Every Day TG Crying Because They Want Jaehaera To Live In The Series And Be The Mother Of Aegon III's

every day TG crying because they want Jaehaera to live in the series and be the mother of Aegon III's children, they don't even care about the girl they just want to be able to say that their green lineage continues in some way, they can't accept that TG lost in the end of the day and they want to shove this girl as if she had any relevance, jaehaera purpose was died, the end! I have nothing against her but these stans make me want ryan to kill the girl soon so i don't have to deal with this bullshit 😅

Jaehaera doesn't actually matter to TG stans except when they use her to try to rob TB of their victory. They don't consider that her mental health would suffer drastically if she had been forced to live as Aegon's wife. Yeah, it's tragic what happened to her, but that's kind of the point. She suffers because of her parents' and grandparents' awful choices. But to acknowledge that would mean admitting their favs are shitty people.

Jaehaera doesn't deserve to die, but her death helps show how the greens' actions negatively impacted the lives of Westerosi girls and women. But if course, if TG stans refuse to acknowledge the wrongs TG has done. Jaehaera was doomed from the moment Aegon chose to usurp Rhaenyra (no he wasn't forced, he made a choice), she might have been even from birth, considering Aegon and Helaena were forced to marry purely to support his claim.

Aside from the themes and narrative, Jaehaera herself would not have been happy as queen. She's traumatized, has mental disabilities, and would have a really shitty marriage. If she could live, why would she want to live in a loveless (at best) marriage while the kingdom is in mass turmoil.

Anyone who wants Jaehaera to survive and be married to Aegon III doesn't understand the story or care about her as a character. Jaehaera was doomed by her family from the start, if TG stans want someone to blame for her ending, they should look at their favs.

ASOIAF fandom: uwu such tragedy with these Baratheon brothers uwu sad sad Robert who didn't get his pixie girl, "girl coded" Stannis the Mannis, gay icon Renly uwu

Team Black looking down at a domestic abuser and canon Predator Robert, a hypocritical misogynistic Stannis blabbing about rapist Aegon II's "rights", and some guy who tried to whore out a 14 yo to a known domestic abuser and predator for gain Renly, suddenly all placing their male "rights" on a female relative low on the inheritance line after their ancestor went "I just hate women" when a woman was actually heir, pulling some strings from the other side:

TG Mentality is

"Aegon is a rapist and a drunk."

"But Rhaenyra has bastards!"

"Alicent is manipulative and mean."

"But Rhaenyras has bastards!"

"Aemond is a kinslayer."

"B U T R H A E N Y R A H A S-"

It really shows TG stans' true motivations and issues with Rhaenyra. The fact that she's a woman who has chosen to fight for her rights, refuses to be a passive victim, and exercises sexual autonomy just really rubs them the wrong way. They believe that in order to be a "true woman" a character must suffer silently and prettily and work only to further the men in her life. Rhaenyra refuses to do this, so they hate her.

The Velaryon boys are just the most glaring example of how Rhaenyra has taken control of her body in spite of her circumstances. They claim she's usurping Baela and Rhaena because they can't handle that Corlys and the rest of the reapm really don't give a shit about Rhaenyra's sex life. They want to enforce the puritanical and patriarchal beliefs of the Faith on Rhaenyra and her family, and get pissed off that she isn't punished more for rebelling against that.

They obsess over the Velaryon boys because it's the only thing that could actually be condemnable by the realm other than her gender. It has nothing to do with the morality of having illegitimate children, it's about Rhaenyra being a non-conforming woman they want to see be punished.

At least, Alicent (both in HOTD and F&B) isn’t a canonically anti-Black character unlike Rhaenyra, but sure keep trying to whitewash a privileged white woman who tries to commit a racially motivated hate crime against a Black girl. But hey, nobody’s perfect. Girl power!

