German Vegetarian Here, I Know What Veal Heart Ragout Is, But I Think Its So Funny That These Are Supposed

German vegetarian here, I know what Veal Heart Ragout is, but I think it’s so funny that these are supposed to be the horrors.

Like who made this? Nothing of this is uncommon in a lot of other countries and it’s not even disgusting stuff, it’s just so normal. Like I have seen at least half of it here in Germany just as totally normal things and I don’t even eat any of it!

Since Elliot Page just came out I started to experiece something I call “I am cool with it, but my brain hates change” again.

And it is very annoying. I have no issue with anybody coming out, transitioning, cutting their hair, choosing certain clothes, switching jobs or follwing religions, but my brain take forever to wrap aroung the fact that there is now new information about this person.

It’s like a library where every book is under a certain file and now it has to be moved into a different section and the system has to be updated that it is now there. And once all of that is done you don’t even notice anymore that it used to be somewhere else. And then one day another book has to be moved and it’s starting again. It was the same when a school friend of mine cut her hair short, it was the same when I found out that one of my coworkers told me he felt god and it was the same when a former friend of mine had his coming out to me. Everbody thinks I react weird or bad, when i am just still in processing mode. This is also why I am not great in fast situations in general. Give me a couple days time and I will get through anything that comes up with a solution and 5 backup solutions if the first one doesn’t work out but ask me for something right now and you will get nothing out of me.

Anybody else experience this “I am cool with it, but my brain hates change” feeling that information feels like it takes to long to process that it does for other people that can just say cool and move on instead of replaying the information in their head for a couple days until it is filed up/ changed to true/ clicked in?

But anyways good for Elliot Page, congrats, I will process this information in about a week because I am sick, so everything takes even longer than usual.

Honestly if I ever had a goal on this page it was getting reblooged by one of my favourite authors on our favourite character.

I love Theon being included in fanarts and storys with the Stark family as much an anybody. Just the way Robb would have wanted it.

But the next person that says that the show did Theon and Ned’s relationship better by saying that Ned was like a father to Theon is going to hear from me.

He was a HOSTAGE!

You can call him his ward all you want. BookTheon said himself that Ned was not a father to him, the few times he acted fatherly towards him, Theon thought of it as worse, because they both (unlike the rest of the Stark family, minus Cat it seems) had a really good understanding of what Theons position in Winterfell meant.

I like Ned but he was never Theon’s father. And as much as a dick Balon was he was Theon’s father. He neglected him and did not give a fuck and saw him as nothing but a dissapointment (like every other familymember that isn’t Asha) but for Theon he was his father.

And Ned treated Theon like you are supposed to treat a highborn hostage. Maybe he let Robb spend too much friend time with Theon, but that’s about it. Everything else (education, good food, rich clothing) is normal hostage treatment we see in Sansa and Cersei just as much.

Don’t get me wrong, Ned is no Cersei, he is never shown to think that Theon owns him anything (even if they didn’t have scenes together, I don’t think Ned is that delusional), whereas Cersei thinks Sansa should be greatful.

But noone sais Sansa sees Cersei as her mother or that she should be greatful for the Lannisters treatment, but Theon should be? Just because the Starks are generally better people than Cersei and Joffrey? No.

Theon was as much a hostage as Sansa was, just for much longer and it did some psychological damage to him that can’t be undone.

Is this Ned’s fault? Also no. Ned didn’t take Theon hostage because he wanted to, it was an outcome from a war Theon was not responsible in any way of. Theon is innocent of his situation as a hostage to the Starks.

And Ned treats him as a highborn hostage. He raises him, feeds him, trains him and would most likely execute him if neccessairy. Would he like it -definitly no, but Ned killed innocent Lady as he was ordered by the king (I know she was a wolf, but still).

So no, Theon Greyjoy hostage of Ned Stark did not see the man as his father.

He saw Balon Greyjoy as his father, may he be a terrible father but to Theon he was his father.

Honestly the only decent father role Theon has is Dagmer anyways. In this essay I will…

Totally agree that Theon wasn't treated like a foster kid, and lived with the traumatizing threat of getting murdered for shit he has no control over. Totally disagree that is in any way comparable to Sansa's treatment at Lannister hands. She was literally tortured in front of the court. Repeatedly. Theon's situation is more akin to Dany's child hostages.

I think you can generally compare anything, just how much of it is the same is different.

I was refearing to Cersei thinking that Sansa should be greatful of how Cersei treated her, not Joffrey who tortured her in front of the court, specifically Cersei who was horrible to Sansa on a psychological level but from an outside perspective did everything a person in her position (aka feed her, cloth her etc.) should have done.

That Joffrey tortured Sansa is not acceptable even by Westerosi standarts.

I actually think that Cersei and Ned / Sansa and Theons position as a hostage is quiet comparable, but in the way that Ned handles it a lot more professionally and might I say better.

They both get all they need on a physical level, they spend time with their prisoners children and even come to like them to some degree (apart from Joffrey and Jon), they get educated and spend their time going what other people in their class do.

These points are all met, but the execution itself is different and Ned and Cersei’s reactions to it are different for the person in danger that does not change their position of powerlessness at all, because it is out of their reach to do something about their position.

I agree that Theon’s position is more like Dany’s cupbearers, but Dany is shown to have zero interest in killing them, wheras Robert would have definitly ordered Theon’s execution. But in terms of position/naming it is more alike. Aka hostage becomes ward and hostage becomes cupbearer.

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Let’s be real here Balon (no matter which one) doesn’t even care enough about Theon to order that, but Theon doesn’t know that so I’ll give the character the benefit of the doubt.

I think we all Stockholm Syndrom Game of Thrones. We know it is not nearly as good as it could have been and it got worse after season 5 until the worst came so hard even casual watchers hated it by season 8.

But at core it brought a lot of us into this wonderful story that is based on an incredible book series, which a lot better worldbuilding, dialog and characters, but at least me, but I am sure others too got into it because of the series.

it took us captive and we can’t shake the good things it brought us, so we’re stuck in knowing how much more the characters and the world are in the books, but still have some love for the show that brought us into the washed up version of this world with it’s interesting story, that in the beginning was at core still the same that it was in the books.

Your post about Theon's Position in Winterfell was absolutely brilliant and I couldn't agree more. But what do you think is the reason for this misconception by so many fans. The books make it very clear. And if I remember correctly there where 3 dialogs just in season one about Theon position as an hostage. And credit where credit is due, I think those where quite good. So it really confuses me why so many fans (especially show fans) seem to misunderstand Theon's situation.

Well there is a scene with Ramsay in season 3 episode 4 where Theon literally sais "My real father lost his head at king's landing.", which tells us 2 things.

1. The showrunners have no idea about Theon Greyjoy and Ned Stark.

2. The showrunners also have no idea that being a hostage for 10 years does psychological damage to you.

I could make a really long list of characters they screwed up by just leaving so much out that the only thing left about them is the shell of their plot without having their core character traits even being there anymore, but in this case it shows so well.

Why would someone say that the man who held them prisoner for a decade is their “real father”? I get it, Ned is a great and interesting character but that doesn’t make him the best person in the world but as the seasons went on, the showrunners decided that whenever someone talked about him he became better person by modern standarts, instead of a decent person by Westeros standarts.

They  changed pretty much everything about the conversation he had with Arya in season 1, when Arya talked about it in season 8 (aka Ned is now pro Arya taking on “masculin traits” for some reason).

And that season 3 scene just shows that really well. There’s a lot more where they screwed Theon up, but at least we had the fantastic Alfie Allen playing him to make up for that.