Hazbin Hotel Opinion Question: Do You Think Lute Being Captured At The End Of Episode 8 Instead Of Retreating

Hazbin Hotel opinion question: do you think Lute being captured at the end of episode 8 instead of retreating would be an interesting AU?

I ABSOLUTELY DO.

It hadn't even crossed my mind but wowww that opens up so much.

She'd obviously be super pissy about it and, I reckon she'd make some decent escape attempts (if its lucifer's magic holding her back though there's no chance).

The metaphorical removal of her wings by capturing her plays so nicely into her paralleling Vaggie. I reckon after she calms down a bit Charlie would probably pity her enough to try and help her, like with Vaggie.

From there you could branch off into Lute tricking Charlie in order to escape. Lute tricking Charlie but staying in hell, biding her time to betray them during an extermination or Lute playing an even longer game.

Lute could also genuinely become a better person (I think that would take even more effort than making Adam a good person but hey, anythings possible) then get sent back up to heaven not even by her own will but just because she's been 'redeemed'. I say that lightly because I'm taking it by being captured you mean there's no point at which she actually falls, but Lute isn't exactly the poster child of Heaven so despite not falling, there's still room to improve.

Lute could also opt to ignore Charlie/ try to antagonise from inside whatever cell she's in. There could be a constant theme of Charlie being nothing but kind and and Lute refusing to give in. (What's that? The sin of Pride?)

You could even have Lute being completely antagonistic to Charlie and Vaggie but its one of the sinners that help her, she's not used to being put in her place so somebody that does that and responds to her firmly? (From here I'd probably make that Angel given her insulting rant about him in heaven, but it could reasonably be others).

I'm sure there's a million other ways this could be handled but to me the most important thing to get down would be the character dynamics. Vaggie and Lute clearly have a rocky past even before she tore her wings off, but having Vaggie feel sorry for Lute rather than be angry could show how she's grown as a person ect. Charlie could end up in conflict with herself between wanting to help and wanting justice (a solid way to explore her morals). I'm sure Alastor would be having the time of his life watching an angel be so pathetic.

Lucifer is a whole other bag but whatever it'd be would certainly have to play into both his heaven based trauma and his desire to protect.

Though, all of this assumes she's captured by the hotel crew and not some other ill meaning overlords, I mean, imagine how much you could sell an Angel for. (With that though I reckon unless it was someone quite high up the power ladder that she'd just escape and kill them.)

Ty for the ask!!!! This got rambly but in short, yeah an AU like that has so many possibilities that I dont think you could go wrong. I'd enjoy reading any one of the hypotheticals I've mentioned, or others since I've certainly not covered everything. =)

I tried so hard to stay serious. Throwing myself into analysis and lore dives but no. The silly consumes all.

I can't stop thinking about the nonsense ass crackship that is radioapple (not a fan of things that ignore it entirely but ace/aro are both spectrums, I enjoy it as a dynamic not a serious "I want it to be cannon")

Logically the demon Adam theory is not my fav but the DESIGNS??!?!?

I like Rosie so much I've fallen into a pit of listening to jazz music. (The diagram of my music taste continues to expand, I have been left wondering how Alastor would react to 80s metal)

Tried to analyse stayed gone/ Vox in ep 8, got some good points but the main one being Vox has a crush on Alastor in the same way that teenagers who pretend to not like bands because they're "too mainstream" actually have a massive crush on one of the members. I'll produce a more coherent take when I'm sane.

And to top it all off, the owl bastard has infected my life once more, this time with Italian as I try to cope with how beautiful the Italian dub of loser baby is.

THERES A NEW GREEN DAY ALBUM?? AND NOBODY TOLD ME???? I HAD TO FIND OUT THROUGH SPOTIFY NOTIFICATIONS.

I mean, this is what I get for never paying attention to band lore to the point where i know the names of maybe 3 frontmen? BUT STILL :<.

Hey, in this photo.

The blank faces? Very simple cartoony chalk style? Yeah well having no nose and a horizontally longer face than the others makes Angel look like a ditto.

Also i cant decide if the =) rather than the precise ditto :) makes him look more or less haunted by the sins of man.

Spoilers for Hazbin Finale under cut (Yes it's The Big One)

The fact that Viv revealed that somebody main was going to die in S1 seemed odd to me, because surely you'd want it to be a big moment? A surprise?

But no, this was clearly to make the plot twist hit harder. A lot of what I saw was ppl saying Pentious would die (and a lot of people sobbing about it) and when he did, or rather, seemed to, it was so blunt and shocking. There was a short dramatic moment but nothing over the top and then he was just, gone.

My personal hope was that the death would be Adam to round off season 1 and bring Lute into the light a bit more (need her to sing again, desperately). So in that moment I was wondering how they were going to deal with Adam. Usually I'm quite good at predicting this kind of thing so I was surprised but figured they'd go the mercy route. Lute being spared by Vaggie solidified this idea in my head so when NIFFTY STABBED HIM I was actually, legitimately shocked. I might not have been if it wasn't revealed that one main character would die in season 1 (I took it to mean ONLY 1, because why else would you specify).

This then of course left me wondering about Pentious. Maybe he was just banished or something? But HOLY SHIT when I saw him in heaven it made SO much sense.

Of course, you can argue he wasn't fully redeemed but then I remembered Vaggie getting her wings back. It happened during her fight with Carmine when she was telling her she needed to stop fighting with hate and fight with love. Self sacrifice seems to be a major point in what heaven considers redemption worthy, which is why despite his flaws Pentious trying to put everything on the line for those he cared about is what sent him up.

Another point to prove this is the fact that Sera doesn't fall for being deceitful to heaven/ Emily or condoning murder because she's doing it for her people, who she loves.

The bonus of Adam being the one to send him there, then dying in hell where he arguably belonged the whole time is aslo incredible.

But yeah THAT is what you call a good spoiler, one that adds to the experience rather than taking away.

Don't you just love it when *insert relatable character* does something that you wish you could but unfortunately *insert shitty real life thing* gets in your way?

That COULD be you, but not in this lifetime.

(This applies equally to not having enough money to do things because shitty capitalism, and also not being able to customise yourself with cat ears because shitty biology)