I Am Very Glad GRRM Decided To Give Theon PTSD Pre Ramsay. The Fact That Theon Gets PTSD In The Middle
I am very glad GRRM decided to give Theon PTSD pre Ramsay. The fact that Theon gets PTSD in the middle of the war, because he has a break is showing that GRRM has an understanding of both PTSD and that torture doesn’t make you a better person or whatever D&D were going for. Theon developed PTSD during a break in war for him, he started his nightmares about dead people which is something that can totally happen to any person that is coming out of the adrenalin rush of survival (of any sort, but in this case war). The other thing is, Theon subcotiously started to regret his actions, deciding against Robb, letting bad come to the smallfolk of Winterfell, that were in no way at fault for his hostage status and the killing of the miller’s boys, as much as he tries to tell himself that they were JUST the miller’s boys and therefore for war purposes not important. But something in him knows that this is bs, that is is wrong to kill these innocent children and all of that triggers his PTSD way before Ramsay starts torturing him. The way it’s done in GoT shows Theon showing regret and remorse after he gets tortured, wich implys that his change in character comes from said torture whereas book!Theon has this point way before. And that is way better. Being a victim does not make you stronger or a better character. Reflecting on your actions and knowing they were bad does. Torture will just screw your brain up, it will not make you a better person, it will just fuck you up. But apperrently D&D think differently- The same thing happend to Jamie aswell, just saying.
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Hi, I was wondering if you have any Theon featuring fic recs?
I don’t have an official recommendation list, because 1. I don’t know how to make one and 2. on ao3 my storylist of Theon fanfiction is 24 pages long and holds 473 fanfiction pieces. But if you are looking for specific pairings or types (explics, modern day au, no pairing, etc.) I could definitly recommend some. I have my personal tag system to find the storys that I love and re-read the most on ao3 and making a list would go on forever BUT a lot of my all time favourites are from -TotemundTabu (sadly deleted most of their works, and most of my facourites aswell) -emmanliza -callmejude -youremyqueen -VagrantWriter -janie_tangerine and of course -theonsfavouritetoy if you have more specific requests let me know =)
First of all, thank you for quoting the important parts here, I only have the german edition (which has some weird translated names for some reason and is double as long) and it would take me forever to find the right translation. But in general the fact that Theon carries Ice is so screwed up, whenever I think about it, it makes me sick that this poor 19 year old has to carry the sword that might behead him to the man that might behead him, to actually execute someone. I don’t think that it’s unusual for a ward to do, but it is so fucked up for a hostage to be put in this situation. We don’t have Ned’s POV here, but he’s unsually not that unsensible that he would completly oversee this.
But I don’t think that Theon contiously puts on a smile, I think it’s a subcontious coping mechanism, that he’s not aware of why he’d doing it. But Jon is definitly not at the character point where he would recognize that. Bran does see something about Theon’s behaviour, especially in the later chapters with them, but he’s too young to understand it. But Theon is definitly old enought to understand what the whole execution means and what he’s being remindede of. As if he could do anything about it.
I love Theon being included in fanarts and storys with the Stark family as much an anybody. Just the way Robb would have wanted it.
But the next person that says that the show did Theon and Ned’s relationship better by saying that Ned was like a father to Theon is going to hear from me.
He was a HOSTAGE!
You can call him his ward all you want. BookTheon said himself that Ned was not a father to him, the few times he acted fatherly towards him, Theon thought of it as worse, because they both (unlike the rest of the Stark family, minus Cat it seems) had a really good understanding of what Theons position in Winterfell meant.
I like Ned but he was never Theon’s father. And as much as a dick Balon was he was Theon’s father. He neglected him and did not give a fuck and saw him as nothing but a dissapointment (like every other familymember that isn’t Asha) but for Theon he was his father.
And Ned treated Theon like you are supposed to treat a highborn hostage. Maybe he let Robb spend too much friend time with Theon, but that’s about it. Everything else (education, good food, rich clothing) is normal hostage treatment we see in Sansa and Cersei just as much.
Don’t get me wrong, Ned is no Cersei, he is never shown to think that Theon owns him anything (even if they didn’t have scenes together, I don’t think Ned is that delusional), whereas Cersei thinks Sansa should be greatful.
