So... I Understand Those Who Try To Say That The Real Alyssa Targaryen Was Not Tainted, Because What

So... I understand those who try to say that the real Alyssa Targaryen was not tainted, because what we saw in 2x05 was not the real Alyssa, that it is just Alys raping Daemon's mind with horrible visions / dreams.

Certainly.

But that doesn't change that literally the first kind of representation between guile that Alyssa Targaryen will have had on the screen is through an incestuous sex scene with her son provoked by a witch who therefore violates the spirit of Daemon.

How twisted is this approach ? What forced the writers to actually write this scene ?

Daemon's madness caused by Harrenhal and Alys does not have to manifest in this way. Nothing obliges him.

Once again it's just a trashy scene intended to gratuitously shock the viewer and nothing more.

Because in fact this scene does not bring anything concrete to Daemon's character.

The only real consequence of this scene is for the fandom which will use it to further criticize the Targaryens and their practice of incest, even if once again everyone in Westeros practices incest.

To return to the main subject, it is truly degrading and misogynistic to have invoked the image of Alyssa Targaryen on screen for the first time in this way. As a pure sexual object.

This is once again atrocious from a writing standpoint.

That this is not the real Alyssa Targaryen and a pure creation of Alys does not change anything in the unconscious collective impact that this scene will have on the viewer. The fact that the first sort of image they will have received of this female character is this scene. For those who don't know the Alyssa Targaryen book version this will be what this scene shows for those who only watch GOT and HOTD.

There is nothing in the writing that justifies the need for this type of scene.

I proclaim it loud and clear, it’s a pure shame. No more no less.

Fuck these writers.

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Mirri was too much of a coward to take revenge while Drogo's bridal slave protected her and the other women. So she waited until Drogo was dying to misdirect her rage at Drogo's bridal slave and her unborn child. Of course Dany executed her. The fact people see it any differently from Blood and Cheese or the show!Red Wedding where Talisa is attacked after the Northmen have ravaged the Riverlands is just absolute hypocrisy.

Exactly, the hypocrisy of Dany antis is always so obvious lmao. The double standard applied to her and most other Targaryens is absolutely ridiculous.

What was the point of Daemon/Alyssa exactly? To show how disgusting HotD is? Not even Dumb and Dumber would write a parent/child scene and they wrote a lot of fucked up stuff.

It's simply there to make Daemon look awful and to drag out this show unnecessarily. The writers are spending such a ridiculous amount of time with Daemon fucking around in Harrenhal just so they can get more time without spending time on other important characters. Rhaena, for example, is getting absolutely nothing, even though they're clearly setting her up for Nettles' arc.

So basically the purpose is to be shitty, anon. Some people might try to mask it with pseudo-intellectualism, but that's the truth of it.

The amount of disrespect HOTD decided to show yet another woman is just....wow. Alyssa Targaryen was an absolute badass who had a loving and healthy relationship with her husband and loved her sons. And this fucking show decided to just do that with her in order to further demonize Daemon.

Over and over this show just completely fucks over the complex and amazing women GRRM wrote. Alyssa being turned into a sexual object to make Daemon appear in a certain light is so disgusting, even aside from the Oedipus complex thing. It's misogynistic and fucking revolting. Even in death the women of HOTD can't escape.

Fuck Ryan Condal and fuck Sarah Hess

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