I Like A Lot Of What You Said, But One If The Points I Don't Agree With Is How Marinette Perceives Adrien

I like a lot of what you said, but one if the points I don't agree with is how Marinette perceives Adrien as perfect.

I believe she doesn't, like when she said she first assumed he was pretentious and superficial. But I do believe that she thinks very highly of him and when she compares herself to him, she continuously thinks very lowly of herself and only focuses on her flaws.

adrien and marinette are perfect for each other because they're both obsessive weirdos, except that marinette is flustered because she perceives adrien as someone perfect and therefore unattainable, so she's ashamed of how weird she is, while adrien lets his dorky side out as chat noir, but he exaggerates his behaviour because of social awkwardness, so his weirdness turns into a caricature instead.

chat noir telling marinette that he likes hamsters, too, when she admitted to her fantasies and how they stunt her actions in reality, was everything. i'm soft about how adrien is so sweet and non-judgemental that he's the one person who has never laughed at her social ineptitude, has validated her anxious spirals instead of dismissing them as ridiculous, and has patiently listened to her when she messes up her words. the only time he has ever interrupted her was when he thought she was being unfair to herself. goddamn it, luka made fun of her stuttering when they met. in comparison, you can totally tell that chat noir thought marinette's 'i have three suns' confession to be a little ridiculous, but he was nothing but supportive.

the things marinette perceives as her flaws are the things adrien likes about her, or even has in common. he didn't think that her fantasies are stupid. i'm just... glad at how he doesn't dismiss marinette's feelings and ideas and takes them so seriously, when both the show and the fandom haven't done that.

I agree!

I'd like to recommend this thread on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AmeliaSamson7/status/1453883987529719820?t=atSBsHmcN0v7s4ss-mmpWg&s=19

i really have absolutely no thoughts about what's gonna happen in ephemeral the one thought I have is the umbrella scene is just her having deja vu and not her connecting the dots

Okay but what if at the end of the episode we hear Little Kitty on a roof all alone without his lady

But this time instead of Adrien singing it...

We hear it from Marinette...

ephemeral prediction: after seeing marinette get hurt, adrien will fight off his akumatization. since she’s too injured to fight, he’ll have to borrow her miraculous. mister bug puts up a good fight, but shadowmothnoir is just too powerful. adrien realizes that this timeline can’t be saved, and unifies tikki and fluff.

it’s up to bugs bunny to save the day

That's a shame, there seems to be movie that they could take inspiration from though

An English person: E-

Me: Aren’t you from that country that’s planning to build a motorist’s tunnel under Stonehenge? Y’know? The fragile 5000/4000 year old Neolithic World Heritage Site? The place that yearly sees more than 800000 tourists? A site containing ancient human remains? The monument constructed by your ancestors painstakingly rolling 25 ton stone slabs across great distances employing no beasts of burden? Aren’t you guys trying to build a tunnel under that?

It’s interesting how Glaciator 2.0 again showed that there is a big wall between Adrinette at the moment, caused by the fact that Marinette is too caught up in her own crush to really see Adrien for who he is.

Specifically, her reaction to seeing Adrien be sad is more “awesome, I can enact my plan!” than sympathy. And when her plan goes wrong because she picked the wrong gift, she never pauses to notice that Adrien was really happy to get a pottery wheel from her, even if it was unusual.

The frustrating (and fun!) thing is that it was all so close to working. It already did work, back in Gamer, when she gave him her lucky charm! If Marinette hadn’t been so caught up in her fantasy, if she had looked at the actual Adrien and his actual feelings, she could have absolutely made his day here. In fact, she did end up cheering him up immeasurably when he was wearing black and she had stopped with all the schemes and was just herself.

This matches e.g. Malediktator. Marinette was so focused on the fact that Adrien looked hot in the ad to see how it was distressing him. Her crush is in the way of her actually seeing him.

Even though it’s popular, I would not describe that as her putting him on a pedestal. She is not in love with the model and the image (at least not just); she is aware that he’s a real human boy who sometimes feels sad and frustrated. However, she is too much in her own headspace to really see what’s happening with him. And that is, in various shapes and forms, the defining factor in the Adrinette relationship right now.