But noone sais Sansa sees Cersei as her mother or that she should be greatful for the Lannisters treatment, but Theon should be? Just because the Starks are generally better people than Cersei and Joffrey? No.
Theon was as much a hostage as Sansa was, just for much longer and it did some psychological damage to him that can’t be undone.
Is this Ned’s fault? Also no. Ned didn’t take Theon hostage because he wanted to, it was an outcome from a war Theon was not responsible in any way of. Theon is innocent of his situation as a hostage to the Starks.
And Ned treats him as a highborn hostage. He raises him, feeds him, trains him and would most likely execute him if neccessairy. Would he like it -definitly no, but Ned killed innocent Lady as he was ordered by the king (I know she was a wolf, but still).
So no, Theon Greyjoy hostage of Ned Stark did not see the man as his father.
He saw Balon Greyjoy as his father, may he be a terrible father but to Theon he was his father.
Honestly the only decent father role Theon has is Dagmer anyways. In this essay I will…
On Love, Simon
Okay so Love Simon is one of many LGBTQ+ movies I have seen and I can honestly say it wasn’t my taste.
But seeing so many people react with so much happyness and especially young people having a mainstream movie to look at is wonderful.
When I was a teen you had to go and really search for happy LGBTQ+ movies, only Brokeback Mountain was widespread and it doesn’t have a happy ending.
So many LGBTQ+ movies don’t end happyly and you know what it’s amazing to see one that is so popular and spreading and getting seen by teenagers, instead of the many unhappy ones.
Don’t get me wrong there are amazing movies out there that do not feature a happy end and bad ones who do, but growing up I had to search really hard to find something happy (give me all the hurt, as long as there is comfort) and it’s just wonderful to see that that has changes.
So manybe I didn’t like Love, Simon, maybe I thought of all the movies I watched that were way better and did something better than this movie.
But fuck it, I love what this movie does to people and it makes me super happy that people are getting joy out of it. That people are getting more open, that a movie like this exists for teens to just watch and see that maybe the world won#t be all that bad in the end. Screw everything I love how many people this movie made happy!
So I haven’t watched Supernatural since like season 11 and I never paid attention to what the actors were doing in their private life (because I have better things to do, I got my own problems I don’t need to see actors making comments the internet will interpret in 500 different ways).
But since the whole Destiel thing came up and I watched the scene and came up with the comments I became curious.
Are people saving
-Dean is homophobic because of the general scenes he had -Dean is homophobis because of the love reveal scene -Jensen Ackles homophobic because of his acting in the scene -Jensen Ackles homophobic because of something he said/did before this -are the showwriters generally homophobic because Destiel is only now canon -are the showwriter homophobic because they made the sense the way it was -are the showwriter generally homophobic because they said somthing before this (other than queerbaiting) ? Does somebody has answers for me?
Since Elliot Page just came out I started to experiece something I call “I am cool with it, but my brain hates change” again.
And it is very annoying. I have no issue with anybody coming out, transitioning, cutting their hair, choosing certain clothes, switching jobs or follwing religions, but my brain take forever to wrap aroung the fact that there is now new information about this person.
It’s like a library where every book is under a certain file and now it has to be moved into a different section and the system has to be updated that it is now there. And once all of that is done you don’t even notice anymore that it used to be somewhere else. And then one day another book has to be moved and it’s starting again. It was the same when a school friend of mine cut her hair short, it was the same when I found out that one of my coworkers told me he felt god and it was the same when a former friend of mine had his coming out to me. Everbody thinks I react weird or bad, when i am just still in processing mode. This is also why I am not great in fast situations in general. Give me a couple days time and I will get through anything that comes up with a solution and 5 backup solutions if the first one doesn’t work out but ask me for something right now and you will get nothing out of me.
Anybody else experience this “I am cool with it, but my brain hates change” feeling that information feels like it takes to long to process that it does for other people that can just say cool and move on instead of replaying the information in their head for a couple days until it is filed up/ changed to true/ clicked in?
But anyways good for Elliot Page, congrats, I will process this information in about a week because I am sick, so everything takes even longer than usual.