really think deep about what you are saying for as long as possible- but go do it on your own blog in your own space somewhere else just not here.
There is a clear distinction between heterosexual relationships and homosexual relationships and the fact straight people like yourself think that line is blurred is telling of just how much gay culture is appropriated and normalized as part of heterosexual behaviors especially in mainstream media cos that shit don't fly in real life.
The fact you think gay behaviors corrupt straight relationships or the perception of straight relationships is telling of everything that is wrong with straight men and straight women.
Don't conflate online culture with real life culture because those two are in conflict with each other. The performances people put up online in the media for commercial gains does not reflect their values or the complexities of the social structures they live within.
They are so any celebrities who come online and do gay shit and pretend they are down with the gays but go home and live a very homophobic life- you know who I'm talking about. No. Normal straight girls in real life are not walking around kissing eachother. They only do that when the cameras are rolling and for clicks. So about you not normalize that behavior with rhetorics like the ones you spew in here unintelligently and unwelcomed.
It's not our fault that straight men compartmentalize their feelings and can feel emotionally attracted to other men but reserve their sexual attraction only for women, treating women as sexual objects they cannot befriend while reserving their love and admiration and respect only for their male counterparts under the disguise of bromance and friendship. The jig is up. Pack it up.
That sort of compartmentalization is what a real construct is. All men are gay in that regard and straight is the societal construct. Deal.
Love is love. It's just measured by degrees and intensity but it's the SAME LOVE. I can have platonic feelings for a friend and still fuck her if I'm horny. I don't even need to be attracted physically to her. You know friends with benefit exist in our vocabulary for a reason right?
Platonic love is just romantic love in a seed form. It may never mature into blossoming romance but the love is the same.
And gay people can have platonic feelings as well. Gay people can have platonic friendships too. So calling your bias's relationship to another man as platonic is not a conclusive statement on his sexuality. Where did you get this idea that platonic means straight???? Don't answer that.
That's like saying gay people cannot have degrees of love and emotional attraction and attachments. And the only love we feel is sexual love. Can you at least drop the ignorance? Your homophobia here is enough.
And what makes you think your interpretation and description of someone's relationship as platonic overrides my interpretation and description of their relationship as romantic?? What makes your opinion superior to mine? We are both opining aren't we?
Your opinion is not more valid than my opinion. just because my opinion makes you uncomfortable don't mean it's wrong or that I am not entitled to it. You are so full of yourself.
We don't know them, you are right. If they are straight there's nothing wrong with that- IF THEY ARE GAY THEY IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT EITHER.
STOP ASSUMING THEY ARE STRAIGHT. ASSUMING THEY ARE STRAIGHT IS EQUALLY ASSUMING THEIR SEXUALITY DUMBASS.
Oh- You mean because of toxic fans they can't queer bait in peace? 🤔
GOOD. WE GON PUT OUR FOOT ON THEIR NECKS TILL THEY STOP GAY FISHING IF THEY ARE NOT GAY. IF YOU ARE NOT GAY DON'T ACT GAY. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
I think you are all over the place and don't know what you are about with this one- if you hate shippers, you do know not everyone who ships them ships them romantically right? And you do know we shipping them romantically NOT because of shit like this-
And I love how actual gay people within their culture and industry have said time and time again they are attacked for holding hands down the street, kissing or displaying the least public affection on a daily but somehow bimbos like you still want to call this homoeroticism "their culture" as if gay people don't exist in South Korea. Don't you ever get tired of acting the fool?
And you are gonna sit here and tell me straight men are uncomfortable with being shipped while pointing out simultaneously, in the same breath how skinship is a normal part of Korean culture. Cool.
Know what else is a normal part of korean kpop culture? SHIPPING. SHIPPING IS A NORMAL PART OF KPOP. THEY INVENTED THE DAMN THING SO LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE AND LET US SHIP OUT SHIP IN PEACE.
THEY CAN'T BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH US SHIPPING THEM IF THEY THEMSELVES CURATE, PROMOTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THEIR OWN SHIP AND SHIPPING CULTURE ESPECIALLY FOR COMMERCIAL GAINS. FREE US.
If you are worried we can't tell platonic relationships, skinship culture etc from romantic relationships rest assured we can. Drop the sanctimonious bull crap.It's why we ship all ships but only support one. You can rest now.
THAT SAID, SUPPORT JIKOOK. THEY REAL🤭
GOLDY
Hello there! This has been on my mind for a while. I may be regurgitating something that has been said a thousand times before:
I personally think the reason why Jimin and Jungkook get along so well is because they 100 % match in energy when it comes to their drive and their emotional needs.
I'm writing this more from JK's perspective (since Jimin is quite difficult for me to read. Regardless of this, they are each others equals). Please note: this is just my personal opinion.
Drive:
JK is very versatile when it comes to the talents he has. He may be an introvert, but I see him more as an adventurous introvert. The man needs a challenge. He needs to push himself. But he also said that he can loose interest and focus very easily.
And here comes larger than life Park Jimin: Being god-tier level talented in so many areas and also being determined and unwavering in whatever he pursues.
Not only is he able to match JK's drive and energy on an equal level, he also inspires him and pushes him to strive for more. He is his catalyst.
I think there are not many people out there able to match Jungkooks energy and range. But Jimin is definitely one of them.
Emotional needs:
On the other hand, JK is a very sensitive, soft and sometimes anxious person (as you once wrote in this post: https://stormblessed95.tumblr.com/post/652847855476801536/do-you-really-think-jk-is-one-of-the-most-tactile).
He is incredibly tactile, loves receiving soothing touches and comforting words. He is also an incredibly perceptive person and has is own unique way of interpreting and interacting with his surroundings. He is a special snowflake and I mean it in the most positive way possible. I think what he needs is someone with high emotional intelligence, that can easily adapt to whatever goes on in that beautiful mind of his.
And guess who has god-tier level abilities when it comes to emotional intelligence and support – Park Jimin.
It always amazes me how well they match on so many levels. This might also be what they mean when they say „I am you, you are me“.
Tl;dr: Whatever JK's looking for – a challenge, an adventure or loving comfort – Jimin can fullfill all those needs.
I think they said it best themselves!
"We click" "I understand him" "I know he he feels" "you are me, I am you."
Thanks for sharing your own personal opinions!
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#just_how_fast_the_night_changes 🐰
Jikook: Stay Close To Me
Am I mostly just making this post to share these edit compilations? Yes. Yes I am 😂 Jimin wanting to make sure JK knows he wants him to stay next to him. And JK just wanting Jimin close. They really are like magnets and stuck like glue at times aren't they?
And then just some more of jikook being as close as possible to each other as they can be
The way this could honestly just be the never ending thread 😭😍🥰 they are so cute!