All right. Let us repeat then :

"I think there are three options on this, either there was indeed racial bias in Rhaenyra (and even that doesn't take away from all the tragedy she suffered and that Team Blacks was better than Team Blacks Greens). Either she said it. from a point of view completely biased by jealousy mixed with her psychosis having developed in the meantime. Although I don't like to compare Rhaenyra to Cersei, I have to say that the Rhaenyra's dialogue on Nettles is very similar to that of Cersei on Brienne which... therefore has nothing to do with racism. Or perhaps Eustace, a supporter of the Greens, simply invented or distorted what she said. We can't really be sure."

So, there's no exact canon in there. Rhaenyra may have racial prejudices due to the context in which she evolved / grew up, or her dialogue about Nettles has everything to do with jealousy and psychoticism, or finally Eustace lied or transformed what she said. Once again, there is no certainty in this. Especially since outside of this scene, there has never been any insinuation as to any particular intolerance coming from Rhaenyra.

Next... wow an Alicent defender. Am I supposed to take you seriously ? The canonically purist blood woman, without any possible debate on the subject, unlike Rhaenyra for Nettles, would surely not have problems with racism, of course... All this is very realistic to think about. Girl power ! Long live Queen Alicent Hightower ! (What Joke...)

No, but how am I supposed to take seriously someone who was trying to defend Alicent while defaming Rhaenyra ? Alicent is scum, pure and simple. There is no nuance about her. And we're not even going to talk about the entire Greens team, because you'll be humiliated.

Also... Since you antis loved mixing the book and the series... Forget a racist Rhaenyra in the series. The Velaryons are black, and Rhaenyra has shown no racism towards them.

I don't know what your problem is with believing that we love Rhaenyra, Daemon and the Blacks team because they would be angels. Most of them are gray characters... So based on having a bad and / or ambiguous appearance. So it will always bug me when I see people complaining that gray characters are capable of bad things and worse trying to make them out to be pure villains because of it. Like there is a huge paradox that must be in your head.

It is little discussed how alicent decided to make helaena's life miserable in a marriage with someone she doesn't love and is abusive, she condemned her daughter to have the same abusive marriage she had because she must believe that this is her daughter's duty as well as she believes it was hers, she put aegon's need first and fuck what helaena could want (the need to marry her sister to give more strength to HIS claim) the sentence that rhaenys says to her does make sense, Alicent is always at the service of men and TG stans don't seem to understand that

Helaena is the perfect example of Alicent's arc from abused to abuser. She was a victim of her father, who forced her to marry Viserys, a man she didn't love and had a loveless marriage with. And over a decade later, Alicent forced her thirteen year old daughter to marry her older brother, a man who has a history of bullying and mocking both Helaena and Aemond.

Alicent stans and the show itself claiming Alicent did everything to protect her children are no longer applicable by the the time the time skip happens. From episode 6 on, Alicent is actively harming and endangering her children.

She teaches them to view Rhaenyra's children as subhuman, causing them to constantly spew out claims that Viserys has declared treason, thus endangering their lives. She allows Aegon's bullying of Aemond to continue, provided it's behind closed doors, which is arguably more dangerous, as there would be no one to step in if Aegon went to far. She forces Helaena to marry Aegon, who hates her, and doesn't even wait until Helaena is an adult by Westerosi standards (which Alicent herself was).

After the second major time skip, Alicent is enabling Aegon's raping of servant girls, as well as that of Helaena. She uses Aemond as her sole emotional support, which is a type of emotional abuse. She barely treats Helaena as a real person, viewing her only as a "poor thing", ignoring everything she says as well as the fact that Alicent herself is responsible for Helaena's misery.

Alicent has chosen to perpetuate and fight for the system that hurt her. This makes her the antagonist, not just to Rhaenyra, but Helaena as well. Alicent is responsible for Helaena's suffering, both in season one and season two. She treated her as barely a real person, ignored her opinions and feelings, forced her into an abusive marriage with her brother, and started the war that caused the deaths of Helaena and her children. Exactly like you said, Helaena's wants and needs are constantly shoved aside and ignored by Alicent herself in order to better Aegon's claim and her own ambitions.