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Hey Yall, Im Sorry I Know It's Been A Bit Since I Talked About History But I Have A Pressing Question:

hey yall, im sorry i know it's been a bit since i talked about history but i have a pressing question:

are trans people allowed to present opposite of their gender and still be upset when they get misgendered ?

(im asking as a feminine/gnc trans guy that gets very hurt and upset when strangers misgender me)

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students!

im literally crying over this (like in a sad, my-life-is-falling-apart way) because me and my partner can't seem to see eye to eye on this:

he is very driven by logic and i by emotions, which every so often causes a rift or fight because he can't understand why i like something "just because" (in this case it was european high class vs. american high class aesthetics), and i can't defend myself because i don't have a reason, that thing is just nice.

if you could id love to have a larger sample size, so reblog if you feel like it

thank you dears !


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Do u know anything about non-binary genders in non-modern history?

I do actually <: one of my favourite examples is Her Majesty the King, a pharaoh of ancient Egypt who took over after the death of her husband and was incredibly successful as a ruler. She changed her name to the male version and wore male regalia, but still used she/her pronouns. Most modern scholars refer to her as nonbinary or genderqueer. I can't for the life of me remember her real name right now, but if I do later I'll drop it in the comments.

Thank you for such an intelligent and interesting question dearest student /gen <:


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give me more of an excuse to talk <:

Reblog If You Want More Interaction W Your Lovely Followers

reblog if you want more interaction w your lovely followers

In regards to the “wanna be nosy post”, 25, 31 and 44! (:

25. museum date, drive-in movie, or a nice dinner out <:

31. "hey honey, i don't think ill be able to make it, im sorry /:"- sent to my friend about a graduation party

44. up to 98% of civil war surgeries used anesthetic, most commonly chloroform or ether (chloroform was preferred though, because ether is very volatile and flammable).

yay ancient trans people <:

An Ancient Greek Transgender Person

We read this passage in class yesterday and I thought it might interest youse guys. The passage is from Lucian’s Dialogues of the Courtesans 5; it’s a discussion between Clonarium, a young man, and Leaena, a courtesan who had an unusual experience at a drinking party.

Eventually Megilla, being now rather heated, pulled off her wig, which was very realistic and fitted very closely, and revealed the skin of her head which was shaved close, just as on the most energetic of athletes. This sight gave me a shock, but she said, ‘Leaena, have you ever seen such a good-looking young fellow?’ ‘I don’t see one here, Megilla,’ said I. ‘Don’t make a woman out of me,’ said she. ‘My name is Megillus, and I’ve been married to Demonassa here for ever so long; she’s my wife.’ ‘Then, unknown to us, Megillus, you were a man all the time, just as they say Achilles once hid among the girls, and you have everything that a man has, and can play the part of a man to Demonassa?’ ‘I haven’t got what you mean,’ said she, ‘I don’t need it at all. You’ll find I have a much pleasanter method of my own.’ ‘You’re surely not a hermaphrodite,’ said I, ‘equipped both as a man and a woman, as many people are said to be?’; for I still didn’t know, Cleonarium, what it was all about. But she said, ‘No, Leaena, I’m all man.’ ‘Well,’ I said, ‘I’ve heard the Boeotian flute-girl, Ismenodora, repeating tales she’d heard at home, and telling us how someone at Thebes had turned from woman to man, someone who was also an excellent soothsayer, and was, I think, called Tiresias. That didn’t happen to you, did it?’ ‘No, Leaena,’ she said, ‘I was born a woman like the rest of you, but I have the mind and the desires and everything else of a man.’ ‘And do you find these desires enough?’ said I. ‘If you don’t believe me, Leaena,’ said she, ‘just give me a chance, and you’ll find I’m as good as any man; I have a substitute of my own. Only give me a chance, and you’ll see.’

Translation: M. D. Macleod, Loeb, 1961.

So Megilla - who, as a side note, is from Lesbos - was born a woman but identifies as a man, going by Megillus. Still, for some reason, they* disguise themselves as a woman. The whole situation is a bit confusing but the bolded bit is clear: Megilla/Megillus is, in modern terms, transgender.

Lucian’s Dialogues are fictional, but the fact he mentions a trans person speaks for their existence at the time. Remember that whenever people claim trans people are a recent phenomenon!

*I’m using they/them pronouns because it’s unclear exactly how they refer to themselves. Greek conjugated verbs are mostly non-gendered (so what the translation renders as ‘she said’ is actually ‘he/she/they said’), but there is one participle in the feminine (οὐδὲν ἐνδέουσάν με τῶν ἀνδρῶν, I’m as good as any man) despite Megilla/Megillus asking Leaena not to refer to them as a woman. So, unclear.


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